Bye bye swalwell
failure as congressman
failure as presidential candidate 0%
failure at collusion
failure at obstruction
failure at impeachment
failure on Intl Committee
failure at improving your district and your lives
District wake up, make sure he is a
FAILURE AT RE-ELECTION

"...Donald Trump failed to act in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic."

First the dems. called him a racist when he stopped flights from China and now he didn't act fast enough. Pelosi marched around Chinatown in SF urging everyone to patronize the restaurants for Chinese New Year and now he didn't act fast enough. The dems. held debates on national tv and never once mentioned the virus and now he didn't act fast enough. And the lies just go on and on and on.... It is not time to walk away from the democrats and their communist agenda. The time has come to RUN as fast as you can.

Yes, because we need MORE DEMOCRATS!! <---sarcasm

Dan

@Olorin wrote “ First the dems. called him a racist when he stopped flights from China....”

Wow. You went off the rails with your very first sentence. No, Trump never stopped flights from China. Trump imposed travel restrictions, but there was never a ban or stoppage of direct flights from China. About 40,000 people traveled from China to the US on direct flights even after Trump’s so-called “ban”.

"About 40,000 people traveled from China to the US on direct flights even after Trump’s so-called “ban”."

These were American citizens and green card holders.

You know this but you refuse to acknowledge it in your response. The only I can think of why is because you are a disingenuous hack.

Dan

@DKHSK wrote "These were American citizens and green card holders."

Yeah, very good Dan. That's why I wrote that Trump imposed "travel restrictions" and not a travel or flight "ban" - and that's why we both agree that 'Olorin' was totally wrong in stating that Trump "stopped flights from China".

Oh, and BTW, coronavirus couldn't care less about the nationality of the people it's infecting. Those 40,000 Americans and green card holders who took direct flights from China into the US even after Trump's declaration of a travel restriction policy continued to bring more and more coronavirus into this country. So what did Trump accomplish with his travel restriction policy? Answer: Nothing.

Always fun to discuss current events with you, Dan. Have a good evening.

Oh for crying out aloud, wombat.

Trump can't ban citizens from coming back into the country, but he can BAN citizens from OTHER COUNTRIES, which is what he did, and rightfully so.

That you want to parse restrictions vs bans tells me that you're just conflating the issue to be a pain.

Grow up, dude. Not everything has to be an argument because you don't like a word.

Dan

I see that Eric Swalwell has found another “Russia, Russia, Russia” to hang his lies on. Amazing that this kid has difficulty doing anything right ethically. It’s hard to believe that he was once a prosecutor, perhaps the Public Defenders Office should re-examine his cases due to ethics violations- knowingly purporting a fabrication to the American people for over three and a half years.

Come on Democrats, surely you have somebody else in your back pocket better than Eric?

@DKHSK wrote “That you want to parse restrictions vs bans tells me that you're just conflating the issue to be a pain. Grow up, dude. Not everything has to be an argument because you don't like a word.“

LOL! You’re hilarious, Dan! The difference between “travel restrictions” and flight “ban” here is the difference between 40,000 people flying directly from China to the US compared to ZERO people directly flying from China to the US!

The difference between you and Trump is that Trump is at least savvy enough to know when to cut his losses when he realizes that he’s making a fool out of himself.

Seems like Swalwell is trying to influence the outcome of other states elections.....which he has no business in doing.

How about representing our district vs a perpetual witch hunt. And if you are going to pursue a witch hunt, bring back a witch. This guy is a complete embarrassment and failure.

Katherine Baker - please please please run against him.

Go Trump 2020! It's time to remove the Democrats from anything to do with running this Country!

@Willy

Uh....right. Go Trump!

"As president’s coronavirus approval drops, Biden’s lead over Trump grows: poll" - Fox News, 5/21/20

"A new national survey indicates flagging support for the job President Trump is doing combating the coronavirus pandemic."

"And a Quinnipiac University Poll released Wednesday also suggests that presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s lead over Trump in the November general election showdown has increased to 11 points. The former vice president tops the GOP incumbent in the White House by a 50-39 percent margin among registered voters nationwide, according to the survey."

Wombat--are these the same polls that had Hillary winning BIG TIME?

@AyeAye

What, you Trump supporters are back to not believing in polls again today? Gee, I wonder why?

Wombat...Look at the DETAILS of these polls, the questions asked and the form of the questions, and the which groups of people actually asked..That might affect believably/

Biden chances of winning?? HA HA

Mr. Swalwell -

Despite the belief of rabid minority that is vastly over-represented in internet forums, you are doing tremendous work for the country and your district (as demonstrated by your 42 point margin over your last opponent). Keep it up!

- The quiet majority

“More than 90,000 Americans have died so far because Donald Trump failed to act in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Eric, you are such a foolish person. You don't know how to speak unless you use talking points. Points that don't have to be true, but you know if you say them long enough, some will believe you.

Yeah...Its all Trump's fault. For once, try looking at your party. Talk about New York and Pennsylvania and how they FAILED the seniors in their state. Look where the majority of deaths came from. Trump did not tell these Governors and mayors to put Covid patients back into their nursing homes. YOUR party leaders did.

Explain why the states that immediately cared for their seniors have so many fewer deaths. Oh yeah, that would mean talking well about another party - can't do that. Can't reach across the aisle. Geesh.

You don't seem to want to hold anyone accountable but Trump. Look Within First. Clean your own 'house' and do what is really right for our country. And we certainly don't need another PAC!! Your need for constant attention scares me.

I am truly troubled that you are our representative. And, I will have to vote for someone else.

You know he is our representative to the federal government and has no control over how the state handles the epidemic, right? Feel free to be angry about how the state or county or feds reacted, but at least direct it at the right person, lol.

Ornithology, You are almost right. It wouldn’t have saved 90,000 lives, but it would have saved an estimated 36,000 lives if we had taken action just one week sooner. That blame can be spread over any and all with the power to have made that happen.

Trump's Report Card pretty much sums him up:

Tweeting Skills: A+
Hurling Personal Insults Skills: A+
Negotiating Skills: D
Attention Span: D-
Management Skills: F
Organizational Skills: F

urmomz,

If your last statement twas directed toward me, I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit...

Kathleen,

Yep....and if XYZ had happened we would all be (fill in the blank) .... People throw out so many 'facts' they loose sight of so much. Could Trump have acted a week earlier? Maybe. Its nice to have 20-20 hindsight. What could YOU have done differently in your life 1 WEEK EARLIER if you had 20-20 hindsight? But look at what was being said on the Dem side as well. What they were saying early on too! Come on....

