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Alameda County Public Health delays reopening timeline indefinitely

Officials cite increases in positive COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations; county also announces new lead health officer

The Alameda County Public Health Department announced Monday that it will postpone indefinitely its reopening timeline for businesses that had been on track to return in July, citing the need to better contain the COVID-19 pandemic amid recent upticks in local cases and hospitalizations.

The postponement means ACPHD will now keep closed businesses and activities such as indoor dining, salons and barber shops, pools and professional sports without fans -- all of which had been scheduled to reopen by early- to mid-July.

The move also affects future phases of reopenings, such as those to include schools, bars, personal services, gyms, indoor museums and gatherings of up to 99 people.

"Given recent increases in COVID-19 case and hospitalization rates in our county and region, we are temporarily pausing our reopening plans," ACPHD officials said in a statement Monday afternoon.

"We recognize the multifaceted challenges presented by a slow reopening and are grateful for the sustained effort and sacrifices made by our residents and businesses," they added. "As the pandemic evolves, we will need to remain flexible and nimble in our response. We all play a part in safely reopening our communities and protecting people at high risk for COVID-19 infection and death."

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The announcement of ACPHD hitting "pause" came several hours before the department confirmed its leader Dr. Erica Pan -- the public face and voice behind the county's COVID-19 shelter order and related decisions -- is leaving Alameda County for a position with the state government.

Pan's top deputy, Dr. Nicholas J. Moss, will take the reins as the county's interim health officer effective Tuesday.

Alameda County's COVID-19 case rate has increased to 71.1 per 100,000 people (up 7.9) over the past seven days, according to ACPHD.

The public health agency also reported seeing a daily increase in COVID-19 hospitalizations since last week, following a period of daily decreases.

ACPHD reported that as of Sunday, there had been a total of 5,762 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 133 deaths countywide. Highs by community included Oakland (2,252), Hayward (963), and Fremont and San Leandro (276 each).

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As for the Tri-Valley, Livermore had 150 cases, Pleasanton had 99 cases and Dublin had 49 cases, as of Sunday. The Veterans Affairs Department confirmed on Monday that one COVID-19 death involved a resident in the Livermore Community Living Center, under the Palo Alto VA Health Care System.

Santa Rita Jail in Dublin, which is kept in a separate statistical category, had 60 cases and Sunol had fewer than 10.

"We are concerned by the increase in local cases, disproportionate impact on communities of color, local impact of the outbreak at San Quentin State Prison, and the alarming disease trends we see in counties that have opened at a faster rate," ACPHD officials said.

"This week and next will be critical for assessing the impact of activities authorized to resume in Alameda County on June 19th, and we will continue to closely monitor our data to inform next steps regarding reopening and attestation," they added.

And the department will be doing that analysis with a new leader.

Pan, the county's interim health officer since July 2018, has been appointed as the state epidemiologist and deputy director overseeing the Center for Infectious Diseases at the California Department of Public Health, Gov. Gavin Newsom announced on Monday.

"I'm thankful for the opportunity to have served Alameda County for the past nine years, and grateful for the community’s support of the dramatic measures we had to take to slow the spread of COVID19 during these unprecedented times," Pan said in a statement released through ACPHD late Monday afternoon.

"There has never been a more challenging time to be a public health officer, yet I look forward to the honor of serving to help lead this work more broadly statewide," she added. "I leave here proud of the work our Public Health Department does every day to keep our communities healthy and safe, and confident in Dr. Moss’ ability to continue our plan to address the complex issues of this pandemic."

Moss, the county's new interim health officer, has served as deputy county health officer and acting director of the Division of Communicable Disease Control and Prevention since earlier this year.

He joined the department in April 2013 to lead the HIV/STD Section to provide oversight and planning for HIV care, build sustainable funding for HIV prevention, and integrate HIV and STD work in the department, officials said.

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Alameda County Public Health delays reopening timeline indefinitely

Officials cite increases in positive COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations; county also announces new lead health officer

by / Pleasanton Weekly

Uploaded: Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 2:02 pm
Updated: Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 9:58 pm

The Alameda County Public Health Department announced Monday that it will postpone indefinitely its reopening timeline for businesses that had been on track to return in July, citing the need to better contain the COVID-19 pandemic amid recent upticks in local cases and hospitalizations.

The postponement means ACPHD will now keep closed businesses and activities such as indoor dining, salons and barber shops, pools and professional sports without fans -- all of which had been scheduled to reopen by early- to mid-July.

The move also affects future phases of reopenings, such as those to include schools, bars, personal services, gyms, indoor museums and gatherings of up to 99 people.

"Given recent increases in COVID-19 case and hospitalization rates in our county and region, we are temporarily pausing our reopening plans," ACPHD officials said in a statement Monday afternoon.

