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Pleasanton school board fires Supt. Rick Rubino

Original post made on Jan 6, 2017

The Pleasanton school board tonight voted unanimously to remove Rick Rubino from the position of superintendent, effective immediately.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, January 6, 2017, 9:12 PM

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Posted by Confused-Vranesh/Andrade
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 6, 2017 at 9:48 pm

When Lauren Andrade was placed on paid administrative leave in 2013 for misconduct, there were no headlines. Her misconduct investigation was brushed under the rug. Luckily for PUSD her misconduct investigation was overshadowed by the Vranesh investigation. She walked away with a $40,000 settlement and then self revoked her teaching credential pending a misconduct investigation. Why wasn't her administrative leave publicized? Is that because she wasn't an administrator?


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Posted by Marie
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 6, 2017 at 9:59 pm

Fired? Yikes. What is wrong with the school district? PUSD used to be a district of character and was so desirable to work for. Now it seems they cannot hold on to good people nor do they hire good people. A job at PUSD was coveted. I feel for the conscientious employees who have to live with this, the parents who can't figure out what is going on with this district, and the students who hear so much negativity about the people they should be looking up to. The district/board may think these things don't affect the students, but ultimately it does. PUSD get your act together.


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Posted by High school student
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 6, 2017 at 10:33 pm

Being a male student or any male principal or in any male leadership position in the Pleasanton Unified schools is like a combination of being in the middle of Arthur Miller's "The Crucible" and Dante's "Inferno."

I guess that "charges" and public shame come with the territory here in Pleasanton.

Often mistake for a long lost memoir about the history of the decline and fall of the Pleasanton school, the Inferno recounts Dante’s descent through the nine layers of Hell accompanied by the poet Virgil. All kidding aside, this is not about the realities of Pleasanton schools. Or teachers who don't teach. Or principals or admins that suddenly go on leave. Although it could be.

Any principal or superintendent with any common sense would never ever take a job in Pleasanton. Unless they are desperate and can't get a comparable job anywhere else. Who would want to possibly work here?


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Jan 7, 2017 at 12:13 am

He lasted just 6 months??? Former Superintendent Ahmadi must be having a good chuckle over this. And who can blame her?


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Posted by PFTCommenter
a resident of another community
on Jan 7, 2017 at 1:02 am

Just good ol fashon locker room talk with the boys. PC Police at it again. Can't handal it well theirs the door too livermore.


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Posted by Elizabeth
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 7, 2017 at 5:28 am

Does anyone know what Mr. Rubino did that got him fired?


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Posted by Sjh
a resident of Jensen Tract
on Jan 7, 2017 at 5:33 am

Embarrassing , just fricken embarrassing !!!


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Posted by justateach
a resident of another community
on Jan 7, 2017 at 7:59 am

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As someone who knows many from Mr Rubinos employment prior to pleasanton
lets just say there are many who are thrilled justice is finally being
served to a very unprofessional superintendent. Very curious as to which
behavior he finally got nailed for.


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Posted by Bay Area Native
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jan 7, 2017 at 8:42 am

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PUSD has been dysfunctional for years. Casey had mixed reviews, failed to groom a successor and hired a dreadful cabinet. Two were incompetent and one was tyrannical.

Ahmadi was always in over her head and she was saddled with Casey's cabinet. Ahmadi's skill-set deficiencies prevented her from changing cabinet members as she relied on their knowledge. Over time she proved to be dogmatic,vindictive and mean-spirited.

Self-serving APT "leadership" under Carpenter and Clark created the hostile environment towards site administrators. Maher is clueless that APT is a huge part of the problem. He followed APT's narrative in lockstep while serving as interim principal at WG. APT will find out how unpopular they are with their own members after Freidrichs v CTA gets another shot with a nine justice SCOTUS.

The dysfunction at the district office combined with our failure to support site administrators has resulted in PUSD's astronomical turn-over and excessive legal costs. Employees join organizations and leave managers. The site administrators report to Odie.

Either Rubino was falsely accused or he was a bad hire. Regardless, it will be a formidable challenge to hire someone with the ability to fix PUSD's broken culture. The vetting process has got to be more thorough.