My point IS that no one has the market on clairvoyance. Swalwell certainly did not, and I don't blame him for that. Re read my comments. The point is that Swalwell can not say anything good that Republicans have accomplished. Its not just a Covid issue.

He is NOT the person I want representing me, nor do I think he even tries too. He is as one sided a politician as there is. We have too many of them (both sides). I would prefer something different.

O, maybe? Trump was informed all the way in January at least. I said you could spread the blame. I also do not want Swalwell.

I’m always curious what these “moderate” voters that pine for a “middle of the road” candidate really want. The politics of this country have shifted dramatically to the right over the last 70 years. Our government is composed of the far right and the moderately right. Swalwell is pretty firmly in the moderate right. Where exactly is this middle of the road you’re looking for?

There is nothing moderate about Swalwell.

Swalwell is so far left, he lapped John Kerry.

Swalwell is Nancy Pelosi personal GO FOR.

Michael, if you really believe that, you need a history lesson and to travel the world a bit. Swalwell’s political positions would fit in quite cleanly with pre-Reagan conservatives and would be considered very conservative in pretty much any first world country outside the US.

Kathleen,

" but it would have saved an estimated 36,000 lives if we had taken action just one week sooner."

What exactly are you basing this on?

You do realize that when Trump started the US reaction, Democrats were calling him a racist, right?

To blame Trump for his response is to not understand what really happened.

Dan

urmomz:

Unfortunately, it is you who is misguided.

I traveled the world for thirty years, commuted between Tokyo, Beijing and Mountain view. Lived in Asia for fifteen years.

Your comment has President Reagan belching.

Dan, third time I’m saying spread the blame, red and blue, until it is purple. Columbia University analysis. Been in the news all day. Harvard, I guess they didn’t want to be left out, says the number is 54K if we acted two weeks sooner. I mean, we could say if this was predicted last October, no one would be dead. There are limits to how this gets reviewed.

Let's play name that historical republican president!

President number one:

*Advocated for racial equality

*Signed the civil rights act

*Created civil rights division at DOJ

*Enforced desegregation at schools with troops

*Encouraged and embraced scientific research

*Signed ANWR wildlife refuge bill

*Protected numerous other wildlife refuges

*Protected national parks and forests

*Opposed Israeli settlements in Palestine

*Encouraged mutual cooperation with foreign governments, rather than isolationism

*Encouraged free trade

*Encouraged lowering the voting age

*Protected minority voting rights

*Advocated for increased minimum wage

*Fought farm subsidies

*Advocated expanding social security

*Advocated interstate highway system

Who is that raging leftist?? Why it's historical republican president Dwight Eisenhower!


President Number 2:

*Frequently discussed the ridiculousness of trickle down economics

*Advocated raising minimum wages

*Fought against racial discrimination

*Endorsed the equal rights amendment

*Enforced anti-trust laws

*Fought against capital punishment

*Encouraged international cooperation rather than isolationism

*Encouraged free trade

*Fought for universal health care

*Integrated the armed forces

*Believed the government should assist with collective bargaining

*Encouraged expanding social security

That raging communist is none other than Harry Truman!


President number three:

*Opposed anti-abortion amendment

*Fought for black voting rights

*Required affirmative action for government contractors

*Encouraged treatment rather than punishment of drug offenders

*Established the EPA

*Nationwide clean water program

*Encouraged stricter gun laws

*Encouraged universal health care

That guy sounds like a real democRAT, must be Nixon!


Any modern politician that wants increased wages, universal health care, stricter gun laws, or expanded social security is immediately labeled as a communist by the right. This is the roots of the republican party! It is you who has lost their way!

Urmomz

Urcrazy. It’s a fact our government has move so far left there is no question.

Moderate - does not hold extreme views, whether a conservative or liberal. Does not vilify the people who hold different or opposite opinions from their own. Is willing to meet in the middle on issues and find a compromise that gives each side something they want. Realizes they can’t get everything they want.

Charlie -

See post above. The republican party historically supported things like increased minimum wages, racial equality, universal health care, EPA regulations, free trade, and stricter gun laws. These are now pillars of the slightly less conservative but still conservative democratic party. How exactly have we moved left??

As for compromise, here's how that has played out since Reagan -

Republicans: I want to eat babies.

Democrats: Eating babies is morally reprehensible. I will not support eating babies.

Republicans: Fine, we'll eat half babies.

Democrats: Eating babies is morally reprehensible. I will not support eating babies.

Republicans: WHY WON'T YOU COMPROMISE!?! MEET US IN THE MIDDLE OF BABY EATING YOU COMMUNISTS!!!

All I know is I am voting for Allison Hayden for Congress, not that dishonest socialist Swalwell....he is Swalwrong.

urmomz,

Congratulation urmomz!

You've just made the case that Republicans at the Presidential level have better track records in race relations than the Democrats!

WELL DONE!!!!

HAHAHAHAHA!

Dan

Kathleen,

"third time I’m saying spread the blame, red and blue, until it is purple."

Again, Trump was way ahead of the democrats when he decided to ban travel from China. He acted EARLIER than they did.

To say he didn't act early enough is to not understand that at the time, the US did not know what it was dealing with.

Heck, the CDC initially said that masks wouldn't do any good. And just yesterday, the CDC also said that the virus does not transfer easily from surfaces.

One last fact: when Dr. Fauci was asked about Trumps response to his recommendations, Fauci replied that every request and opinion was accepted by Trump "the first time" it was asked.

To say that blame goes all around is to not know what was done in the past. When brought the information, Trump made an affirmative decision on the spot.

What else could he have done? Make decisions before the information is presented?

Sheesh...

Dan

Historically, republicans absolutely had better race relations then democrats. Unfortunately, in the past 40 or so years, republicans have los their way on a number of issues, including race relations. Not sure why that’s surprising or funny.

@DKHSK wrote "Again, Trump was way ahead of the democrats when he decided to ban travel from China. He acted EARLIER than they did."

It wasn't a "travel ban", Dan. Remember? We discussed the matter thoroughly above right in this very thread. How could you forget so soon? To refresh your memory, about 40,000 people (!) took direct flights from China to the US after Trump announced what you so poorly characterize as his "travel ban".

Bottom line is that his action did NOTHING to prevent the direct flow of TENS OF THOUSANDS of people into this country from the country in which coronavirus originated.

"Historically, republicans absolutely had better race relations then democrats."

You think?

Look at the plight of african american families and what has happened since the Johnson (DEMOCRAT) Administration. In fact, the breakdown of the black family started with FDR and accelerated with LBJ.