"We recognize the multifaceted challenges presented by a slow reopening and are grateful for the sustained effort and sacrifices made by our residents and businesses," they added. "As the pandemic evolves, we will need to remain flexible and nimble in our response. We all play a part in safely reopening our communities and protecting people at high risk for COVID-19 infection and death."

The announcement of ACPHD hitting "pause" came several hours before the department confirmed its leader Dr. Erica Pan -- the public face and voice behind the county's COVID-19 shelter order and related decisions -- is leaving Alameda County for a position with the state government.

Pan's top deputy, Dr. Nicholas J. Moss, will take the reins as the county's interim health officer effective Tuesday.

Alameda County's COVID-19 case rate has increased to 71.1 per 100,000 people (up 7.9) over the past seven days, according to ACPHD.

The public health agency also reported seeing a daily increase in COVID-19 hospitalizations since last week, following a period of daily decreases.

ACPHD reported that as of Sunday, there had been a total of 5,762 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 133 deaths countywide. Highs by community included Oakland (2,252), Hayward (963), and Fremont and San Leandro (276 each).

As for the Tri-Valley, Livermore had 150 cases, Pleasanton had 99 cases and Dublin had 49 cases, as of Sunday. The Veterans Affairs Department confirmed on Monday that one COVID-19 death involved a resident in the Livermore Community Living Center, under the Palo Alto VA Health Care System.

Santa Rita Jail in Dublin, which is kept in a separate statistical category, had 60 cases and Sunol had fewer than 10.

"We are concerned by the increase in local cases, disproportionate impact on communities of color, local impact of the outbreak at San Quentin State Prison, and the alarming disease trends we see in counties that have opened at a faster rate," ACPHD officials said.

"This week and next will be critical for assessing the impact of activities authorized to resume in Alameda County on June 19th, and we will continue to closely monitor our data to inform next steps regarding reopening and attestation," they added.

And the department will be doing that analysis with a new leader.

Pan, the county's interim health officer since July 2018, has been appointed as the state epidemiologist and deputy director overseeing the Center for Infectious Diseases at the California Department of Public Health, Gov. Gavin Newsom announced on Monday.

"I'm thankful for the opportunity to have served Alameda County for the past nine years, and grateful for the community’s support of the dramatic measures we had to take to slow the spread of COVID19 during these unprecedented times," Pan said in a statement released through ACPHD late Monday afternoon.

"There has never been a more challenging time to be a public health officer, yet I look forward to the honor of serving to help lead this work more broadly statewide," she added. "I leave here proud of the work our Public Health Department does every day to keep our communities healthy and safe, and confident in Dr. Moss’ ability to continue our plan to address the complex issues of this pandemic."

Moss, the county's new interim health officer, has served as deputy county health officer and acting director of the Division of Communicable Disease Control and Prevention since earlier this year.

He joined the department in April 2013 to lead the HIV/STD Section to provide oversight and planning for HIV care, build sustainable funding for HIV prevention, and integrate HIV and STD work in the department, officials said.

Comments

kate
Ruby Hill
on Jun 29, 2020 at 2:34 pm
kate , Ruby Hill
on Jun 29, 2020 at 2:34 pm
31 people like this

glad alamedas taking precautions. we don’t want to end up like florida or texas and potentially have to close businesses that already opened which would be even worse. i know a few people may be angry but those same people don’t even support local businesses and the economy and just want to throw parties instead. to help out salons and other smal businesses purchase gift cards!


Bob
Laguna Oaks
on Jun 29, 2020 at 2:52 pm
Bob, Laguna Oaks
on Jun 29, 2020 at 2:52 pm
27 people like this

Good call. This virus isn't going anywhere, unless we all do our part (masks, social distance, etc.)


Peter
Ponderosa
on Jun 29, 2020 at 3:59 pm
Peter, Ponderosa
on Jun 29, 2020 at 3:59 pm
48 people like this

Anything the liberals can do to stain the re-election of our President is disgusting and unfolding before our eyes.


Downtown Realist
Downtown
on Jun 29, 2020 at 4:02 pm
Downtown Realist , Downtown
on Jun 29, 2020 at 4:02 pm
24 people like this

Actually Kate, that seems extremely presumptuous of you to say something so ridiculous, the ones that may be angry, don’t even support local businesses or the economy Really? Clueless!


Martha
Downtown
on Jun 29, 2020 at 4:05 pm
Martha , Downtown
on Jun 29, 2020 at 4:05 pm
21 people like this

BTW, Kate.. I’m sure many hope you stay in your gated community and don’t be surprised if you are blacklisted from a few parties once this is over.


Ron
Pleasanton Heights
on Jun 29, 2020 at 4:26 pm
Ron, Pleasanton Heights
on Jun 29, 2020 at 4:26 pm
35 people like this

Alameda County is not mapping its "Covid-19 Spikes" with any degree of common sense. It is putting out a blanket order for the whole county, when it should be pausing or delaying the affected cities. The Tri-Valley is fortunate to be one of the areas that has been doing things correctly which has kept our counts low. Sometimes I wonder if this is politically motivated by Pelosi's nephew (Gov Newsome)? There are going to be a lot of people disgusted by this recent pull back as they should be...