Students will continue to excel despite the obstacles. Committed parents, teachers, staff, students themselves and volunteers make the learning experience a positive one for most. It's sad though that this happens in spite of the district and not because of it.


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Posted by Kate
a resident of Kottinger Ranch
on Jan 7, 2017 at 8:48 am

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The Board had a year to make the right hire and we get someone with a questionable background and a firing after 5 months? The mis-hirings costing taxpayers of PUSD millions of dollars needs to be investigated and action taken. Who's name was on Rubino's contract? That person has got some explaining to do!!


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Posted by aTeacherToo
a resident of another community
on Jan 7, 2017 at 11:49 am

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Knowing Mr. Rubino from his prior employment, I can only say that I am astonished at this entire situation. Mr. Rubino's recognition of the changing needs in education, his push for the adoption of modern technologies, and his promotion of student-centered methods put our current and future students in a much better position than they were prior to his employment in our district.

It appears that PUSD has a significant history with investigations and administrative mishandlings. Although I do not know the details of this situation, I will presume that there are far more facets to the story than these news snippets provide.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Downtown
on Jan 7, 2017 at 12:00 pm

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Good for the Board! If he was not the right person, fire him and move on! Move forward! Glad to see that the Board understands that the Super answers to them, and not the other way around!


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Posted by Vic-tah
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jan 7, 2017 at 1:05 pm

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I thought there was an earlier report that he transferred a janitor or maintenance worker without clearing it with the board first? If so, is this a firing offense? Note the two conflicting reports from people from another district who know of him -- one positive, one negative. We may never know! But this is not a very impressive history for the board....


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Posted by Get the Facts
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 7, 2017 at 4:16 pm

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Andrade wasn't an administrator.

"What is wrong with the school district?"
Nothing.

"PUSD used to be a district of character and was so desirable to work for. Now it seems they cannot hold on to good people nor do they hire good people. A job at PUSD was coveted."
PUSD is still a coveted district, staff at all levels are paid more than staff at most other districts. PUSD attracts highly desired staff from elsewhere.

"As someone who knows many from Mr Rubinos employment prior to pleasanton lets just say there are many who are thrilled justice is finally being served to a very unprofessional superintendent."
justateach, can you give us more information?

"Casey had mixed reviews, failed to groom a successor..." A superintendent doesn't groom a successor, instead a large search is done for a successor, looking both in-house and beyond. It's been a long time since a superintendent came to Pleasanton from in-house.

"Self-serving APT "leadership" under Carpenter and Clark created the hostile environment towards site administrators."
This quote is from someone in Pleasanton Valley, obviously still bitter over Jon Vranesh. Vranish earned his dismissal, please don't blame the union for this.

"The Board had a year to make the right hire and we get someone with a questionable background and a firing after 5 months?"
I agree, the board should demand a refund from the search firm.

Vic-Tah, he would not be fired for moving a classified employee. I am not familiar with the CSEA contract, but there are rules about transfers, and if the rules were broken, the custodian/worker would be moved back. Plus this probably happened on a lower level, maybe even by a site administrator or HR, a superintendent probably has no real contact or involvement with classified employees.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 7, 2017 at 5:08 pm

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GtF, "a superintendent probably has no real contact or involvement with classified employees." The statement feels cold or aloof or uninformed. Classified employees also have a union, for one, and employee actions are reviewed by the superintendent. You need to be at least minimally aware of potential problems or when a move is best, whether for the employee or co-workers. I agree this dismissal was unlikely because of an employee move.


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Posted by Get the Facts
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 7, 2017 at 5:17 pm

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It may be "cold or aloof", but a PUSD superintendent is, for all intent and purposes, a CEO of a 700 or 800-plus company (I don't know the current employee count). A CEO cannot know every detail and know the minutia of all comings and goings and day-to-day events of all the schools, it's just not possible. I seriously doubt any superintendent of a district this large wants to know when every teacher, custodian, aide, maintenance worker or the like moves positions, he/she would have too many other bigger picture items on their plate. That is why there is an HR department. I doubt he knew of this change, unless there was something controversial behind the change.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 7, 2017 at 6:00 pm

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The first thing employees read in a board packet is the personnel pages, so I have never worked with a superintendent who isn't at least paying attention. If not, you know, you get grievances and lawsuits. The best superintendents work dillegently to know their schools and the people in them over time. Our board members know many employees too.