All the democrats did for african americans was create a new kind of plantation. You've made them slaves to the welfare system.

This is a fact. Stop digging.

Dan

dan, you need a therapist.

"Despite the belief of rabid minority that is vastly over-represented in internet forums, you are doing tremendous work for the country and your district (as demonstrated by your 42 point margin over your last opponent). Keep it up!"


And the "tremendous work" that Swalwell has done would be...? Peddling Russian conspiracy theories and demanding gun confiscation for the law abiding? Little or no "work" is required for either.

Wow. Republicans here are criticizing Swalwell while at the same time they’re supporting Trump, a guy who has gone completely off his rocker? We are living in historical times here. The current President will WITHOUT DOUBT go down in history as the worst President In the history of the United States of America. You’re nitpicking Swalwell while supporting a President who is the laughing stock of the entire world.:

“Trump lashes out at scientists whose findings contradict him” - SF Gate, 5/22/20

“He offered similar pushback Thursday to a new study from Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health. It found that more than 61% of COVID-19 infections and 55% of reported deaths — nearly 36,000 people — could have been been prevented had social distancing measures been put in place one week sooner. Trump has repeatedly defended his administration's handling of the virus in the face of persistent criticism that he acted too slowly.
”Columbia's an institution that’s very liberal," Trump told reporters Thursday. "I think it’s just a political hit job, you want to know the truth.””

“Trump has long been skeptical of mainstream science — dismissing human-made climate change as a “hoax,” suggesting that noise from wind turbines causes cancer and claiming that exercise can deplete a body's finite amount of energy. It's part of a larger skepticism of expertise and backlash against “elites” that has become increasingly popular among Trump's conservative base.“

“But undermining Americans’ trust in the integrity and objectivity of scientists is especially dangerous during a pandemic when the public is relying on its leaders to develop policies based on the best available information, said Larry Gostin, a Georgetown University law professor who is an expert in public health. “If the president is politicizing science, if he’s discounting health experts, then the public is going to be fearful and confused," Gostin said, calling it “dismaying."”

SF Gate: Web Link
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The senate intelligence committee, comprised primarily of establishment republicans, unanimously confirmed that Putin and Russia actively interfered in the election to help trump get elected. Trump and his campaign were either a witting or unwitting participant in the scheme. This has all been overwhelmingly demonstrated. It’s as much a conspiracy theory as the sky being blue at this point.

The republican playbook is really getting tired...

Dan, here is article on the warnings to Trump. Web Link I don’t disagree Dems were apparently waiting on DC. Dems, however, did not stand up to the microphone and say “one case” we’ll be fine. It’s going to magically disappear—despite what he was told. Fauci—a man who is doing his best to stay in place—already openly threatened by the president—to protect us is not going to say much if anything to set off t(rump)antrums. I think you know all this, but you refuse to acknowledge the foibles.

"The politics of this country have shifted dramatically to the right over the last 70 years. Our government is composed of the far right and the moderately right. Swalwell is pretty firmly in the moderate right."


No, he is not. He votes with the left wing leadership of his party..every time. And you are pretty firmly fooling yourself if you think the leadership of the Democrat Party is "moderate". They ignore the limited government/personal freedoms model of the Constitution and want centralized, government control of just about everything and everyone.

Kathleen Ruegsegger wrote “Dan, here is article on the warnings to Trump” (“Trump was warned in January of Covid-19's devastating impact, memos reveal” -The Guardian)

Even Trump’s supporters know how intellectually lazy he is and how short of an attention span he has. He was the worst possible President to be in the White House when this virus hit. In typical fashion, Trump (and multiple Fox News personalities) called all the news about coronavirus a “hoax” when it first appeared.

Kathleen,

Read the article.

He was warned. Ok, got it.

Do we know that there was a specific ask for action in the written warnings, or were these updates apprising him of the goings on in China.

My point is, the warning he got had to be informational and not actionable. Hence my comment s from Fauci who actually indicated that Trump acted every time the recommendation was made.

Are you saying now that Trump should not have waited for his medical professionals to gather up information and inform him and instead, made up his own mind and "acted"?

Ha! I could see the headlines now: "Trump, Without Doctors Advice, Imposed Lockdowns In America Against Constitution

You RINOS and Democrat are so caught up in what he "says", you're completely blind to what he "does". Its so clear in all your writing that you don't like his words. Alright, fair point.

But in terms of his "actions" on this virus, nobody has reacted more decisively than Trump, even though he has time and again been given bad information from the medical professionals.

That's just a fact and no amount of hating will change that.

BTW, I was dealing with the effect of this virus WAY before anyone was even talking about it here in the States. I rely on a lot of Chinese suppliers for my company and the two-for of the Chinese New Year and virus devastated our manufacturing. We were dead in the water until March, when China slowly opened.

I'm determined to move our supply base out of there.

Thanks China.

Dan

“Trump lashes out at scientists whose findings contradict him”

Wombat, as an alleged "scientist" don't you know that "studies" are often times incorrect? Do you read every study and conclude that "the study must be right, because someone wrote it"?

Do you realize the article is an "opinion" piece and that people can disagree with studies for a whole host of reasons?

For instance, did you read ANY article that actually attempts to provide an opinion AGAINST these "studies"?
If not, why not?

I do, and I'll bet I can find an article that gives reasons why those studies are absurd.

Does cognitive dissonance mean ANYTHING to you?

Dan

"He was the worst possible President to be in the White House when this virus hit."

Yeah, Obama would have waited 6 months to declare a national emergency, just like he did with the last Pandemic.

Trump declared National Emergency in weeks.

But ok, "others" would have been SOOOOOO much better.

Only a "scientist" could say something so breathtakingly absent of logic.

Dan

@DKHSK wrote “Wombat, as an alleged "scientist" don't you know that "studies" are often times incorrect?“

Yes, scientific studies are often debated and criticized FOR SCIENTIFIC REASONS. Trump, on the other hand, is criticizing this particular study not for scientific reasons BUT FOR POLITICAL REASONS.

@DKHSK wrote “ Yeah, Obama would have waited 6 months to declare a national emergency, just like he did with the last Pandemic. Trump declared National Emergency in weeks.”

Wrong.

“Obama’s acting director of health and human services declared H1N1 a public health emergency on April 26, 2009.
That was when only 20 cases of H1N1 — and no deaths — around the country had been confirmed.”

And Trump declared a national emergency weeks later than he should have if he had been paying attention. Germany came out with COVID-19 testing almost two months (7 weeks) before the US under Trump did.