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 4:27 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 4:27 pm
42 people like this

This isn’t going anywhere. We need to learn to live with it.

Unless the death rate or hospitalization is going up, we should be opening up


Charlie
Amador Estates
on Jun 29, 2020 at 4:31 pm
Charlie, Amador Estates
on Jun 29, 2020 at 4:31 pm
15 people like this

Yes Kate - we all feel a rich person like you won't be able to get your nails done.......


Rose
Parkside
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:04 pm
Rose, Parkside
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:04 pm
46 people like this

It amazes me how little mention of the massive demonstrations' effect on the current numbers - didn't we all expect this to follow right about now? It's difficult to assess the effect strictly from opening vs the huge number of people involved in those protests. Also, where is the touted 'tracking system' that is supposed to be in place? If someone who attended a protest/large gathering tests positive or becomes ill, shouldn't it be reported to the county and a public service announcement to go out to warn anyone who was at the same place?


125
Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:15 pm
125, Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:15 pm
24 people like this

Can we please keep politics out of the pandemic? This is a public health issue. Please just wear a mask outdoors and keep your physical distance. Let's focus on flattening the curve enough so that the restrictions will be lifted and re-opening can continue.


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:21 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:21 pm
35 people like this

125 - no . You cannot. You can be on either side of caution regardless of political affiliation, but you can’t ignore that this is an election year and democrats will absolutely leverage the situation for election purposes.

Republicans would have done the same.

So no, you can’t ignore the political implication


Jo
Parkside
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:27 pm
Jo, Parkside
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:27 pm
7 people like this

Ron,

I wish you were correct, but Livermore, Pleasanton and to a lesser extent Dublin have all spiked. Especially Livermore.. go to Livermore coronavirus page. They have a good line graph chart showing the spike. Before the protest/rallies I would have agreed with you.


Byedolla
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:35 pm
Byedolla, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:35 pm
26 people like this

Unless our Mayor fights for our businesses the clueless liberal Alameda county bureaucrats will keep us shut down till the election in Nov. Start signing recall paperwork and have the Alameda County Supervisor and Alameda county Public Heath supervisor REMOVED. BTW Pleasanton will continue to loose business and tax dollars to Danville and Contra Costa County till they take a stand and reopen based on OUR low numbers!


Ennis
Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:35 pm
Ennis, Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:35 pm
Like this comment

FYI...
June 29, 2020

3:30 p.m.
SoCal county's ICUs are 99% full as coronavirus cases surge

Health officials warned on Monday that in coming weeks there may not be enough hospital beds to accommodate patients as COVID-19 cases surge in Los Angeles County. Officials said hospitalizations are on the rise and transmission of the virus has increased.

1:25 p.m.
Alameda County hits pause on further reopening after rise in COVID-19 cases

Given the recent increases in COVID-19 cases and hospitalization rates in the region, Alameda County announced they are temporarily pausing reopening plans. The county health department says this means the county will be extending the timeline for the next phase of reopening and pulling back the request for the Board of Supervisors to support a Variance Attestation on June 30.
Officials say Alameda County's case rate per 100,000 people has increased from 63.2 to 71.1 over the past 7 days. Daily hospitalizations were decreasing through June 22, but since then the county has seen a daily increase in hospitalizations.
"We are concerned by the increase in local cases, disproportionate impact on communities of color, local impact of the outbreak at San Quentin State Prison, and the alarming disease trends we see in counties that have opened at a faster rate. This week and next will be critical for assessing the impact of activities authorized to resume in Alameda County on June 19th, and we will continue to closely monitor our data to inform next steps regarding reopening and attestation," the release said.

1 p.m.
More than 1,000 inmates at San Quentin State Prison test positive

As of Monday morning, 1,011 inmates have tested positive for COVID-19 at San Quentin State Prison in Marin County, Gov. Gavin Newsom said in a press conference. That's a huge jump from the numbers reported by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation Saturday: 615 inmates and 89 staff members.
He also explained his decision to order eight counties to shut down bars over the weekend. Full story here.

10:30 a.m.
Contra Costa County delays reopening after hospitalizations jump 75%

Contra Costa County is delaying the reopening of bars, gyms, indoor dining, museums and more after COVID-19 hospitalizations rose sharply. The businesses were originally scheduled to reopen on July 1.
The seven-day average of hospitalized patients rose 75% since June 15, the county said in a press release. The number of new cases went up from an average 38 per day to 87 per day.
"We are also seeing a shift with more young people testing positive. In June, 55 percent of people testing positive in Contra Costa were 40 years and younger, compared to 38 percent for that group in April. It's a sign that younger people are playing a major role in driving the increase in new cases and potentially infecting vulnerable individuals," reads the press release.