Saying 'everyday comings and goings' is hyperbole.


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Posted by Kate
a resident of Kottinger Ranch
on Jan 7, 2017 at 6:27 pm

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To get the facts- the search firm did not sign Rubinos contract. Someone from the Board, I'm assuming, did. When you sign your name to a contract you better have more information than just what a search firm provided. Background checks? Visits to his former school districts? Interview neighbors? Something was clearly lacking in more than just the search firm.


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Posted by OhBoy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 7, 2017 at 7:02 pm

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First of all, the Vranesh saga is not finished, so time will tell if he "earned" his dismissal or not. Fact of the mater the union was very heavily involved in that whole saga. One only needs to read the comments from the previous union head in her pages and pages of publicly available interviews to see exactly how involved the union was in the mess. It also appears that the union was pretty successful in keeping Andrade's mess hidden. You certainly didn't hear the union head threatening the district to remove Andrade from the classroom or they would go "public" like Peggy Carpenter did with Vranesh. Andrade's mess wasn't about hurt feelings, it was directly involved her interaction with STUDENTS. What's more important? Hurt feelings of adults or how a teacher conducts herself with students? It's shameful what went on in that situation.

Second of all a good CEO knows the "company" inside and out including lowly janitors and such. Classified staff are as important as the teachers in making this district run successfully. We've got to get away from the antiquated idea that it's only the teachers that are important in a district. It's shocking some people still think that way.


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Posted by Get the Facts
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 8, 2017 at 12:34 pm

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"The first thing employees read in a board packet is the personnel pages, so I have never worked with a superintendent who isn't at least paying attention."
I look at the personnel pages too, so fair enough, I'm sure most superintendents do as well. But I hope you can agree that a superintendent really does not know why employees have left much of the time. This is, again, why there is an HR department and site administrators. A boss must trust the people working below him or her to do their jobs.

"Saying 'everyday comings and goings' is hyperbole."
I disagree, but you only quoted part of what I said, which stated: "A CEO cannot know every detail and know the minutia of all comings and goings and day-to-day events of all the schools." I stand by this statement. Do you think the principals report to the superintendent each day of what happened at each site? That's ridiculous. Again, a boss must trust the people working below him or her to do their jobs. It's not "hyperbole".

Kate, I agree with what you have said. But what I am trying to say, is that when you buy something you have a belief that what you have purchased has at least a minimal guarantee. If I buy a lightbulb, it shouldn't burn out the next day. I think that in this case, since something drastic has gone wrong, and only six months later, that we should be entitled to a refund, clearly there is something that the search firm missed. But I have no idea what goes into this process, maybe there is no recourse for a refund, maybe it is buyer beware.

"First of all, the Vranesh saga is not finished..."
I disagree, he is long gone. If there is any pending lawsuits, they will not affect the students, teachers, or school sites whatsoever.

"Fact of the mater the union was very heavily involved in that whole saga."
Yes, because it had great effect on union members. The union had no choice but to be involved.

"You certainly didn't hear the union head threatening... they would go "public" like Peggy Carpenter did with Varnish."
This did not happen, that "threat" was not made. If I am wrong, please give a link.

"Classified staff are as important as the teachers in making this district run successfully."
I absolutely agree.

"We've got to get away from the antiquated idea that it's only the teachers that are important in a district."
I didn't say that. No one wrote that in any post above. Who is saying that?


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Posted by Bay Area Native
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jan 8, 2017 at 12:59 pm

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"A superintendent doesn't groom a successor" That's one of the problems with PUSD. "A PUSD superintendent is, for all intent and purposes, a CEO of a 700 or 800-plus company." Correct and CEO's of successful and admired companies develop talent and have succession plans in place. Every company I worked for has succession plans and even mid-level managers are evaluated on talent development and employee retention. Get the facts.


