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Is San Francisco caught in a "death spiral"?

Uploaded: Jun 8, 2023
This is a tough time to be either a business person or politician in San Francisco.

It’s been well-publicized that the city has a huge budget problem and is the slowest market in the country to recover from the pandemic lockdown. The sorry secret is that it’s unlikely to ever recover.

Nationally, remote work and hybrid schedules have hollowed out job centers everywhere, but it’s far worse in San Francisco where tech companies have had huge footprints of class A office space. The vacancy rate now is about 30% or 35 million square feet as companies shed space, walk away from leases and re-evaluate their needs and costs.

For building owners, the situation is dire. Nationally, owners are getting squeezed between leases , loans that typically reset every 10 years, values that have fallen sharply and interest rates that have skyrocketed as the Federal Reserve has raised them to battle inflation. Some recent transactions have shown just how far values have fallen. Last month, a 22-story building at 350 California sold for 75% less than its asking price in 2021.
Another driver of the San Francisco economy is tourism and the convention business. Tourism, particularly from Asia, has been slow and conventions have gone elsewhere—staying away because of the homeless and drug scene in San Francisco to say nothing of the costs.

That reality led to the East Coast real estate trust that owned the two largest hotels in the city, the Hilton at Union Square and the Parc 55, to walk away from the properties that were secured by a $725 million loan. The trust cited the lack of business travel and the convention business reality as the underlying reasons for the decision. They were valued at $1.56 billion when the loan was made in 2016.

And, then there’s the rapidly deteriorating retail. Union Square, once the shopping hub of the city, is about 14% vacant and Powell Street, with its cable car line, has more vacant storefronts than occupied ones. Throw in that Nordstrom is closing both its showcase store on Market Street and its Nordstrom Rack across the street as well as other national and international retailers not renewing leases and it’s an ugly picture.

San Francisco revenues, be they hotel tax, property tax or sales tax, all are headed south. The city’s budget is about $14 billion and the anticipated shortfall for the next fiscal year is $291 million.

Fortunately, here in the valley, we don’t face most of those challenges, but remote work is having an effect on office buildings here. We’re fortunate to have a strong and expanding health care base here with Stanford ValleyCare, Kaiser, John Muir and Sutter all with significant footprints. Stanford, in particular, is expanding aggressively, buying three buildings in Hacienda Business Park earlier this year.

The big shift for many of us is thinking three or four times about whether we want to venture into San Francisco for a special occasion—that used to be a no-brainer.
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Posted by Heath Gordon, a resident of another community,
on Jun 8, 2023 at 8:37 am

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A very good summation. Covid-19 had a major impact on this dire scenario as it warranted more remote workers, leaving many downtown office buildings vacant.

The homeless problem has also added to the demise of San Francisco as an attractive tourist and convention destination.

> "The city's budget is about $14 billion and the anticipated shortfall for the next fiscal year is $291 million."

It also makes one wonder...if the tax revenue base in San Francisco is on a major decline, how can the city even consider offering $5M reparations to every African American resident residing in the city?


Posted by Marcus Lange, a resident of Walnut Creek,
on Jun 8, 2023 at 9:04 am

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"The city's budget is about $14 billion and the anticipated shortfall for the next fiscal year is $291 million."

"...how can the city even consider offering $5M reparations to every African American resident residing in the city?"

^ There are approximately 55,000 African Americans residing in San Francisco (about 6% of its total population).

If the city were to issue $5M to each black San Francisco resident, the total outlay for this expenditure would come out to around $275B.

How would these reparations be subsidized unless the city were to raise its debt ceiling into the next century?

In order to rejuvenate the tourist and convention business, the mayor needs to resolve the homeless problem and there are no easy solutions outside of rounding-up all of the transients and transporting them to another location, perhaps somewhere in Nevada but far enough away from the more densely populated areas like Washoe (Reno) and Clark (Las Vegas) counties.

The progressive mayor of San Francisco London Breed once advocated defunding the SFPD but now there is a shortage of police officers and hundreds of unfilled vacancies.

As a result, crime is rampant and some retail stores (i.e. Whole Foods and Nordstroms) are closing their doors out of safety concerns for their customers and employees.

San Francisco has become a cesspool and it is no wonder that the city has lost much of its former allure.






Posted by Janet Hogue, a resident of Walnut Creek,
on Jun 8, 2023 at 10:07 am

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For us, other than attending a live Warriors or Giants game there is minimal reason to go into San Francisco.