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:36 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:36 pm
10 people like this

So newsom said 50% of us would likely get this. “ flattening the curve” was not to eliminate or stop spikes, it was only meant to match hospital capacity.

Why are we going for perfection? Or better yet what is the hospital capacity line we need to track to?

Infection rate is interesting, but why is anyone surprised? What is the rate that dictates hospital problems?


Sick
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:54 pm
Sick, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:54 pm
41 people like this

Los Angels County ICUs are full because gruesome Newsom forced them to take migrant workers with Coronavirus from Imperial county and Mexico. He also made John Muir Hospital take these non county residents...DEMOCRATS ARE MAKING THIS WORSE ON PURPOSE. Vote them out in Nov!


Jake Waters
Birdland
on Jun 29, 2020 at 6:24 pm
Jake Waters, Birdland
on Jun 29, 2020 at 6:24 pm
36 people like this

Oh, I was waiting for this extension. Rioters, demonstrators, looters, and more get praised for exercising their first amendment; we, who follow the rules, get treated like children. An amazing dichotomy.

Well, I for one am going to join the ranks of the demonstrators and exercise my first amendment through civil disobedience. No mask when outdoors. I’ll wear them when shopping. The mask requirement is without science. Are all of you changing your paper masks every hour that you wear them? Your cloth masks too are just a civic symbol. Even if you have a N95 you have to clean or change those out. Most of you wad them up and put them in the console of your car, your back pocket, and various other places in your home. I’m not judging, I’m ‘just sayin’. And why 6 feet? Why not a football field length? Is six feet a magical number. No science.

We have lived with bacteria, viruses and more every day. Our biggest defense is a healthy immune system. Exercise, good diet, rest, and more. I’ve worked out in a petri dish of an environment called ‘the gym’ my entire life. A haven for bacteria, viruses, and more. Most of us wash our hands and don’t touch our face- no illness. But, they close down the gyms.

Have you seen the numbers on suicide? Boy, thank God they made liquor stores, weed dispensers, and abortion clinics exempt, because those nasty gyms, nail and hair salons will kill you.

And don’t come down on Florida to hard. They have ‘better numbers’ than NY- though they have two crack pots running the place with De Blasio and Cuomo.

This is all about the election. It’s an election year if many of you have forgotten. And because it is an election it will get worse. They hate Trump so bad they have to destroy all that he has helped produce, and keep us home in order to institute ’mail-in-ballots.’

I guess see you next year, because that is how long we are going to be doing this. Gavin wants his magic serum that will have the effect of probably 50% or less. By then the virus will have mutated. Wash your hands people, with soap and water-it’s better than that antibacterial goo that dries out your skin.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 6:40 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 6:40 pm
23 people like this

Once again we have anti-vaxxer "Jake Waters" babbling nonsense.

Get your flu shot. Wear a mask. Stay away from crazy conspiracy theories. Bill Gates is not trying to implant you with a tracking chip. Sandy Hook was real. The earth is round.


Jake Waters
Birdland
on Jun 29, 2020 at 6:59 pm
Jake Waters, Birdland
on Jun 29, 2020 at 6:59 pm
21 people like this

@BobB
That’s Bob. He lives in his basement, in the dark, with gloves and masks. He is not a doctor or a scientist. But he does play one on blogs. He repeats over and over and over and over again the same thing. I like BobB, because he makes me laugh and forget this horrible experience that we should not have been subjected to.

Take the red pill BobB.


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 7:01 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 7:01 pm
12 people like this

Nothing crazy in his post their BobB.

No one is stopping you from wearing a mask BobB, we just want the same freedom of choice to make an informed decision vs being mandated artificial virtue signaling requirements.


Olorin
Val Vista
on Jun 29, 2020 at 7:31 pm
Olorin, Val Vista
on Jun 29, 2020 at 7:31 pm
26 people like this

"Can we please keep politics out of the pandemic"...I think the ship sailed on that issue when the democrats decided to use it as a weapon against the President. Pelosi couldn't let that opportunity go to waste. She marched around Chinatown in SF telling people to go out to dinner to celebrate the new year and then claimed the President didn't act quickly enough. It's an election year, everything is politics.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 7:57 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 7:57 pm
16 people like this

Wear your mask. Get your flu shot. It isn't a choice.

And go read what Jake says about vaccination and Bill Gates on other threads to see what he is all about.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 7:58 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 7:58 pm
5 people like this

@PP,

Don't wear a mask, get thrown out. It is the law.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 8:02 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 8:02 pm
13 people like this

Don't be a coward. Wear a mask.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 8:06 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 8:06 pm
19 people like this

Making a political statement by not wearing a mask and not social distancing is just ignorant.

It bears repeating.


Michael Austin
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 8:18 pm
Michael Austin, Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 8:18 pm
4 people like this

A new virus recently surfaced in China.

