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Pleasanton Planning Commission meets at 7 p.m. tonight on proposal for new 7-Eleven store at Santa Rita/West Las Positas

Original post made on Sep 23, 2013

The Pleasanton Planning Commission will hold an informal public meeting tonight to consider a proposal to add a 7-Eleven store at a Valero service station at West Las Positas and Santa Rita Road.

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Posted by bella
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 23, 2013 at 8:16 am

Let's review. The chinese restaurant next to Valero has been robbed twice with the assailant using a gun. The other 7-11 on Valley has been robbed several times. And this proposed liquor store is near an elementary school and directly across the street from residences.Not to mention selling gas and alcohol right next to each other. I think a bad idea every which way I look at it.

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Posted by Petra
a resident of West of Foothill
on Sep 23, 2013 at 9:54 am

My husband and I own a business on Santa Rita Rd (between Los Positas & Valley) and we have been burglarized once and on a separate occasion been defrauded with counterfeit travelers checks. The investigation (if there ever was one) for the burglary never led to the perp. The area where they propose to build this new 7-11 is already a 'sweet spot' for crime since it is easily accessible by freeway and along a corridor that is pretty much deserted at night since there are many businesses with homes along the side streets that lead to the main streets. No doubt if you're going to commit a crime, you need easy freeway access, a gas station, a 24-hr convenience store, and a business district that is closed after 10pm - all the elements that will surely be desirable to someone with bad intentions. Also, something else to check about, I believe a senior housing development is being built near the area and I would be concerned for the senior as they make defenseless prey to criminals. Come on Pleasanton, do we really need to lure further bad element to our town? They see us as a community of 'haves' and the have-nots have no problem justifying what they do. We are between two areas in the East Bay, on the West and East of Pleasanton over the Dublin Grade and over Altamont where I am willing to bet much of the crime comes from, including local. My two cents. I'm sick of 'Main St" being so coddled and zoned and patrolled and the rest of Pleasanton takes the brunt of lack of patrolling and willingness to add yet another unsavory, e.g. 24 hour liquor store. I guess the tax dollars in this regard are too good to overlook, hey?

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 23, 2013 at 10:01 am

I don't believe that anybody is ever completely safe.

If you don't want to get caught in a cross-fire, don't shop there.

Americans are at risk where ever there is a business and money is available for criminals to steal and harm innocent citizens.

Be wary. Criminals do care if they harm you and your families.

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Posted by Huh
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 23, 2013 at 2:42 pm

people actually still use travelers checks much less accept them? that would be my first clue - sumting wong

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 23, 2013 at 3:14 pm

Criminals don't care about harming anybody. You, members of your family, and don't seem to mind if they are also at risk of loosing their own lives.

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Posted by Lessismore
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Sep 23, 2013 at 4:00 pm

Just maybe many of you should learn to read or read the story.

They are NOT asking to build liquor store? They request a licence to sell liquor in the 7-11 beer and wine like many other package stores.

Not building because you could get robbed.
Maybe we should quit driving because we could have and accident.

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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Sep 23, 2013 at 5:09 pm

Lessismore wrote: "Just maybe many of you should learn to read or read the story. They are NOT asking to build liquor store? They request a licence to sell liquor in the 7-11 beer and wine like many other package stores."

No, they're not just asking for a liquor license. They're asking for a zoning change (and, if approved, then they'll presumably ask for a liquor license).

Given the fact that this area of Pleasanton has had more than its share of crime problems, I don't see any reason to change its zoning to one that has a more relaxed attitude towards liquor sales.

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Posted by Beverly
a resident of Foothill High School
on Sep 23, 2013 at 11:06 pm

I know, maybe the could add seven stories with 42 units of affordable housing/high density apartments on top of the 7-11. Welcome to South Dublin.

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Posted by William Tell
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 24, 2013 at 8:53 am

Hopefully they will sell "blunts" and "40's" of Olde English so that gang members can have one-stop robbing.

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Posted by Sandra
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 24, 2013 at 9:20 am

WTF are they thinking? That whole area is being downgraded and it will be a magnet for crime. Does anybody know who we can write to? The city council members are clueless and I bet they don't even live in the surrounding neighborhoods.

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Posted by Lee
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Sep 24, 2013 at 9:32 am

We live close to this gas station, and I can see that we need another car wash on this side of town, but to sell liquor? Near an elementary school? No. I can go for a bigger snack shop as well.

I vote no on selling liquor at this location. Too close to the school and residences right behind the gas station.