I very clearly wrote "NATIONAL EMERGENCY", yet you focussed in on "PUBLIC EMERGENCY".

If you had an ounce of honesty you'd admit to making an error, but you won't. You don't possess the character.

"Scientist" indeed.

Dan

@DKSHK wrote “ I very clearly wrote "NATIONAL EMERGENCY", yet you focussed in on "PUBLIC EMERGENCY".”

LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!

Dan, I believe you may be an intelligent being, whether we agree or not. Argue the facts; stop calling people RINOs. It undermines any point you’d like to make. The only person you debase is yourself. (Same goes for anyone else trying to be credible.)

I voted for Swalwell when he ran against Pete Stark because I wanted to get rid of Pete Stark, at the time I thought Stark was a complete useless representative.

As it turns out, Pete Stark was the lessor of two evils. Eric Swalwell is a complete MEGA useless representative.

Kathleen,

I'll make a deal with you: Instead of telling me that you don't like Trumps personality, tell me why you don't like any of the policies Trump has implemented.

Until we can talk about his actions instead of his words, I will continue to call people who SAY they are republicans, but somehow always vote for Democrats, RINOS.

Dan

Dan - you can’t separate the two. As president, he is a reflection of our people’s values. Regardless of how I feel about his policies (which I also disagree with), his conduct is an embarrassment to our country and, for the first time in my life, makes me ashamed to be American.

No amount of policy will ever justify elevating a person as ignorant, hateful, and immoral as trump to our highest office.

And dan, the fact that all you can do is try to deflect to policy you agree with and other candidates’ relatively (to trump) small shortcomings, makes me realize that deep down you know trump is unfit for the office.

Dan, I don’t always vote for democrats or republicans. I vote on the issues and how any particular office can impact those issues.

Trump has made the world a much more dangerous place in every policy where he has withdrawn the US or that he has disparaged. If you don’t follow any international coverage of any kind, you are not seeing what a laughing stock he is. We have been reduced as a nation to his game show . . . “You’re fired”. Ooooooo, I wonder who is next????

He is not on hydroxychloroquine. Those doctors are giving him placebos if they are giving him anything at all. He is, sadly, the president of a country that was once the leader of the world—the doctors would not risk his heart attack so he could “not give the media the satisfaction” of, well, whatever his latest nonsense is about.

Heck, just watch when he calls in on Fox. Those anchors are uncomfortable and twitching while he prattles on. “So, Mr. President, it’s Mother’s Day. What are you doing for Melania.” Followed by unintelligible ramblings about the military.

Let’s say he pulled off even one good idea. First, it wasn’t him. The power just trotS him out with his “magic” marker. None of it was not worth what he has cost us on the world stage.

"you can’t separate the two."

Yes I can, and I will continue to do so.

"As president, he is a reflection of our people’s values."

Coming from someone who said to me "dan, you need a therapist.", I don't think you're the exemplary person to be judging "values".

""Regardless of how I feel about his policies (which I also disagree with)"

Why do you disagree with them? Give me specific reasons why you disagree with his policies. Otherwise, its just the typical "orange man bad". So boring.

"his conduct is an embarrassment to our country and, for the first time in my life, makes me ashamed to be American."

I don't care what other nations think of our country. They depend on our money like the welfare queens they are. I've never been ashamed of being an American. I have nothing but contempt for those like you who use politics to explain why you hate the country. I hated Obama, but I never once was embarrassed for my country.

"No amount of policy will ever justify elevating a person as ignorant, hateful, and immoral as trump to our highest office."

I'm not even sure what this means. But if you can't seriously admit that before the Pandemic, the US was in a golden era that Trump facilitated, then 1.) you hadn't been paying attention or 2.) you're just a political hack that hates to be out of power.

Like I've said a million times. Put some earplugs in; keep an eye on your portfolio and enjoy the policies that Trump will implement in his next term. Arguing with me over his personality will be an exercise in futility. I just don't care.

Dan

"the fact that all you can do is try to deflect to policy you agree with and other candidates’ relatively (to trump) small shortcomings, makes me realize that deep down you know trump is unfit for the office."

LOL.

Let me restate what you just wrote: "the fact that his national economic and social policies & regulations, his foreign economic policies and non-interventionalism are successful, I'm going to stick my head in the sand and continue to call him a failure because Trump is a brazen, blustery, rude MEANY.

You are so boring, urmomz.

Dan

Amen, Dan...!

At least with Trump you know exactly what you are getting - he doesn’t hide his “offensive” New York personality.

As we are finding out more about what the Obama admin team and FBI, CIA and others all did due the there hatred of Trump, a bunch of sneaky, lying scumbag.

Add that to the lies of Schoff snd Swalwell and we should all be shocked snd appalled.

Anything goes in the war against Trump

Anybody who supports what has been going on in our government in this war are just as bad as what you say is wrong with Trump

You have all lost your way and you are going to have a hard time giving up all that hate and getting back to a good and balanced place.

Open your eyes - the Dems are just as bad, if not worse than Trump. You’ve been taken for a ride down the roadway of hate snd deceit and don’t even see what they’ve been doing to you

Kathleen,

"Dan, I don’t always vote for democrats or republicans. I vote on the issues and how any particular office can impact those issues."

Ok Kathleen. Tell me what, of the hundreds of policies (issues) that Trump has enacted, do you actually like?

Web Link

This is just a partial list up until 2018.

If you can't say you like any of these, then maybe, just maybe, you aren't a republican?

"Trump has made the world a much more dangerous place in every policy where he has withdrawn the US or that he has disparaged."

What is the citation for this? For example, we were told that Syria would be a blood bath with Turkey when we pulled our 100 troops from there and what is happening now? They had one skirmish than called a truce.

Give me other examples with your direct link to either a Trump policy or WORDS that Trump said that caused a more dangerous situation.

"If you don’t follow any international coverage of any kind, you are not seeing what a laughing stock he is"

Once again, we have another person who actually laments what other countries think of us. How terrible you must feel to have to beg for someone to like you. How much pressure do you feel to make sure others think you are sophisticated and genteel?

Here is the difference between you and me in this respect: I simply don't care what others (countries) think about ours, ESPECIALLY when we're paying the bills. This crosses-over to my relationships here in Town Square. I don't care what people think of my writing. I'm free to speak my mind because I have FREEWILL and most importantly, I have facts. I can simply just say what I feel and am unencumbered by how you or anybody else (except those who agree with me) feel about me. I simply don't care. We are not compatible, not in politics and not in temperament.

And you know what? THAT'S OK!