It is a strain of flu and is carried by pigs.
It is not Swine flu, it is "NEW".

Concern is, it could mutate further and spread easily to humans.
Humans have little or no immunity against this new virus.

Those researching this new virus are stating, "this is the next Pandemic".

This article is widely circulated through international media.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 8:36 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 8:36 pm
10 people like this

Michael Austin,

I saw that about the new flu virus, and that is definitely something to keep an eye on.

Here is a BBC article.

Web Link


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 8:54 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 8:54 pm
11 people like this

Some may not wear a mask for political reasons, personally I think that isn’t a good reason.

I don’t wear one outside because there is zero supporting evidence to its impact on contribution to actual transmission and the primary source of transmission is active infection, which we’ve primarily identified and people are self isolating (as I would if o were sick). The asymptotic transmission is rare / low / unquantified.


Michael Austin
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 9:05 pm
Michael Austin, Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 9:05 pm
18 people like this

I was in Beijing 2002 when SARS erupted.

I like everyone else wore a mask.

I was never infected with SARRS and people in my inner circle were never infected with the SARS.

I will wear a mask until there is a vaccination that will protect me.

Pleasanton parent, I do not care what you do.

As a parent you have a responsibility to protect your children, by way of personal hygiene, training, education that protects your children, irregardless of your personal opinion and choice to be reckless and careless with your personal hygiene.


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 9:41 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 9:41 pm
11 people like this

Michael are you suggesting the population density and number of contacts with individuals walking outside in Pleasanton is equivalent to that of Beijing? Really? Did you also happen to observe the general differences in personal space in Beijing? People are packed front to back in all lines.

So yes. I will educate my kids to be critical thinkers, to understand the mechanics of the things they are being told and not blindly follow directions that, 1. Are completely inconsistent 2. Are not backed with fact, but instead fear and 3. Weigh probability with impact.

In dense population areas like subways, absolutely makes sense, airlines - completely get it.....outside in Pleasanton. No.

I support your right to choose a different approach, please support mine.


Michael Austin
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 9:48 pm
Michael Austin, Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 9:48 pm
14 people like this

I achnowledge your response as a dysfunctional parent pleading for help!


Fred
Downtown
on Jun 29, 2020 at 10:25 pm
Fred, Downtown
on Jun 29, 2020 at 10:25 pm
29 people like this

It's always the same with these stories:

1.) A few normal people
2.) Pleasanton Parent, Jake Waters, and Michael Austin spouting dumb trash that would embarrass anybody with an iota of self-awareness or critical thinking akills.

I'm just waiting for DanHK and Kathleen to jump on and give their two cents. Jesus Christ.


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 10:38 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 29, 2020 at 10:38 pm
14 people like this

Forums never fail, “agree with me or be shamed!!!!”

Diversity of thought and debate is acceptable when it’s liberal agenda, it’s “dumb and stupid” when it’s counter to that.

Clear indicator when you have no basis for your argument- you resort to name calling.

I love it.


BukLau
Avila
on Jun 29, 2020 at 10:44 pm
BukLau, Avila
on Jun 29, 2020 at 10:44 pm
28 people like this

Clown media says giant protests (violating social distancing) don't increase cases, yet cloth masks do?

What was the point of social distancing the past 4 months then?


buklau
Avila
on Jun 29, 2020 at 11:17 pm
buklau, Avila
on Jun 29, 2020 at 11:17 pm
20 people like this

Clown media says giant protests (violating social distancing) don't increase cases, yet cloth masks stops the virus spread?

What was the point of social distancing the past 4 months then?


tim
Amador Estates
on Jun 30, 2020 at 7:55 am
tim, Amador Estates
on Jun 30, 2020 at 7:55 am
8 people like this

obey you're overlords.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:55 am
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:55 am
9 people like this

@buklau,

Just wear a mask. Is that so hard?


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 9:29 am
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 9:29 am
8 people like this

BobB why is it so hard to accept some people don’t want to? No one is saying you can’t.

New article today stating most people infected don’t spread it.....

Wear your mask if you want BobB, I’ll follow the science and probability/impact to determine my actions.

Web Link


Charlie
Amador Estates
on Jun 30, 2020 at 9:59 am
Charlie, Amador Estates
on Jun 30, 2020 at 9:59 am
14 people like this

Anybody who has been paying attention knows the follow is true - read the CDC website:
1) Maintaining social distancing (> 6 ft) is the best way from either not catching the disease or giving the disease to somebody else
2) Wearing a mask when you can't maintain social distancing (> 6ft) prevents you from spreading the disease to someone else.

If you are not accepting these two facts, you are in a state of denial, using not wearing a mask as a political statement or just don't care about others in your community.

Yes, you have a choice about wearing a mask.

Your choice is demonstrating your true character - either you care about this or not.


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 11:03 am
Pleasanton Parent, Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 11:03 am
8 people like this

Again with the shaming.