Venturing into Golden Gate Park, Chinatown, North Beach, the Mission district, Japantown (the Fillmore district) or Union Square is no longer enticing and the Tenderloin district (where we use to dine at Original Joe's and Lehr's Steakery) is now a homeless drug haven with human feces and discarded needles littering the streets and back alleys.

It's no wonder that people don't want to go to parts of San Francisco anymore. These once popular destinations have become the toilet bowl of humanity.


Posted by Robyn Prescott, a resident of another community,
on Jun 8, 2023 at 11:15 am

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Outside of San Francisco, there are very few places in Alameda or Contra Costa counties where one can have a meaningful or significant cultural experience because there is no real culture in any of these regions.


Posted by Christopher Warren, a resident of Danville,
on Jun 8, 2023 at 11:52 am

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Will $5M in reparations per African American resident in San Francisco reduce welfare and food stamp dependencies? Wil it reduce inner city crime?

If so, maybe reparations (of a far lesser amount) are worth considering.

If not, these proposed reparations are just another progressive folly.

The key is to make San Francisco a positive environment in which to live and work.

The homeless population and various criminal activities running rampant in San Francisco will not ensure quality of life or public safety.


Posted by Biff Longley, a resident of another community,
on Jun 8, 2023 at 2:26 pm

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• "Will $5M in reparations per African American resident in San Francisco reduce welfare and food stamp dependencies? Will it reduce inner city crime?"

^ Highly unlikely as these financial resources will most likely be spent on frivolous purchases. There is a term for it and once the money is gone, things will return to the way things are now.

On the other hand and on a positive note, $275 billion dollars in squandered reparations will help stimulate the local economy.

If I were African American and given $5 million dollars, I would purchase a modest home in Danville and encourage other black families to follow suit.


Posted by Carlson Perriman, a resident of another community,
on Jun 8, 2023 at 3:18 pm

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All is not lost in San Francisco.

Vibrant Castro Street and its neighboring streets are a mecca for the LGBTQ+ community as is the Noe Valley neighborhood.

San Francisco still has something for everyone. Just be wary of the underground BART tunnel and its roaming groups of young hoodlums.


Posted by Regina Walsh, a resident of another community,
on Jun 9, 2023 at 11:08 am

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"Just be wary of the underground BART tunnel and its roaming groups of young hoodlums."

^ To curtail racial stereotyping, both BART and the local news outlets are often reluctant to cite the predominant ethnicity of these assailants.

BART can be a dangerous means of public transportation with the Oakland, Fruitvale, and Civic Center (SF) stations reporting the most incidents.


Posted by Jarod Taylor, a resident of Danville,
on Jun 9, 2023 at 1:13 pm

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> Will $5M in reparations per African American resident in San Francisco reduce welfare and food stamp dependencies? Will it reduce inner city crime?

• There should be a conditional stipulation upon receipt of this conceptual $5M payout...no welfare or food stamps for the next three generations and if any felonies are committed during that timeframe, the recipients must repay the $5 million in full.


Posted by Amrit Singh, a resident of Walnut Creek,
on Jun 10, 2023 at 9:04 am

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Concurring. Outside of a few sights, San Francisco leaves much to be desired. Just like India.


Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of San Ramon,
on Jun 10, 2023 at 10:13 am

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@Robyn Prescot

I don't need your meaningful or significant cultural experience that comes out of San Francisco because there is nothing significant that comes out your city. Your mayor and so-called civic leaders have allowed drugs and lawlessness to prosper. Worse, data presented to police commissioners showed the SFPD's full-duty staffing numbers have dropped to 1,537 police officers - an unprecedented low point in recent decades - with nearly 500 of them currently eligible for retirement. Proud of that, Robyn? BTW, Mayor London Breed was a staunch supporter to defund the police, but then reversed her decision and cried to the board of supervisors for more money. What a joke.

In April of this year, only 36% of respondents said they thought Breed was doing a good job, while another 60% said they had the opposite view (4% were unsure). Of those surveyed, 57% said they had an unfavorable view of Breed in general, and most voters �" 73% �" said the city was on the wrong track. I will also include the fact that former District Attorney Chesa Boudin was run out of down because of his progressive policies.

The fact is, San Francisco is a dump. Nothing meaningful comes out of that city anymore. Stores are closing and leaving your city like never before. Tell me: where is all that reparations money going to come from? Is this the culture of SF you so highly tout? Also, how's that drug crisis working for you over there? I see where the SF Sheriff's department is now, after all of these years, allowed to help out along side SFPD. This should have happened years ago, but you mayor was anti-cop and still is.