"He is not on hydroxychloroquine. Those doctors are giving him placebos if they are giving him anything at all"

Do you have the proof of this, or is it a conspiracy theory? I really want to know.

"Heck, just watch when he calls in on Fox. Those anchors are uncomfortable and twitching while he prattles on."

I don't watch Fox but I'm sure it was horrifying to watch journalists being uncomfortable. Let's impeach Trump!

"Let’s say he pulled off even one good idea. First, it wasn’t him. The power just trotS him out with his “magic” marker."

Oh no, here we go again. Everything that happens that is a success for Trump, its because someone else did it. I bet you think everything Obama did was saintly, or GW Bush. Was Lincoln a success? This is really tiring.

"None of it was not worth what he has cost us on the world stage."

What did it cost us, and how do you gauge this? I really want to know.

Dan

And as far as what other countries think of us - sure they aren’t happy because Trump has been calling them all for not paying their agreed to fair share.

The gravy train is over for them - I would be unhappy too.

Our country is trillions and trillions of dollars in debt - why should we borrow all this money to support countries that won’t even pay their fair share?

We can still be a world leading country - but do it without being taken advantage of by other countries. Maybe we’ll actually earn respect by standing up for ourselves and calling out these countries rather than trying to “buy” that respect.

Pete,

Thanks.

Karl,

Nobody even talks about the issues you brought up. The FISA stuff with the FBI is just the tip of the iceberg.

It was proven that Schiff lied outright to the American public when he said he had evidence and yet, when the transcripts were released a few weeks ago they proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was no proof of Russian collusion and that there was no reason for a special council.

Democrats and Republican BOTH knew the truth and outside of a small cadre of conservative republicans in the house, they all remained silent.

You wouldn't know it by looking at the mainstream media but here we are.

BTW, Richard Grennel is a rockstar.

Dan

Karl,

Preach it. I agree with everything you say.

Dan

If there was no reason for a special counsel, why did trump’s hand picked guy appoint one? And why did it result in 34 indictments, seven guilty pleas, and more money in fraudulent funds recovered than the investigation cost?

As for the claim of no evidence of Russian collusion, you really need to read Mueller’s (a life long republican, appointed by a lifelong republican, who was appointed by trump) report. There was TONS of evidence.

"If there was no reason for a special counsel, why did trump’s hand picked guy appoint one?"

If you don't know the answer to this, you haven't been paying any attention. It really isn't worth the time to explain it to you. The only thing I can tell you is to find at some independent/conservative sites or lawyers and read their legal analysis.

"And why did it result in 34 indictments, seven guilty pleas, and more money in fraudulent funds recovered than the investigation cost".

Praytell you tell us EXACTLY what these indictments and guilty pleas were for? I bet you don't even know.

I bet you won't do this. You have to pretend not to know anything. All liberals do so that they can lie with impunity. Sunlight is your worst enemy.

"you really need to read Mueller’s (a life long republican, appointed by a lifelong republican, who was appointed by trump) report. There was TONS of evidence."

Here genius. Directly quoted from the Mueller report:

“Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

This appears in the report’s introduction on page 2, buried as the final third of a 63-word sentence. Check it out for yourself.

You can either accept his conclusion, or you can go with his political statement in volume two of the report. I don't care.

Fact of the matter, in plain English, there was no collusion.

Take a bow, you've been served.

Dan

“ If you don't know the answer to this, you haven't been paying any attention. It really isn't worth the time to explain it to you. The only thing I can tell you is to find at some independent/conservative sites or lawyers and read their legal analysis.”

So you don’t have an answer. Got it.

“Praytell (sic) you tell us EXACTLY what these indictments and guilty pleas were for? I bet you don't even know. “

To start, numerous “conspiracy against the United States” charges. That’s a good start. Add plenty of obstruction of justice, a smattering of money laundering, a dash of making false statements to congress. Then there’s your run of the mill acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign power. Not to mention some witness tampering, identity fraud, computer fraud, bank fraud, and campaign finance violations (in which trump was an unindicted coconspirator due to DOJ policy of not prosecuting presidents).

Does that about sum it up? Not sure how that helps your case, but there you go.

Yes, Mueller could not prove sufficiently for criminal charging that there was a criminal conspiracy it work with the Russian government to subvert the us election. What they did prove convincingly is that trump and his campaign was coordinating with Russian spies ( Konstantin Kilimnik) and the Russian GRU through Wikileaks. Not to mention, the campaign manager being on the Russian payroll to promote Russian interests.

urmomz,

"Yes, Mueller could not prove..."

You made me read your entire screed only to find out that you actually agreed with me?!

Listen genius, I've given you every chance to have an intelligent conversation, but you're obviously writing to amuse yourself rather than having a debate about the subjects being discussed.

I'm done with you for now.

Sincerely,

Dan

No, I don’t agree with you. Trump and his campaign coordinated with the Russian government and GRU, as clearly laid out in the Mueller report. Mueller didn’t think he could prove a criminal conspiracy (different from coordination, for those with some critical thinking skills). Trump is as guilty as OJ.

If you’re good with campaigns coordinating with hostile foreign powers to undermine our elections, more power to you I guess.

And I’m not writing to amuse myself. I’m writing to counter the right wing brigade that is setting up shop here. I want to live in a modern democracy, not the backward theocracy you’re supporting.

urmomz, “I want to live in a modern democracy”. Very confusing...democrats used to be free thinkers...they say. Yet, if citizens are free to elect their own form of government, why is Swalwell leaving his district to run around our State campaigning for others...? Undermining elections...? When all his, regardless of parties, constituents require attention, credible representation, within his own district. How is that modern democracy...? Unless what you meant was lack of representation.

"Trump and his campaign coordinated with the Russian government and GRU, as clearly laid out in the Mueller report."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Make up your mind, urmomz!

So did Mueller prove it or not?


Don't make me post the specific people indicted and why. You'll just look stupid and come up with yet another stupid post.

Yawn....

Done.

Dan

List of Americas indicted per Mueller:

1. Paul Manafort: Sentenced to seven and a half years in prison for financial crimes
2. Michael Flynn: Pleaded guilty to lying to investigators
3. Rick Gates: Pleaded guilty to lying to investigators
4. Michael Cohen: Pleaded guilty to tax and bank charges, campaign finance violations and lying to Congress
5. George Papadopoulos: Served 12 days in prison for lying to investigators
6. Alex van der Zwaan: Served 30 days in prison for lying to investigators
7. Richard Pinedo: Sentenced to six months in prison for identity theft
8. Sam Patten: Pleaded guilty to failing to register as a foreign lobbyist
9. Bijan Kian and Skim Alptekin: Charged with conspiring to violate lobbying laws
10. Gregory Craig: Acquitted on charges of lying to authorities

Note: Not one of these guys had crimes that had anything to do with Russian "conspiracies". Not one of these guys committed a crime tied to Trump and your stupid allegations.