"not caring"
"state of denial"

If I'm not sick, and I'm in public, I'm not spreading it.
If I'm sick, I should stay home, that would be the most responsible thing to do.

What's more concerning is the lack of direction based on known data with most practical modes on transmission, at risk groups, and practical solutions that address the original scope of the problem - flatten the curve, not "prevent the curve".

Oh yeah, and lets not forget the complete tanking of the economy and millions being put out of work. Why don't you ask those that are facing that situation if they'd rather risk getting sick with something that 99.99% of people recover from in under two weeks or continue to watch their livelihood evaporate. Kids loosing out on education. And then politicians on both sides politicizing the issue only highlighting their incompetence.


Charlie
Amador Estates
on Jun 30, 2020 at 11:13 am
Charlie, Amador Estates
on Jun 30, 2020 at 11:13 am
6 people like this

Hit a nerve, huh?

It's all how you take it - you can decide if you are ashamed of your own actions or not.

Only you can determine that.

And only you can determine if you care about what others think of you and your actions or lack of action.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 11:20 am
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 11:20 am
9 people like this

PP,

Please quit with the BS statistics. The hospitalization rate of covid-19 is nowhere near as low as .01%, much less the 2-week recovery rate. There is no report anywhere that says it's anywhere near that.


Charlie
Amador Estates
on Jun 30, 2020 at 11:21 am
Charlie, Amador Estates
on Jun 30, 2020 at 11:21 am
2 people like this

BTW - I'm not advocating what this forum says.

I do advocate reading the CDC website and understanding their recommendations.

Or at least educate yourself from reputable medical / health sources and take appropriate actions. Which is what I quoted.


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 11:39 am
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 11:39 am
4 people like this

BobB,
That would your bs statistic, I said recovery (as in not dead), you said hospitalization rate.

But while you’re on that- what is the targeted hospitalization rate? Oh there isn’t one? No goal post to match towards? Data analysis 101 my friend, just because something changes doesn’t make it good or bad, you need to have established targets to measure against.


Kathleen Ruegsegger
Vintage Hills
on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:11 pm
Kathleen Ruegsegger, Vintage Hills
on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:11 pm
1 person likes this

Hi Fred, I have said everything on this topic. Thanks for the invite though.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:16 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:16 pm
5 people like this

No PP, it is your BS statistic. The infection fatality rate is much higher than .01%. It is much higher than that. You were claiming a 2 week recovery rate of 99.99%. That is off by orders of magnitude.

Quit with the BS statistics. That isn't even close to correct. No one has found numbers like that anywhere. I would ask for a source, but of course you couldn't find one.


clean comfort
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:17 pm
clean comfort, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:17 pm
2 people like this

fyi You can get a haircut in contra costa. You schedule over the phone but be sure to ask the cost - some have really jacked the price.


clean comfort
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:26 pm
clean comfort, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:26 pm
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Regarding hospitalization rate- from CDC
fyi - if disputing a statistic, should provide more than just the dispute.

Jun 26, 2020 · The overall cumulative COVID-19 associated hospitalization rate is 98.4 per 100,000, with the highest rates in people 65 years of age and older (297.6 per 100,000) followed by people 50-64 years (148.6 per 100,000).


wow
another community
on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:31 pm
wow, another community
on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:31 pm
7 people like this

I am glad I don't live in Ptown. You people will fight over anything. Just stay home as much as possible and shut up. Talking helps spread all diseases, let alone shouting. What a bunch of children.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 1:20 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 1:20 pm
6 people like this

@clean comfort,

Exactly. PP's statistics were so far off that they didn't even really need to be challenged. There's no report anywhere that says the infection fatality rate is anywhere near as low as .01%. Typical estimates are between .3 and .8%. PP is exhibiting the same reckless disregard for facts as a used car salesman.


Me
Mohr Park
on Jun 30, 2020 at 1:29 pm
Me, Mohr Park
on Jun 30, 2020 at 1:29 pm
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The virus is not going to effect the elections. Agent Orange is not going to be elected and he knows it! HE CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH and neither can any of the narrow minded conservatives! Wake up!


Hidinbiden
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 3:34 pm
Hidinbiden, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 3:34 pm
13 people like this

And HIDIN’ BIDEN will stay the Marxist puppet hiding in the basement, refusing to debate without his teleprompter and the communists who are really in charge telling him what to say. I’ll take a President with a spray tan that puts AMERICA FIRST any day!


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:04 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:04 pm
4 people like this

I thought we were talking about infection fatality rate for COVID-19?


Wondering
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:08 pm
Wondering, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:08 pm
4 people like this

The number of Pleasanton cases of COVID just rose from 99 to 119 in one day. 20 cases in one day. Wow.

I'm wondering whether masks work at all. To rise by 20 in one day is the largest increase I can remember.

I think it would just be better to return to shelter in place. Perhaps wearing a mask does absolutely nothing to prevent the spread of COVID.