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Posted by Rafael
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 24, 2013 at 1:57 pm

Come on, give them the 7-11 and the liquor license. That will attract hookers, and that would be far out. There can never been too many hookers.

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Posted by Protect Pleasanton
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 24, 2013 at 2:20 pm

While we are at it, lets shut down the existing 711s. This is our right, as Pleasantonians. While we are at it, lets shut down Kavanaugh and Perry's too, it is time to bring back prohibition, for the good of women and children!

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Posted by Local
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 24, 2013 at 3:14 pm

I'm an open free market type, but in this case that location is much too close to the elementary school, and will be having much FOOT traffic. It's all a bad mix, Driving teens quick in and out thru parking lot and out exits, right beside clueless tweeners, talking & texting....getting HIT in 'exit' driveways, even without/ before drinking. Just too handy.

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Posted by Jeffrey
a resident of Fairlands Elementary School
on Sep 25, 2013 at 9:32 am

I live one block away from this intersection and agree with Bella...there was JUST a robbery at a 24 hour 7-eleven 3 blocks away!!

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Posted by Avoid the commute
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 25, 2013 at 11:44 am

Oakland is already zoned for liquor stores, robberies, and worse.
Hoods: Save time and gas, and do it at home.
Also here in Pleasanton, the police will work to catch the bad guys!

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Posted by John
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 25, 2013 at 3:57 pm

I don't think the fact that it is a 7-11 necessarily invites crime, though the cheap 24-hour chain store image does give us all that impression, doesn't it? Pleasanton and other towns around here sure could use some quality 24-hour establishments. Aside from Safeway, 7-11 and Denny's, we've got Donut Wheel in Livermore. I certainly agree that more corporate chains are not the way we want to go, however. And 7-11 seems to be growing a lot lately, but not in Pleasanton. We've got just 2 right now (Hopyard Rd., and Valley at Santa Rita). Dublin has a couple, of course. The problem is that higher-quality businesses are not filling the void. The Wal-Mart market is right there, too, isn't it? I suppose if I really strongly opposed it, I would show up at the town meeting...

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Posted by Michael Grossman
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 25, 2013 at 7:26 pm

I live in the Gates. Pleasanton Weekly doesn't recognize this as a community on their website, although they were asked to include it before Walmart was built. I live within walking distance of Walmart -Valero shopping center.
In the same shopping center is Walmart selling Liquor and Beer.
There is no need for another Liquor and Beer store in the same shopping center.
There is a difference in the type of people who buy Liquor and Beer from a grocery store to take home and ones who buy it at a gas station to drink on premise, in the lot, in their car, fleeing from police after robbing the 7-11 and gas station.
This area is a sweet spot for robberies, due to its proximity to major streets, and Hwy 580, its proximity to the arroyo, and Bart where burglaries and robberies of businesses and residences are trending upward. It is also a sweet spot for a gathering place for undesirables and the criminal element.
Also trending upward are homeless people in the area.
My wife is already afraid to go out at night due to her fear of being assaulted, robbed or her car broken into, or car jacked.
We need a safe city. not one that is trending to be unsafe to its citizens.
How many of you on the Council have walked from Walmart to Valero or vice versa?
You will have increased car traffic and people traffic at Santa Rita and W. Las Positas when the Stoneridge street plan is complete. Just like when the sea rises , all ships rise, the increases in car traffic and people traffic will increase all crime in the area, especially due to liquor and beer sales.
Please look at Oakland, Richmond, San Leandro, and all the stories in the papers almost each day when someone is shot/killed in front of a liquor store. Some of these humans killed are innocents, such as babies and children.

Please nip it in the bud, don't change the zoning, and don't allow liquor or beer for Valero.

The community should get together to stop this before we have home invasions. Just look what happened to the 51 old Mr. David Lamont, husband and father of two teenage girls, attacked outside his home on Middleton Place, a cul-de-sac where neighbors said teens occasionally park at night. The end of his cul-de-saic used frequently as a gathering spot for rowdy teenagers. Mr. Lamont came out to ask the boys to calm down and be quieter. THEY BEAT HIM TO A PULP AND LEFT HIM IN A COMA, just short of death.

Just keep putting Liquor and Beer stores within short walking distance of each other and have them within the same shopping centers to have competition lower the price, and soon we will have the honor of being the home invasion, robbery, burglary, assault, car jacking and homicide capital of the United States.

City Council and community wake up. It could be one of your driving teenagers who go to the Valero Gas station for gas and never come home.