Now, I've shut the door. I'm truly done with you.

You're either too stupid or a political hack to admit you have no idea what you're talking about.

Dan

“ List of Americas indicted per Mueller:”

That’s a whole lot of lying to investigators about connections with Russia.

Why the need to lie??? Unless...

Where there’s smoke there’s fire.

@Ron G

Gee, Ron. I'm sure that all those Trump associates have a perfectly innocent explanation FOR WHY THEY CHOSE TO LIE TO THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ABOUT THEIR RUSSIA/UKRAINE CONNECTIONS AT THE RISK OF BEING CHARGED WITH FEDERAL FELONIES!!!

isn't that right, DKHSK?
:-)

Rick Gates:

"Gates knowingly lied when he told the special counsel that Manafort, after a March 2013 meeting with a lobbyist and a member of Congress, had said that Ukraine had not been mentioned in the meeting. Not only was that statement never made, the information says, but Gates himself helped prepare a report describing the discussions on Ukraine that had taken place at that meeting."

What? He lied because he knowing said that "ukraine was not mentioned in a meeting".

Hmmm...nothing about Russia.

Dan

ps, more to come...

Michael Cohen:

"Cohen’s lies are related to an aborted plan to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. He admitted in federal court in Manhattan to misleading Congress in written statements in August 2017 about the extent of Trump’s personal involvement in that project."

Oops...Russian "business, not russian collusion.

Trump had to answer written questions regarding Cohens claims. After Trump submitted his answers, which were truthful btw, Cohen was indicted because it was HE that had lied, not Trump.

Dan

George Papadopolous:

"lied to federal investigators about his interactions with a professor linked to the Kremlin, according to the statement of offense filed with the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. The professor told Papadopoulos that the Russians had "dirt" on then-candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of "thousands of emails."

The Professor, Joseph Misfud, turned out to be linked to the Italians and then the CIA, not the Kremlin.

Oops...

So he lied about talking about the Clinton campaign. Got it?

Dan

"And I’m not writing to amuse myself. I’m writing to counter the right wing brigade that is setting up shop here. I want to live in a modern democracy, not the backward theocracy you’re supporting."

It will be amusing to see exactly what you think a "modern democracy" is.

Would it happen to be anything and everything so called "progressives" and the left wing brigade wants - and nothing from anyone who disagrees with/opposes them? Back to the "good old days" of Obama where government/taxpayer dependency was "prosperity"? You could only "advance" by bringing someone else down first?

Alex van der Zwaan:

"Van der Zwaan had pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with another former Trump adviser, Rick Gates, and a person the FBI has assessed as being tied to Russian military intelligence."

Again...Joseph Misfud. A Maltesian...not a Russian.

Lied about talking to Gates...yamn.

Dan

4 down...and no russian collusion so far...

Gregory Craig:

Obama's Chief White house attorney.

He didn't work for Trump in any capacity. He's the Democrat throw-away and not worth my time typing.

Dan

Ok...there you have it.

No lying to Russians...about Russians...for Russians...blah blah blah. No collusion, no conspiracy, no sale.

On to the next stupid allegation and remark by urmomz and Wombat.

Dan

"As president, he is a reflection of our people’s values. Regardless of how I feel about his policies (which I also disagree with), his conduct is an embarrassment to our country and, for the first time in my life, makes me ashamed to be American."


His "conduct" is a breath of fresh air considering the 8 years of the "America is greedy/racist/an international bully" message we had from the previous administration. Trump stands up for America - and his economic policies are better than what so called "progressives" support.

Dan, Don’t like the man; don’t like his policies; it doesn’t make me one party or the other. One claim he makes is about opening manufacturing—things the companies were doing before he showed up.

More dangerous . . . we kill Soleimani; Iran “warns” the US by lobbing missies into a camp injuring how many US soldiers, and then a Ukrainian passenger jet is shot down.

One example about being a laughing stock . . . back when we could travel, I was in Spain. A cab driver asked if we were Americans and then tentatively asked how we felt about our president. Seeing our hesitation, he launched into his very negative take. If we are foolish enough to think this is just one man’s opinion or that there is no reason to care, we’d be very naive.

The drug . . . read the letter his doctor released. Not once does he say the president is actually taking this drug. In fact, he is as vague as he can possibly be. If I am in charge of the health of the leader of the free world, I am not giving him a drug proven to cause heart problems and death. And why would I believe a man whose first tactic in almost all things is to sensationalize and lie? So reminiscent of Jon Lovitz’s, “yeah, that’s the ticket.”

Fox . . . I don’t watch it either, but you can find those clips easily enough.

I don’t think many humans are actually saintly. Angels are hard to find.

World stage . . . as long as our leaders believe name calling, ridicule, bluster, ignoring facts, and lies are acceptable behavior, our country and citizens are placed at risk. We live together on one little blue marble where every action will have an opposite and equal reaction. When you don’t care what that reaction is, you jeopardize us all.

Kathleen,

"don’t like his policies"

Most, if not all, of his policies have been what Republicans in Congress have been promising retail Republicans for years, but never deliver. Even when in power.

He has delivered.

I have to conclude Kathleen that no matter how much you claim to be a Republican, you aren't. You are a Republican In Name Only. A RINO.

You talk Republican, you vote Democrat. It's that simple.

Re/ world hating.

You based ALL of your "world hates Trump" comments on...a cab driver in Spain?

Using your criteria, because a majority of Bay Area citizens hate Trump, the rest of the US should vote against him?

That you feel shame regarding what a cab driver or alleged scientist or engineer thinks tells us more about YOU, then it does about them.

Your love of country apparently stops at what other people think about it.

Dan

Dan, you clearly have no concept of how modern Russia operates.

“ What? He lied because he knowing said that "ukraine was not mentioned in a meeting".”

Ukraine is the single most important piece of Russian foreign policy and they are currently occupying Ukraine. Discussing Ukraine is discussing Russia. They’re lying about it because of the unexplained 180 from Russia being the largest threat to the United States (and still is) to Russia somehow being our friend (while actively attacking us).
“ Oops...Russian "business, not russian collusion.”

In Russia there is no separation between Russian business and the Russian state. Doing business in Russia is doing business with the state.