Rick
another community
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:16 pm
Rick, another community
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:16 pm
9 people like this

If YOU feel like you are in danger of getting sick, then YOU should shelter in place, wear a mask and social distance yourself and let the rest of us get on with our lives.


Jo
Parkside
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:27 pm
Jo, Parkside
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:27 pm
3 people like this

shutting down again to March levels aint gonna happen. Ship has sailed.


Jake Waters
Birdland
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:39 pm
Jake Waters, Birdland
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:39 pm
6 people like this

Unlike many of you, I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on the blogs. But many of you scare the heck out of me with your sheep like behavior, your ignorance about the data, and your eyes closed mentality about what is happening in front of you. I am going to do my best to get busy living under these terrible times.

BobB- take your red pill please.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:42 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 4:42 pm
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And the infection fatality rate is ...


Wombat
Downtown
on Jun 30, 2020 at 5:26 pm
Wombat, Downtown
on Jun 30, 2020 at 5:26 pm
6 people like this

Wondering wrote "The number of Pleasanton cases of COVID just rose from 99 to 119 in one day. 20 cases in one day. Wow."

Total number of Pleasantonians killed thus far by COVID-19: ZERO.

Oh, the carnage. Wow.

Let's shut down more businesses and throw more people out of work and further damage our children's school education because clearly this is unacceptable!


Michael Austin
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 5:44 pm
Michael Austin, Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 5:44 pm
4 people like this

Those twenty new infections with COVID-19 probably did not practice social distancing and probably did not wear a mask.


jo
Parkside
on Jun 30, 2020 at 6:17 pm
jo, Parkside
on Jun 30, 2020 at 6:17 pm
9 people like this

the 40 new infections probably attended rallies and protests


Wondering
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 6:23 pm
Wondering, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 6:23 pm
2 people like this

The problem is that no one knows how many of those people (20) that were infected in Pleasanton the last 24 hours with COVID wore masks, etc. and practiced social distancing and even with that, came down with COVID.

Perhaps wearing masks does not help in containing the infection. Also since Alameda County has not listed how many have died by city, there is no way of knowing how many with COVID have died per city in Alameda County.

Some articles say the virus has mutated so it is far more contagious than when it started.

If these rates continue, I am sure that the governor will again place the State in shelter in place mode.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 6:25 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 6:25 pm
8 people like this

Arizona is now in crisis standards of care and hospitals are hitting capacity. Let's flatten the curve here so we don't end up like them. Wear your mask. Socially distance.


A Lotta good
Laguna Oaks
on Jun 30, 2020 at 7:07 pm
A Lotta good, Laguna Oaks
on Jun 30, 2020 at 7:07 pm
3 people like this

A lotta good the mayors' letter did. So much for the logical regional approach. Yes, know the trivalley cases have bumped but nothing like across the hill. Maybe it was the opening stat (76 days = 1/2 year)that lost credibility?


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 7:43 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 7:43 pm
7 people like this

BobB you’re proving my point.

If the death rate is 0.3 to 0.8% of the confirmed infections and we know far more people have covid than tests indicate, what happens to that death rate? Goes down huh?


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 7:56 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 7:56 pm
4 people like this

@PP,

Look up IFR (infection fatality rate). It has a very specific meaning. You're claiming it is .01%. It is actually nowhere near that.


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:07 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:07 pm
4 people like this

BobB

Answer my questions, let’s see where we disagree so we can find common ground:

True or False - more people have covid than tests reported indicate?

True or False - those not tested that die of covid related issues will be counted in the covid death rate as they will test for covid post Morten?

True or False - those that do not get tested, and have covid, and recover on their own are not counted in the infection rate or death count?

True or False - if the denominator gets bigger and the numerator gets smaller or stays the same the overall percentage goes down?


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:13 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:13 pm
14 people like this

IFR tells you how likely you are to die if you are infected. It is different from the case fatality rate which says, of the known cases, what percent died.

Do you understand the difference?


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:37 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:37 pm
6 people like this

I’ll accept your continued dismissal to fact based discussion, truly the fundamentals of math, as passive agreement to what I’m saying.

Fact: The actual death rate as a result of total infected population is far less than reported as a significant portion of the population is not included in the denominator.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:46 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:46 pm
12 people like this

PP,

You said "with something that 99.99% of people recover from in under two weeks". Do you not see how that is completely wrong?

That implies an INFECTION FATALITY RATE of .01%. That is wildly off the mark. Estimates have the IFR between .3% and .8%. That is the infection fatality rate, not the case fatality rate.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:48 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:48 pm
14 people like this

Do you really not understand where you went wrong or are you just trying to be a jerk?


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:53 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 30, 2020 at 8:53 pm
6 people like this

Where your mask if you like BobB.
Math is real.
Be blessed.


john
California Somerset
on Jun 30, 2020 at 9:18 pm
john, California Somerset
on Jun 30, 2020 at 9:18 pm
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Stupid article. Can it be anymore vague on when it has been postpone?


