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Pleasanton school board approves management raises

Original post made on Oct 24, 2013

Administrators at the Pleasanton School District will get raises that match those given to other employees earlier this year. No one spoke at a Pleasanton School Board public hearing about the raises, which include a 1.1% salary hike and a one-time bonus of 1% of annual pay.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, October 24, 2013, 7:29 AM

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Posted by Being Scammed
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 24, 2013 at 8:37 am

What they don't tell you is that a number of these administrators retire at age 50 with full salary and benefits for life. They also don't have to put in nearly the hours that teachers do. One of the biggest scams being foisted on the public (this side of the BART dolts) is school superintendent's compensation packages.

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Posted by Chemist
a resident of Downtown
on Oct 24, 2013 at 11:35 am

Yes, we're being scammed by over paying administrators, and over paying for technology "upgrades". A new computer shouldn't cost more than $500 with software installed - especially for a school buying a bunch of them. What black hole do they sink these millions of dollars into? Probably hiring the same folks who set up the Obamacare websites.

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Posted by Curious
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 24, 2013 at 7:34 pm

Scammed - I'm curious. Can you name one administrator from Pleasanton that has retired at age 50 with full salary and benefits? If "a number" of these people exist, I'd like to know who they are.

Chemist - You seem like a guy with all the answers. Can I plan to see you at the public meetings the technology director is having? I'm sure he'd be happy to have someone as knowledgable as you to help him decide how technology dollars should best be spent for our kids.

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Posted by Alice
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 25, 2013 at 10:31 pm

Oh You Go Curious! Put up or shut up. No one at that district (except maybe overpaid sups) retire at 50 with full bennies. Name them!! Don't believe all the crap you read on the internet. And yes if you are so knowledgable about computers there are several Technology Community Forums coming up. Please come bring your knowledge and help your future, our kids. Check the PUSD website.

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Posted by Arnold
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 25, 2013 at 10:56 pm

This school district and school board don't get it. Money is tight and it's about to get much more difficult for the district. Instead of trying to figure out how to spend money they don't have they should be trying to figure out how to make use with what's available.

I would like to know what the district is doing to prepare for the inevitable increase in pension costs for both classified and non-classified employees. How are they going to pay for it? What do their five & 10 year budget projections look like? With both the CalSTRS/CalPERS pension system grossly under funded is it wise to give any raises and bonuses which both increase the pension contribution?

Why is the district promoting excessive technology costs which they've, in this article, basically acknowledged they can't afford?

"The report also calls for spending $1 million on laptops for teachers and staff."

- Please justify that!

"Board member Jamie Hintzke questioned whether the district should move to projectors and away from flat screen TVs that are already being used in some classrooms."

- didn't the district recently buy the flat screens?

"The district is putting together a spending plan to accompany the technology plan, she said. Some money could come from one-time state money to implement a new learning plan, Common Core. Other money could come by using reserve funds that came with the sale of land, known as the Sycamore Fund."

- Really. Some could come from ... we have onetime reserves we can blow through, etc... But, she said,

"the district may need to look to voters to approve short-term borrowing through a bond issue. Some districts are using five-year general obligation bonds to pay for technology improvements, with the plan of going back to voters again as technology becomes dated."

- Probably every five years. Has it become impossible to for the district to make use of current technology while also having the teachers teach, lecture, and interact? Maybe they can incorporate the above into real world trade-offs and budgeting exercises?

The district would be best served by understanding what lies ahead and planning accordingly. It doesn't appear that's happening.

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Posted by local
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 25, 2013 at 11:11 pm

A bond for technology is stupid. We will still be paying for the bond way past the time the technology is obsolete. If the community wants to pay more for technology then it should do something like a parcel tax, not a bond that you have to pay interest on. Short-term bonds make absolutely no sense at all. It would take at least 3 years to purchase all the technology but we would be paying interest from the beginning. Sounds like another bonehead idea from the district.

On the meeting where they gave out the raises to the administration and nobody spoke, I wonder how anybody would have known this was going to occur. The school district makes it quite difficult to know ahead of time on what they are going to vote on. An article like this would be better BEFORE the meeting to alert the public instead of after the meeting (and saying nobody spoke about it).

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Posted by Steve
a resident of Parkside
on Oct 26, 2013 at 1:08 am

Yes! More stuff for me to hate on! I love it!

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Posted by Get the facts
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 26, 2013 at 8:03 pm

The comments by "Being Scammed" to start things off are so laughable! For starters, I have never seen an administrator retire at 50, or even anywhere in their 50's (as a teacher, I wish some of them would retire earlier!!!). Like everyone else, they have a number to hit, whether it be 60, 61, or whatever. Many work well into their 60's.

But even more ridiculous is the comment, "They also don't have to put nearly the hours in that teachers do." Oh wow, is this false! The countless hours of extra work, including meetings and athletics at night, means the administrators work many more hours. I can guarantee that every teacher makes more per hour, than most administrators, with the possible exception of those at the very top. I thought about administration, even got my administrative credential, but decided that I'd like to coach my kids' soccer teams, be home for dinner more than a couple of times a week, etc. They also get really only four weeks off each summer, compared to the ten Pleasanton teachers get. Sure administrators get more money, but it comes with a HUGE sacrifice, a sacrifice most people would probably not want to make. (High school principals and VP's have it the worst, they work a TON of hours.)