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Posted by Common Sense
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 8, 2017 at 1:17 pm

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And how much did the school board spend to recruit this guy? From what I remember, some head-hunter firm was used to get us this crappy choice. Are we going to get a refund from them or is the school board going to hire this same firm to give us yet another crappy choice? It's time to drain the swamp, folks!


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Posted by Get the Facts
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 8, 2017 at 1:22 pm

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$28,000. Web Link

I agree, let's get a refund.

Please don't use "drain the swamp", that's a cliche, if we fired the board and administrators in PUSD, they have nothing to do with the search, this would be pointless. The fault lies mainly in a lousy search.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 8, 2017 at 2:13 pm

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GtF, I think you are wrong about what superintendents know (OhBoy said it best). Having worked closely with the superintendents and cabinet members, they need to know about trends (why is everyone wanting to transfer, for example), possible grievances; and, again, the best have open doors to all their employees. I made those appointments and saw who came and went. This isn’t about trusting administrators; people want and need to have access to the top. And it isn’t about trusting your people; it’s about communication and transparency.

If it impacts a teacher, a student, a parent . . . the superintendent is going to get the first call. Susie has a bad day (or two or three), and the parent often calls the superintendent first. A teacher has an idea for a program, they may call the superintendent. And every superintendent I worked for visited schools, administrators, teachers, and student events all the time. They knew who lost a loved one, who was having a baby, anyone going through a rough patch or having incredible success . . . some sent personal notes or emails. Others made personal visits to families. It is much deeper than just whirling around the facility for photo ops. The best are more like Jim Hansen and a lot less like the two who preceded him.

There are cabinet meetings every week; there are principal meetings at least once a month (some have separate TK-12, 6-12, and TK-5 meetings on a regular basis). They are run by the superintendent. This is a hands-on business where the success of students is the product. You can’t get success without being involved with those who do the work, from the district office to all those at the sites. The rule used to be, if it flashes, call the DO. Every police car or fire truck or ambulance call, the superintendent knows. So, yes, even with your full quote, it is hyperbole. They know the best; they know the worst. It isn’t easy and they won’t know everyone well, but their fingers are definitely on the pulse, always.

I worry you haven’t worked for a strong superintendent; I also worry that this district has been unable to find someone like that for many years.

There won't be a refund, just an offer to do another search for free. Better to dump them and find someone else.

Training successors--it happens, but rarely do boards hire from within. Most people leave a district, prove themselves in another district in a new role, and sometimes come home again. We lost a good internal candidate years ago who went on to be a great superintendent elsewhere. Our loss.


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Posted by Get the Facts
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 8, 2017 at 2:35 pm

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"If it impacts a teacher, a student, a parent . . . the superintendent is going to get the first call."
I disagree, more often than not, the principal gets the call.

"...and the parent often calls the superintendent first."
I would say sometimes, not "often", and certainly not close to always. Though I have known parents who call the sup, most call the principal, and if they call the sup, they usually have called the principal too.

Let's be honest here, most parents don't know the name of the superintendent, but almost all know the name of the principal.

"The best are more like Jim Hansen and a lot less like the two who preceded him."
Mr. Hansen was only on my campus once last year. I saw the past three sups on our campus more than once each school year.

"I worry you haven’t worked for a strong superintendent"
I disagree. You can say all you want about PA superintendents, but since you left PUSD you are on the outside looking in, and though I know you have a ton of knowledge about this, you simply were not on the inside working with them.

"There won't be a refund, just an offer to do another search for free. Better to dump them and find someone else."
I'm afraid you will probably be right about this, no refund. But NO WAY do we use them again.

And thanks for clearing up the "training successors" piece, it seems some writers here believe this works like a business or politics. Schools are different. Kathleen, who was the good internal candidate we lost?


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 8, 2017 at 2:54 pm

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I don't think there's much to debate about who gets the calls; it's both and it depends. I am a bit stunned by the notion of people not knowing the superintendent. They should. I think they do. You are short-changing the community.

Jim had a lot to catch up on never having been a superintendent or a member of the cabinet. Given more time, he would have been there. My impression is that he is that kind of leader.

I'm on the outside, but I know plenty of people who are/were on the inside. It's a big network; you know that.

Everyone is going to have to be vocal and supportive of the board going elsewhere for help. They will be sensitive about having another expense.