Elderly Shelterer
Vintage Hills
on Jul 1, 2020 at 12:37 am
Elderly Shelterer, Vintage Hills
on Jul 1, 2020 at 12:37 am
10 people like this

Good grief, Charlie Brown! What happened to "we're all in this together"? Why all the sniping and back-biting about an enemy that is non-selective in its victims? It gets Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Green Party and anybody else just the same! Go back and read what you've written. Would you be proud to show it to you kids and say, "see how clever Mommy or Daddy is?" I really burned that one, didn't I?
What the heck kind of example are you setting for your kids, whose school year is in question as this threat to the health of us all continues? Are you all really that angry at everything and everyone?
We need to work together to combat the pandemic, and all the vitriolic claptrap really is going down a rathole. C'mon, guys and girls, show a little class! If you can't say something nice, just be quiet. Please.


Charlie
Amador Estates
on Jul 1, 2020 at 4:42 am
Charlie, Amador Estates
on Jul 1, 2020 at 4:42 am
13 people like this


Elderly Shelterer

Welcome to the 21st century - the age of "all for me and who cares about anybody else"

The true character of those who say those most vulnerable to the virus should just stay locked up at home so they don't have to inconvenience the rest of the community with wearing a mask when they are less than 6ft from other people.

People like Pleasanton Parent like to say we shouldn't be "shaming" people with comments like this.

The only way this would be "shaming" is if the person saying "no shaming" is feeling guilty about their words and actions.

The way I was raised - I guess the 20th century values from my parents - is that you live in a community and you take actions / behave with the best interest of the community in mind. YOU CARE! (yes PP and others, be ashamed)


Wombat
Downtown
on Jul 1, 2020 at 7:58 am
Wombat, Downtown
on Jul 1, 2020 at 7:58 am
8 people like this

Charlie wrote “ The way I was raised - I guess the 20th century values from my parents - is that you live in a community and you take actions / behave with the best interest of the community in mind. YOU CARE!“

That’s the key question: What is in the best interests of the community? With the sheltering-in-place and other anti-coronavirus policies that have been put into place, we have undoubtedly saved the lives of many of those who are must vulnerable to this virus BUT we have done it at a great cost of throwing over 70 million people out of work thus far, devastating not only their own lives but also those of the families that they support. The result is increased suicides (i.e., “deaths of despair”), drug and alcohol abuse, spousal abuse, etc.. This shouldn’t come as a surprise. You don’t throw over 70 million people out of work without causing a lot of human suffering.

Do you “care” about all those and their families whose lives have been devastated by being thrown into unemployment as a result of the policies which were put into place? If so, why don’t you and others here who are supporting all of these anti-coronavirus policies ever express your concern for them? WHY IS IT THAT WHEN YOU MENTION “CARE” YOU DON’T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THOSE 70 MILLION UNEMPLOYED AND THEIR FAMILIES EVEN EXIST??? It would appear that those 70 million people and their families don’t even enter into your calculations and thoughts when you talk about “care” and what is in “the best interest of the community”.


BobB
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 1, 2020 at 8:23 am
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 1, 2020 at 8:23 am
18 people like this

So how is wearing a mask causing anyone to be "thrown into unemployment"? Why is it so hard to wear a mask?


Elderly Shelterer
Vintage Hills
on Jul 1, 2020 at 8:57 am
Elderly Shelterer, Vintage Hills
on Jul 1, 2020 at 8:57 am
14 people like this

Wombat, it isn't just about the "most vulnerable". That may be the politically correct way to describe it, but try telling my 21-year-old otherwise healthy granddaughter who became infected in her workplace, along with her boyfriend and several others. They wore masks to serve patrons (college students work at places like Olive Garden, you know) who often didn't bother to wear them into the restaurant. Or the others who contracted the virus at the bowling alley nearby.
Don't blame this on us old folks and the government. Place the onus on a virus which has changed and mutated away from the original, less severe inconvenient "flu" bug to one which has no vaccine, debilitates people for a long time...often months...and is yet to be understood.
Tell it to my cousin's husband who was working with her and their son in the family-owned business until he contracted COVID, spent 39 days in hospital and another couple of weeks in rehab getting strong enough to go home to finish recovering, which he is still doing with lingering affects of the disease, and is still unable to work.
Wearing masks has been shown to be effective, as has social distancing. Those policies may not be palatable or comfortable or convenient, but they do work. So just quit acting like it is only the vulnerable who have brought this blight on our communities and realize it's a royal pain in the you-know, but we ALL need to bite the bullet and soldier through. We'll get to the other side, but it's going to take a joint effort for that to happen. Wear the darn mask, wipe the grocery cart handle, wash your hands and stay 6 feet away from me and we'll all be the better for it.


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