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Need help from PUSD Math Teachers . . .

Original post made by tax revolt 2, Country Fair, on Apr 23, 2009

Supporters of Measure G claim Pleasanton teachers are taking a ‘pay cut’ next year because they will work two less days. At the same time the PUSD website says teachers will receive salary increases next year. I pose the following question to PUSD math teachers who might help voters sort out the truth.

If PUSD will pay $1.3M more in teacher salaries next school year compared to this year. And if teachers give up two work days and $760,000 in salary next year compared to this year, then will Pleasanton teachers:

a) Enjoy a salary increase totaling $540,000?
b) Pretend they have a salary ‘cut’?
c) Sweet. I work two days less and get paid more. I’ll let Measure G supporters fool the voters into thinking I’m getting a salary ‘cut’.

Supporters of Measure G are spreading mistruths. Learn the facts at (Web Link)

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Posted by Get out of the wagon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 23, 2009 at 11:08 pm

Nicely done, Tax Revolt 2.

I for one want to actually see what will happen when Measure G fails. I want to see exactly how the district will take care of the kids. The union is supporting the teachers. Who is protecting the kids? Let's see what they do without more money.

We can always vote for a tax another time...although I won't vote for it.

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Posted by frank
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Apr 23, 2009 at 11:53 pm

you forgot to add

d) avoid the fact that pay averages $94K per year for 9 months of work.

e) do the math that shows what the average salary per 9 months is if different from the $94K

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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 23, 2009 at 11:57 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Psssst, it's $1.5MM, not $1.3MM...

The "pay cut" depends upon where a teacher is on the salary schedule. Some are in line for a step raise, a column raise, or both. In that case, the "pay cut" may actually result in a net increase. For others it will be a real furlough. It's difficult to tell how widespread the net increase or cut is unless you have access to the right data. But considering that the District says $1.5MM for S&C increases and the "pay cut" is only $760,000, I think the math is clear.

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Posted by Qwerty
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 24, 2009 at 1:53 pm

Teacher salaries absolutely should not be raised. The problem as I've stated in numerous threads is that the state got drunk on the tax revenue brought in by the dotcoms over a decade ago. When many of those companies went under, the state did not bring their spending down to normal levels. My point is that their salaries should never have been raised to their present level if the state were in control of the budget over the last 10 years.

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Posted by PW Reader
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 24, 2009 at 3:21 pm

To Frank:
d) avoid the fact that pay averages $94K per year for 9 months of work. (your quote)

I believe your $94K figure is misleading. The teachers' benefit package is part of this total - the alleged $94K is not all salary. In addition, teachers must not only have longevity, but take additional course work (approved units) to move to those salary steps. This is often at their own expense during the summer months.

Also, to be at the $94K (salary + benefits) step, you would have to have been a teacher in Pleasanton for over 19 years (or a minumum 13 years plus 7 years experience transferred from another district) and have 75 semester units over your bachelor's degree. A full time student generally carries 15 units per semester so that is the equivalent of 2.5 years of full time work. Presuming the graduate school (5th year) gives a teacher 30 semester hours, it generally takes 9 more summers @ 5 units per summer to get to the top column. A new teacher would start at $55,646 including benefits.

Here is the link to the PUSD Certificated (Teachers') Salary Schedule:

Web Link

I don't believe that the $94K average is correct since there are many teachers with < 10 years and < 45 semester hours over their BA degree.

(In case you are wondering, I am not a teacher and neither is anyone in my immediate family.)

Do you have other facts to support your $94K "average" presumption?

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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 24, 2009 at 3:28 pm

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Here's a link to a screenshot of Ed-Data showing Average Teacher Salary for 2007-2008. Web Link

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Posted by PW Reader
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 24, 2009 at 4:06 pm

From the PUSD website, under Certificated Personnel Benefits:

Certificated and Management employees may purchase medical and dental coverage through a District-approved outside administrator.

So the average salary shown on Ed-Join is not $94K, but rather $81.5 which has to include the cost of employee purchased benefits. Typically medical and dental coverage through a school district plan for a family would cost at least $1200 per month for Kaiser or similar HMO plan and Delta Dental.

If you check Livermore Unified School District's website, the salary schedule notes:

*The salary schedule does not include the District's $10,000 contribution to health benefits

Web Link

I am extremely familiar with the Ed-Join site and the fact that the data and statistics on its website are not always comparing apples with apples. For example, you would need to add $10,000 to the Livermore District average salary to get a valid comparison between these two districts.

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