Well, I know many felt the way I did about the candidate, but maybe not everyone. The person who never even got an interview was Jim Negri.


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Posted by SHale
a resident of San Ramon
on Jan 8, 2017 at 2:58 pm

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Actually a parent should follow chain-of-command, first. And document everything along the way. If problem with teacher you start with them; then bounce to principal and then bounce to superintendent. Bouncing to the top (first) will just get you redirected back down the chain. I believe most parents know this dance.

Surprised nobody has asked if the 'fired' super received a severance/balloon package.......


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 8, 2017 at 3:22 pm

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SHale, you are correct about the process. However, if something is very serious, superintendents will listen and direct staff afterwards.

I contacted board members. Rubino was not fired for cause, which means he will get the twelve month payout, plus benefits I believe. No response yet on how that will be paid. Also don't know if we are on the hook for other benefits until he is 65. I need to look at his contract again.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 8, 2017 at 9:59 pm

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So...

No consistent leadership from the district administrative level going on at least a couple years now and yet school test scores still high and going up.

It looks like our tax money is going to good use at the district level, no?

That last line might have been sarcasm.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 8, 2017 at 11:19 pm

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Here is the recent report on CAASP scores: Web Link

Here is some comparative data: Web Link

We have high performing students in this measure, which is cause to celebrate; but we do not serve all students well using this single data point. We also are outranked by other districts, although the provided comparison doesn't have the full analysis to compare. That can likely be found on the CDE or Ed Data sites.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 9, 2017 at 7:57 am

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Kathleen,

There are over 1000 school districts in California. The fact that Pleasanton's' in the top 10 is nothing to sneeze at and yet, there you go. And still does not address my initial premise.

And serving "all students well"?

This is a sentiment that I see politicians use all the time. Like when a couple years ago our Governor pushed though a raise in the State sales tax, then proclaimed that we had record revenues, which was then followed by massive spending, and then another proclamation that we needed more revenue.

Circle completed.

The money is there, its always there. How smartly its spent is the issue and has always been the issue especially within governments.



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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 9, 2017 at 8:14 am

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Edit to above:

Personal Income tax raise, not sales tax.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 9, 2017 at 8:47 am

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We aren't 10th, we are 45th--again, only by testing data: Web Link

Still high for the nearly 900 included on that site, but we aren't in the top ten.

US News ranking for Amador: Web Link

Foothill: Web Link

My comment is we spend a lot of time tooting our horns, and we aren't looking at the whole picture. When we look at the ethnic and socioeconomic breakdowns, we should be concerned because those numbers are students.

I agree the increased tax and its re-up puts a bandaid on finding true education funding solutions.


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Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jan 9, 2017 at 8:52 am

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I visited Fair Oaks elementary in Oakdale last Friday.
Curiously I compared data from Fair Oaks to data from Lydiksen in Pleasanton.

Lydiksen:
Students enrolled - 670.
Student teacher ratio - 25.
API - 891.
Qualified for free or reduced lunch - 8%.

Fair Oaks:
Students enrolled - 855.
Student teacher ratio - 22.
API - 844.
Qualified for free or reduced lunch - 42%.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 9, 2017 at 9:18 am

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Kathleen,

Sorry, I should have put in the "%" in the above. So we're in the top 5%, and have remained in the top 5% for a while now and that means...we haven't done enough?

I guess I must have miss something.

Let's be frank: the reason why our students perform well is because they come from families that put a premium on education. Place these families in any other district as a whole and you will get the same results. The leadership at the district level does not effect these children, and the fact that we had feckless leadership under Ahmadi, and literally ZERO leadership from Ramos proves this point because the scores are STILL high according to the data you provided.

That you redirect issue to include those students that don't do as well does not diminish my point.

More money and government does not equal better education. The facts are right there in front of you.



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Posted by OhBoy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 9, 2017 at 9:31 am

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GTF -100 percent Peggy Carpenter threatened to go to the media if she didn't get what she wanted with Vranesh. I'd provide the link but it has since been removed from the district website, but you know that. I would upload it here but that feature isn't available Give Peggy Carpenter a call and ask her. I doubt she would lie now especially since it's well documented in so many places. The union didn't serve their own members well in that debacle, they handled the situation as poorly as the Superintendent did. They did however do a great job at protecting Andrade.