“Trump had to answer written questions regarding Cohens claims. After Trump submitted his answers, which were truthful btw, Cohen was indicted because it was HE that had lied, not Trump.“

Wow, revisionist much?? When asked about whether Trumps answers were untruthful, Mueller (a lifelong republican appointee by a republican who was appointed by trump) stated, “ I would say generally.”.

Trump lied. Full stop.

“The Professor, Joseph Misfud, turned out to be linked to the Italians and then the CIA, not the Kremlin. “

Volume 1 of the Mueller Report stated that Mifsud travelled to Moscow in April 2016, and upon his return told Papadopoulos that the Russian government had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. It also mentions that Papadopoulos "suggested to a representative of a foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Clinton.

Italian intelligence staged they had "no connections, no activities, no interference" in any Mifsud matter. The Italian prime minister confirmed this.

US government officials also confirmed Misfud was not an FBI or CIA asset.

You’re hopelessly ignorant about this whole thing. All you can do is repeat trump talking points and spread conspiracy theories, all of which are easily disproven. There is exactly zero question about trump and his campaign working with the Russian government, the only hurdle was proving it met the elements of a criminal conspiracy. Stop making people here stupider and educated yourself.

“ It will be amusing to see exactly what you think a "modern democracy" is. ”

1) knock the voter suppression crap off. It’s a democracy, people should be encouraged to vote
2) truth and science matter
3) were the wealthiest country in the world. Mothers shouldn’t be begging on gofundme to help pay for their children’s cancer treatments the elderly shouldn’t be choosing between eating and affording their medication
4) corporations are not people. Get corporate money out of politics so the system can start working for people again.

Dan, the stuff you skip to grab something small to harangue about while skipping injured military and planes shot out of the sky says more about you than it does me. Yes, one cab driver. One person in another country who sees Trump as a danger to our world is not an island. He is one of the multitudes.

You also aren’t learning about making suppositions about others and name calling. But then, I just have to look at whose behavior you follow.

"Any modern politician that wants increased wages, universal health care, stricter gun laws, or expanded social security is immediately labeled as a communist by the right."

Perhaps you should more closely examine what these so called "modern" politicians want before immediately rubber stamping their agenda and dismissing the naysayers.

Increased wages via more jobs/economic growth or government mandates for "free" items and so called "income equality" legislation? Bureaucrats/politicians making "universal" health care decisions or the citizens and their physicians? Gun bans/confiscation schemes (which ignore the 2nd Amendment) for the law abiding which criminals ignore? Endlessly raising taxes for/to shore up "safety net" programs without considering economic effects and loss of jobs?

Time to dismiss the "government/we know what's best for you" attitude from the left as being "modern".

"Dan, you clearly have no concept of how modern Russia operates."

You keep moving the goalposts.

First you told me Mueller proved Trump was involved in collusion. When I pasted the exact words from Mueller, exonerating Trump, you moved on to Mueller indicting many others for colluding with Russia on behalf of Trump. When I pasted the exact indictments of those men, then you whined that they were all lying about Russia. When I pasted what their lies were about now you've come back full circle to telling me I don't understand how Russia operates.

That now you've moved the discussion to my not knowing how Russians operate is just plain stupid and I've grown tired of you.

The whole thing is a farce. You know it, I know it.

He'll be re-elected in November and your sweet, sweet tears will be a joy to experience. Wait until he is unleashed from having to worry about another election.

They'll be no "please tell Vlad I'll have more flexibility after the election" like your man Obama said to the President of Russia.

Dan

Kathleen,

Last comment.

It's frustrating to hear that you don't like any of his policies, and then provide no explanation as to why. That you keep going back to essentially saying his is a MEANY is indicative of not being serious.

You continue to talk about plane crashes as if he pulled the trigger and, frankly, it sounds a little nutty.

You WANT him to fail. You NEED him to fail. All so that you can say "see, we told you" and all because he is a MEANY.

Enjoy your stock portfolio or retirement fund. You can thank Trumps policies for making them go higher.

Dan

Yeah, his son, his campaign manager, his attorney, and his national security advisor were all colluding with Russia and he had nothing to do with it... ROFL. Give me a break.

As for your stock portfolio, Trump has been objectively worse for the economy than Obama. And if you're willing to sell your country out to Russia for your stock portfolio, you're even worse than I imagined.

Dan, he is a meany. But he did win the office; I would have been much, much happier to see him succeed rather than twitter his life away. So, as the leader, he did pull the trigger. Some specifics from the “policy” page you posted (his bullet / my comment):

Almost 4 million jobs created since election. / Economy had been growing since 2009.
Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent. / Obama had better quarters.
African-American and Hispanic-American and Asian-American and women’s and youth and non-college degree persons and veterans unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded. / This was seven bullets on the list to say the same thing as the first bullet.
Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election. / How many are off food stamps because he cut them off?
95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever. Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year. / We will see how that changes. Retail sales for what month?
Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles. Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup. / He can’t take credit for this.
Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines. / “Keystone Pipeline leaks 383,000 gallons of oil in second big spill . . .”
Record number of regulations eliminated. / To whose benefit—certainly not the environment (which is proven by several other bullets on the list, including Keystone).
My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans. / Personal experience . . . not happening.

I would give him credit where due—history will tell us if anything he has done has lasting benefits to the world; but on the flip side, you and other supporters have to admit he is basically, my words, a horrible example of a human being. If aliens landed with the “take me to your leader” line, I hope Trump is on the golf course and we could find someone who better represents mankind.

I wish he was a meanie. Instead, he's a grown baby - completely lacking any class, decorum, insight, or self control. If any of these trump supporters' teenagers acted half as childish as trump, they would beat it out of them in a second.

"Yeah, his son, his campaign manager, his attorney, and his national security advisor were all colluding with Russia and he had nothing to do with it..."

Yeah...so much colluding with Russia that Mueller chose not to indict any of them.

I guess you forgot that part, didn't you?

I can only conclude you are a high school senior, at best.

Dan

"As for your stock portfolio, Trump has been objectively worse for the economy than Obama. And if you're willing to sell your country out to Russia for your stock portfolio, you're even worse than I imagined."

I agree. You are imagining.

Obama "fixed" the economy by "spreading the wealth around", mythical "shovel ready" and "green" jobs, blaming the "1%",a health care coverage mandate for employers, and higher taxes! Never mind the dismal annual growth rates during his years in office - and people that just gave up looking for jobs. Remember, this was the same guy that people pointed out during the 2008 campaign who had no management/executive experience. And were called "racists" for it.

Trump came in and "ruined" everything by making it easier to operate/start a business, not caving to international bureaucrats wanting climate change concessions (energy taxes), and letting people actually keep more of what they earned.

