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Pleasanton Council chambers jammed Tuesday night for Measure PP vote; delayed 2 weeks because of school holiday

Original post made on Apr 3, 2013

More than 100 filled the Pleasanton City Council chambers Tuesday night for a scheduled public hearing and then a final vote on making the five-year-old Measure PP a part of the city's General Plan.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 10:10 AM

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Posted by Lynn
a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Apr 3, 2013 at 10:40 am

Kay Ayala never mentioned to me when I signed the initiative at Safeway that roads were *not* included. She followed me to my car and even mentioned the road on top of Oak Grove at the beginning of the conversation where she had me sign it.

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Posted by poonam
a resident of Foothill High School
on Apr 4, 2013 at 8:56 am

the point of measure PP was to protect the hills
and save the scenery for our views , if a road gets
built then PP didn't accomplish its job of preserving the

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Posted by Road or structure?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 4, 2013 at 9:03 am

Poonam- how is a road going down a mostly flat region within a valley area, in any possible, reducing RIDGELINE protection? That area at the end of Sunset Creek is not a ridge, it is a Valley and PP is not a Valley protection initiate.

Is it possible you and your neighbors don't want traffic from Lund Ranch II, and that is the whole basis for this claim- traffic?

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Posted by NoSuchThingAs25pctRoad
a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Apr 4, 2013 at 3:07 pm

The steepest grade normally allowed for a road is 6%. If you have ever driven on one of these 6% grade roads, you will realize that a road built on a 25% grade is just nonsense. Very few vehicles would even be able to climb a road of that steepness.

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Posted by Lynn
a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Apr 4, 2013 at 3:48 pm

Does Ayala want to be mayor again? I looked on Yahoo and the developer of Lund Ranch II (plans for something called a Planned Unit Development are posted here Web Link) submitted a plan to have the development road come in from somewhere called Lund Ranch Road.

However I've heard that Ayala wants the developer to revise their plans and wants the road to come in from near the steeply sloping side near the name called "Spotorno." That way the road has to go up and down steep hills through a ravine that will cause a creek to be filled in or else the developer to have to build a bridge. If it has to do that, the governments that do those kinds of permits like the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers and such will never allow those permits to be issued.

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Posted by franco
a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Apr 6, 2013 at 1:11 pm

franco is a registered user.

The author appears to miss-interpret by writing:
"These include how to measure the 25% slopes, starting with the top of the chimney of a proposed hillside home to a base some distance away, or from the proposed home's construction pad, which could be a much as 33 feet lower". This point regards the "100 feet within a ridgeline" restriction. Since only the 25% slope restriction is written about some posters seem to not realize if a road is not a structure, then roads can be built on the ridgeline, as well as cut into the side of a 25% slope. Roads never go directly upslope so they can be designed to acceptable grades yet cut into steep slopes.

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