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Posted by Gates neighbor
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Sep 26, 2013 at 6:54 am

I agree with Mr. Grossman's points. It is difficult enough to walk or bike safely along Santa Rita as it is today. There should be a greater emphasis on safety for the school children who attend Fairlands Elementary through keeping alcohol sales away from that corner.

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Posted by Jerry
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm

Disagree with all of you. The 7-11 on Valley/Santa Rita is a block away from Harvest Park. No complaints from anyone on this thread about that. What difference does it make if its close to a school anyway? Is 7-11 notorious for selling beer to 7 year old 2nd graders? And the comment by Mr. Grossman that the people who buy liquor in grocery stores only bring it home while if you buy it at a convenience store you drink and drive or drink it in the parking lot on premises is the funniest most absurd comment I have ever read. Apparently Mr. Grossman is to 'good' to go into a convenience store. And his wife won't leave the house at night for what reasons? My gosh, do you have iron bars over all the doors and windows on your 'Gates' neighborhood house? Pleasanton residents need to quit being so elitist.

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Posted by Michael
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 28, 2013 at 10:01 pm

Neighborhood - GATES. Today's Pleasanton Weekly 9=27-13, has a police article of interest. The front door of the Valero Gas Station on Santa Rita Road was smashed in a Sept. 19, commercial robbery that netted 20 cartons of cigarettes, worth an estimated $1,000 and $500.00 in cash. It occurred between 1:19 and 1:35 am. A period of 16 minutes before it was noticed. I doesn't say anything about suspects, witnesses, persons of interest,or same MO as other burglaries.
Go ahead and add a liquor and beer store and see what happens.
Isn't Valero a good neighbor? Maybe they can hand out free cigarettes and cash and if they get the liquor license, free booze, so criminals don't have to burglarize them. - BUT what about the surrounding area???

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Posted by Michael
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 28, 2013 at 10:44 pm

Jerry, How close is the 7-11 and your home to the escape route of 580.
Was your 7-11 burglarized as was the Valero on Sept. 19? $500.00 cash, merchandise worth $1000.00, and $500.00 in damages, all within 16 minutes or less. Which restaurant close to your home was robbed at gunpoint recently, as was the Golden Chopsticks, in the same shopping center.
If you have children, are you concerned about their safety from drunk drivers? People work different shifts,and those that work the night shift may go for a drink after work about the same time children are walking or riding their bikes to school. There is nothing wrong with a night shift worker going for a drink, but, there are always exceptions and they are the people who drive while drunk, at any time.

Since you live close to a 7-11 and have no complaints about it being near Harvest Park school, why do you care about a 7-11 with a liquor store and beer that is not in your neighborhood or close to your home?
Is your higher priced neighborhood so safe that you leave the doors to your home unlocked when you are home and when no one is home and leave your car in the driveway with the key in it?
For years the Birdland properties have sold at a higher price than the Gates properties. Does that make you elitist?

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Posted by Mary
a resident of West of Foothill
on Oct 14, 2013 at 3:01 pm

I'm not sure why everyone is running around like their hair is on fire about the 24 hr store hours. Isn't the store already open from 5 am - midnight? Wouldn't keeping it open, staffed, for an additional 5 hours be safer?
I really think Santa Rita Square needs an facelift and converting the current station into a 7-11 could really help.

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Posted by Map
a resident of Del Prado
on Oct 14, 2013 at 5:33 pm

"Mary" said building this 7-11 could help??? Help who?? Might as well paint a giant target on that end of town, put up some of those search lights, and hold a giant open house for the "bad" guys!! Then again if they are busy plundering there maybe they will stay away from my end of town. Forget the shopping center facelift, with a massage parlor a mini Walmart and that 7-11 coming it would be a waste of money, they already have one foot in the grave!!

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Posted by Mary
a resident of West of Foothill
on Oct 15, 2013 at 11:54 pm

Map, not sure why you put my name in quotations, but cute. Thanks. I grew up in Pleasanton; I went to Lydiksen, Harvest Park (when there was only one middle school in Pleasanton) and Foothill High. I remember when Santa Rita Square housed Major Video and it was a busy shopping center. Now, not so much. I think everyone is forgetting that the store is across the street from a Hospital and a Fire Station (and some section 8 housing, but whatever) so it is pretty darn safe. I have seen Plesanton change a lot in my years. A lot. Do I think putting a well lit, clean, store in this location is going going to bring in all the gangs and crime and ruckus everyone thought BART was going to do 10 years ago? No. Do I think putting a clean, well lit store in this location would help revitalize a shopping center that needs it. Yes.