I have to say, I watched this presentation, and Ms. Shipman is one consultant who is clearly worth her salt. She held her ground and pushed back against CM Testa's standard anti-housing tropes. She also made it clear that Pleasanton is falling behind in competitiveness because of its lack of housing for workers. Moreover, she emphasized, multiple times, that one of Pleasanton's struggles in this arena is due to the City's grossly understaffed Economic Development Department. I believe she mentioned that Pleasanton has something like 25% of the staff in that department compared to other cities of similar size. If that's the case, is it any wonder why there are so many vacant retail and commercial spaces around town? Ms. Shipman is worth every penny. Good investment, and kudos to whoever on the City staff established that relationship.