So, to sum up, "Being Scammed" is simply trying to scam you with his/her comments.

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Posted by john
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 26, 2013 at 11:01 pm

"This school district and school board don't get it. Money is tight and it's about to get much more difficult for the district."

You've been saying that for years now, and instead of there being less money, there has been more money coming in over the last couple years. What gives? You're sounding a bit like Chicken Little.

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Posted by Teachers
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 27, 2013 at 7:28 am

There go the teachers again defending those terrible time consuming jobs they have. Don't like it go out in the real world and get a real job where no ones cares about your feelings. Just the bottom line

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Posted by Parent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 27, 2013 at 1:21 pm

Really Arnold, you just sound so uniformed when you post, you make serious claims as if youre an authority in attempts to fool this community with your political agenda.

What you are completely missing is what is actually coming for schools in CA in the way of standards, instructional demands, and technology requirements. The district has been reaching out to this community- I went to the forum- there were about 5 parents there including myself. This is where input for the new plans are being made. There are multiple times to join in and help make this policy or better yet, just learn what is really going on in our schools. Web Link

To skip this process, come here and rant, then say PUSD going against the will of the community is clearly what makes your posts so ignorant and something I have learned to disregard as BS.

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Posted by To: parent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm

I apologize if I come across as uninformed. While I consider myself very informed, and I've tried to inform others in past writings, maybe I need to do a better job. I say that knowing writing, or even formulating arguments, isn't my strength. I point to issues regarding the PUSD because I believe they are extremely important to me and everyone else in this community, especially school age children and their parents. And I strongly believe the districts mission has been compromised by competing interests.

So please excuse my form and pay attention to the content. If you are truly a concerned parent I'd like you to understand I'm a strong supporter of education. What I'm attempting to do is highlight issues that our School District Management and some Board Members are trying to gloss over or completely ignore. Many Board Members don't even understand the Pension Cost issue/problem. If they don't understand the problem hey have little to no chance of preparing for it, or fixing it.

I’ll provide more information, with a link to a study that discusses the impact pension costs will have on all California School Districts, which aren‘t being discussed in Pleasanton, very soon. And the exorbitant costs I’m referring to are very alarming. For those asking for CSR, I think once they understand how much the districts cost are about to increase they’ll understand that ... To read what I’ve already written on this topic you can probably google: Arnold +PUSD +pensions


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Posted by Arnold
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 28, 2013 at 11:18 pm

"Posted by john,

"This school district and school board don't get it. Money is tight and it's about to get much more difficult for the district."

You've (Arnold) been saying that for years now, and instead of there being less money, there has been more money coming in over the last couple years. What gives? You're sounding a bit like Chicken Little."

If there is more money why is the district contemplating BOND financing? Where did the "more money" go?

While I'm OK with you calling me "chicken little", the truth is there isn't more money and the district finances are in dire straights despite claims to the contrary by the district management and the school board.

John, I'm encouraged you've thought enough about my previous comments to remember I've been making them for sometime now. I've been sounding this same alarm for several years and now, unfortunately, the problem is much worse. What gives, John, is that school districts are on the hook for billions of dollars every year to cover the Unfunded pension Liability of both classified and non-classified employees. The average cost increase per employee will strangle the PUSD budget, yet they continue to spend what they don't have.

The reason I'll be making an issue of this is only partly because the district seems oblivious to what is coming. The other reason is that the district/board, if they do understand what's coming, aren't be honest with the public, IMO.

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Posted by Lee King Haynus
a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Oct 29, 2013 at 9:43 am

yes. arnold is right. nobody deserves a raise but him.

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Posted by Economist
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 29, 2013 at 9:40 pm

We know historically most in academia come up short in understanding economics. Lack of understanding of time, interest, priorities, and basic principles of economic responsibility are similar with both BART and academia.

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Posted by Seriously
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 29, 2013 at 10:12 pm

"GMI Ratings’ 2013 CEO Pay Survey Reveals CEO Pay is Still on the Rise- they are making 273 times the pay of the average worker, yet salaries increases are on the rise for them"..... I love how there's an 'economist' to explain this all to us.

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Posted by local
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 30, 2013 at 9:08 am

Seriously you do not get the difference between the private sector and the public sector.

How does a salary for somebody in the private sector affect you? Zilch. That company is making enough money to pay the salary. They cannot just go in and say that they want to give raises and have to raise the price of their goods/services to pay for it. Doing so will mean their competition will make the money and they receive nothing as people have a choice. If a company raises their prices, you can go elsewhere.

In the public sector, there is no profit. The services are paid for mostly by taxes. Essentially meaning the services are subsidized. So if you want to pay the public employees more if there is a profit, go for it. There will never be a profit. BART survives because it is subsidized by taxes. It would be loosing a boatload of money every month if it relied on the fares, or the fares would have to be so high that nobody would ride the system, and thus there would be no need for workers.

The only way for a public sector to afford raises is to: wait for a better economy and more taxes coming in because the private sector is doing well, raise taxes, raise the cost of services, or decrease services. The issue is government is a monopoly. This allows the government to reduce services in order to pay the employees more because we are stuck with a sole source.

So talking about economic responsibilities, a company will not give out raises to the CEO or the employees unless there is more profit. That comes through either efficiencies or selling more. Is the ratio of CEO salary to the other workers fair? Probably not, but that has nothing to do with the public sector that is paid through taxes and with no ability for competition.

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