All you need to know about why Democrat States are trying to continue this lockdown is contained in this (always) left-leaning Politico article:

Web Link

Pull Quote:

"We are about to see the best economic data we’ve seen in the history of this country," says a top former economic adviser to Obama.

The Democrats know their goose is cooked if they don't do something to stop the economy and we all know...

"It's all about the economy, stupid."

Hat tip/ Clinton

Dan

"1) knock the voter suppression crap off. It’s a democracy, people should be encouraged to vote
2) truth and science matter
3) were the wealthiest country in the world. Mothers shouldn’t be begging on gofundme to help pay for their children’s cancer treatments the elderly shouldn’t be choosing between eating and affording their medication
4) corporations are not people. Get corporate money out of politics so the system can start working for people again."



"Modern" equals left wing....again.

1) Actually, safeguards like IDs and signatures are needed for prevention of voter fraud. Knock the "suppression" claims off. Progressives want power and will do/say just about anything to get it - regardless of the fact that their/your political agenda doesn't play well outside of coastal areas and large cities. Even Obama disguised himself as a "moderate" when running in 2008 - but didn't govern that way once elected.

2)Truth and science only matter when it suits the left politically. Why are there still "lockdowns" for everyone/businesses in states/localities when hospitals have not been overwhelmed and only the elderly and those with preexisting conditions are most at risk for COVID-19? There is no such thing as "gun violence". Why do progressives keep using this nonsensical term to describe/rationalize violent behaviors committed by people - many who already have questionable backgrounds/records?

3)It's not "fair",things are not "free", and what people earn should belong to the "community"? Sounds familiar. There have been attempts to reform health care to increase choice/reduce costs. The left opposes all them because they want a government controlled/DMV/post office approach instead. Why? They want more power over people, not improved health care delivery.

4) Let me guess. Unions good, corporations bad? Think the unions that control the politicians in this state are concerned about the residents at large? Would they support lower taxes and fewer regulations to attract more businesses/jobs?

"1) Actually, safeguards like IDs and signatures are needed for prevention of voter fraud. Knock the "suppression" claims off. Progressives want power and will do/say just about anything to get it - regardless of the fact that their/your political agenda doesn't play well outside of coastal areas and large cities. Even Obama disguised himself as a "moderate" when running in 2008 - but didn't govern that way once elected."

Trump had his commission on election integrity investigate voter fraud for 8 months. They found ZERO evidence of voter fraud. This is an imaginary problem conservatives use to suppress legitimate voters.

"2)Truth and science only matter when it suits the left politically. Why are there still "lockdowns" for everyone/businesses in states/localities when hospitals have not been overwhelmed and only the elderly and those with preexisting conditions are most at risk for COVID-19? There is no such thing as "gun violence". Why do progressives keep using this nonsensical term to describe/rationalize violent behaviors committed by people - many who already have questionable backgrounds/records?"

Truth and science always matter. It's not a conspiracy that infectious disease experts throughout the country (and the world for that matter) are recommending the lock downs. Whether the economic consequences are worth the lives saved is a political question. The effectiveness of the lock downs is a scientific fact.

As for gun violence, it seems pretty descriptive to me. Violence involving the use of a gun. We have gang violence, domestic violence, school violence, etc. Not sure why gun violence is the only one of those that is a non-nonsensical term to you. In response to the questionable backgrounds, I completely agree with this point. Perhaps republican politicians should stop blocking universal check legislation?

3)It's not "fair",things are not "free", and what people earn should belong to the "community"? Sounds familiar. There have been attempts to reform health care to increase choice/reduce costs. The left opposes all them because they want a government controlled/DMV/post office approach instead. Why? They want more power over people, not improved health care delivery.

We're the wealthiest country in the world. If we can afford corporate bailouts and tax cuts for the wealthy, we can certainly afford to pay for medical treatment for children and the elderly (like pretty much every other civilized country in the world). If you don't agree with this, we have a fundamental difference in values, which is fine.

4) Let me guess. Unions good, corporations bad? Think the unions that control the politicians in this state are concerned about the residents at large? Would they support lower taxes and fewer regulations to attract more businesses/jobs?

Yes, workers organizing is a wonderful thing and made the country what it is today. Corporations are not inherently bad, but as they are not people, they should not be influencing politicians with their money.

"They found ZERO evidence of voter fraud. This is an imaginary problem conservatives use to suppress legitimate voters."

A Sampling of Recent Election Fraud Cases from Across the United States:

Web Link

Proven instances of voter fraud: 1,285
Criminal convictions: 1,110

5 seconds.

Literally 5 seconds on Google would have given you the info you claim isn't there.

And this is just the low hanging fruit.

Dan

1,100 convictions, over at least 20 years that I saw there Dan. Not mail in ballots. 5 seconds!

Sorry, some mail ins. Web Link

“Vote fraud in the United States is exceedingly rare, with mailed ballots and otherwise. Over the past 20 years, about 250 million votes have been cast by a mail ballot nationally. The Heritage Foundation maintains an online database of election fraud cases in the United States and reports that there have been just over 1,200 cases of vote fraud of all forms, resulting in 1,100 criminal convictions, over the past 20 years. Of these, 204 involved the fraudulent use of absentee ballots; 143 resulted in criminal convictions.“

"As for gun violence, it seems pretty descriptive to me. Violence involving the use of a gun. We have gang violence, domestic violence, school violence, etc. Not sure why gun violence is the only one of those that is a non-nonsensical term to you. In response to the questionable backgrounds, I completely agree with this point. Perhaps republican politicians should stop blocking universal check legislation?"

Not paying attention..again?

The left wing thinks firearms "cause" violence, the people who abuse them are victims of a "public health problem", and the solution is to shut down legal process to own/use them for everyone.

That's why Swalwell and others blame the NRA/gun manufacturers for violence - and demand firearms bans/mandatory turn in programs for the law abiding to supposedly "stop" it. Criminals are not going to get background checks because they get firearms with illegal transactions - and they won't comply with turn in programs either. Another example of the silly reasoning process of so called "progressives".

I love how Swalwell keeps talking about Russian collusion as if it really did happen.

Its amazing his followers here on this thread don't know that not ONE Obama Administration official, when sworn in and asked about evidence of collusion. verified that there was any evidence.

Not. One.

They all testified that there was no evidence that they'd seen of Trump colluding with Russians.

You wouldn't know that by watching television, but there is is.

Look up the documents released directly from the former Director of ODNI, Richard Grenell.

Suck it up Democrats. Another loss in the column.

Dan