I saw on another comment you claim parents don't know what is going on in the classroom, now you claim we don't even know the name of the superintendent. You certainly don't have much respect for parents. You also claimed earlier there is nothing wrong with our district, again I beg to differ. Until every last student is well served there is ALWAYS room for improvement. PUSD has a lot of improving to do.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 9, 2017 at 9:38 am

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You are missing the point--I am not asking for either money or government. I'd make regional offices of ed and cut the county and also cut the support we send to Sacramento to fund us with less than the money we send there. We'd be better off solving funding by regional means.

We can point to our successes, and there's no argument it's demographics. However, until we serve all students--and we don't--the success should be tempered by what else needs to be done. There are less monied families here who value education, but their children do not have the same shot at success. We should find solutions; we seem to be an intelligent and capable community. A little less hand wringing and maybe some clear action?


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Posted by SHale
a resident of San Ramon
on Jan 9, 2017 at 12:44 pm

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So, new dude is fired. Will receive 12mo or some portion as a payout. AND still no details on what happened? that should be the hue and cry, imho.
SRVUSD too had a new superintendent right about same time; he's still here.....better due diligence? better search committee? hum


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Posted by res1
a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Jan 9, 2017 at 1:31 pm

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If the super was fired "without cause" does that mean we, the taxpayer of this public education system, will know the cause? Since we, the taxpayers, are on the hook for a year of salary, we should be given some information.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 9, 2017 at 3:05 pm

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Kathleen,

Gee, when have you ever seen government reduce itself without the will of the citizens who imposed it at the ballot box, and even then it doesn't happen very frequently. Fact is, I can't remember it ever happening!

So pie-in-the-sky just doesn't cut it and STILL does not address my central premise: Lack of leadership, yet the scores remain high.

You can continue to redirect to outliers, but I have never seen anything in life that is perfect. And humans are far from being perfect.






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Posted by DKHSK
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on Jan 9, 2017 at 3:17 pm

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I think Michaels comparison between the Pleasanton/Oakdale schools is very interesting.

That the student/teacher ratio was lower in the Oakdale schools, yet the scores were also lower is very interesting.

How do the teachers and economic theorists on this topic explain the differences?





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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 9, 2017 at 3:47 pm

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Those scores were high given the 47% reduced lunch number. There has not been a recent study that I'm aware of that correlates better scores to lower class sizes. It will correlate to class management and less stress for teachers, possibly even students. I think it has to get to 15:1 before you can make that link. I've always thought CSR is not worth the cost, but parents seem to prefer it.

There are government cutbacks all the time; they are always because of lower tax revenue and never permanent because revenues go back up.

The leadership is key, but in a brief absence, everyone else is still doing their jobs. Unless you are going to have every department head and/or principal report to the board directly, you will need a leader.

Pie in the sky stays that way because there are enough outliers to force change. I don't think anyone/thing is perfect either.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 9, 2017 at 3:49 pm

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Sorry, there are *not* enough outliers . . .


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Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jan 9, 2017 at 4:21 pm

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I believe student stress relates to API.
Elementary students over hear their parents worry about issues they deal with.
Students in turn worry about their parents.

The nine elementary schools in Pleasanton have average enrollment of 650 to 670 students.

Donlon in Pleasanton has an API of 918 out of a possible 1000.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 9, 2017 at 5:18 pm

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Michael,

I'm not doubting your API scores for the Oakdale school, but when I checked the SARC scores for that same school they were below standards in every subject.

I realize they're different measures but which one should be used?


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Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jan 9, 2017 at 5:56 pm

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My API data is from the California Department of Education.
My Student to teacher ratio is from the California Department of Education.
My reduced lunch numbers are from the California Department of Education.
My enrollment numbers are from the California Department of Education.
All of the above numbers are verified by supervisors I communicated with at OJUSD and PUSD, with the exception of the API scores, I did not verify with the districts, accepting the CDE API numbers.


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Posted by DirkDiggler
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on Jan 10, 2017 at 5:25 am

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