I will take my “culture less" city over yours all the time. Until SF gets some real leadership, things will only get worse.


Posted by Holly Raines, a resident of Walnut Creek,
on Jun 10, 2023 at 11:34 am

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@Robyn Prescott
Despite San Francisco's apparent shortcomings, at least Malcom Hex admitted that there is nothing culturally redeeming or noteworthy about Contra Costa or Alameda counties. *L*


Posted by Marion Locke, a resident of San Ramon,
on Jun 10, 2023 at 1:18 pm

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" I don't need your meaningful or significant cultural experience that comes out of San Francisco because there is nothing significant that comes out your city." - Malcom Hex

"...at least Malcom Hex admitted that there is nothing culturally redeeming or noteworthy about Contra Costa or Alameda counties. *L*"

Not so...in addition to St. Mary's College in Moraga and Mt. Diablo Junior College, Contra Costa County is blessed with a barber college and a spa/hairdresser school. All that is missing is a university
of chiropracty.

Some counties have other priorities than an academic education.


Posted by Artie Grohl, a resident of another community,
on Jun 10, 2023 at 1:39 pm

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@Holly Raines...I don't think Malcom Hex actually admitted that Contra Costa County lacks culture. He was merely denigrating the current social and cultural atmosphere of San Francisco.

As Marion Locke noted, Contra Costa County is a mecca for advanced degrees in cosmetology and nail management.


Posted by Reese Caldwell, a resident of Danville,
on Jun 10, 2023 at 2:14 pm

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"I don't think Malcom Hex actually admitted that Contra Costa County lacks culture."

• Yes he did but everyone is entitled to their opinion and at least he was being honest.

According to Mr. Hex:
"I will take my “culture less" city over yours all the time."

• Hmmm...are there any beauty colleges in San Ramon as well?


Posted by Bonnie Tate, a resident of San Ramon,
on Jun 10, 2023 at 4:47 pm

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San Ramon hosts a variety of cultural events throughout the year. Like other cities throughout California, we have a downtown artisan street fair during the summer and live music is often presented in the city parks.

No different than Bakersfield and Visalia.


Posted by Leona James, a resident of San Ramon,
on Jun 10, 2023 at 5:31 pm

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If we are referring to the best of local culture, what about the Contra Costa County Fair?

They have livestock exhibits, a carnival, and speedway activities including various onstage musical performances by former headlining acts.

As Malcom Hex succinctly stated, "I will take my “culture less" city over yours all the time."

On a side note, the Alameda County Fair in Pleasanton is a far cry better than the Contra Costa County Fair. Ask any fairgoer.


Posted by Ronald Young, a resident of another community,
on Jun 10, 2023 at 7:02 pm

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While I would never want to live in San Francisco, Alameda County has far more culture and character than Contra Costa County.

Think Berkeley, rural Livermore, the lovely town of Pleasanton, and my city of residence Piedmont.

That said, the minority Republican base in Alameda County also differs from that of Contra Costa County.

It is more refined, less reactionary and reflective of a purer form of traditional Republican political philosophy, what party extremists are trying to whitewash as Republicans In Name Only.

Not so, we are merely being held hostage by a lunatic fringe.


Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of San Ramon,
on Jun 11, 2023 at 9:01 am

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@Holly

Your first problem is that you think a city, town, etc., has to be culturally redeeming. City dweller are you? Or are you just a casual visitor to that dump across the bay? So typical for you on the left to bypass the real issues that the dump by the bay represents. I'll bet you wouldn't dare walk in the Tenderloin at night, would you? See, we in the “culture-less" areas outside of the dump by the bay don't have to worry about that to much.


@Marion

Your shortcomings aside, regarding schools no less... Take a look around and you will find plenty that rival any school in the dump by the bay. Of course, this was not the issue I raised, this was something that you added to bypass the real problems in SF.

I do appreciate the humor and sarcasm from the likes of: Artie, Reese, Leona, and Ronald. However, they too stray from the issues at hand. Not one of you addressed the problems that plague the dump. Faced with the reality of drugs, violence, burglaries, and shoplifting, it must be overwhelming.

Unfortunately, it's a reality you all have to face.


Posted by James Willows, a resident of another community,
on Jun 11, 2023 at 10:55 am

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Comparing what goes on in San Francisco VS quiet bedroom communities on the East Bay is like comparing apples to oranges, no different than comparing Los Angeles to San Fernando Valley.

Besides, the east side of the SF Bay is totally different than the midpeninsula region (Palo Alto, Stanford, Menlo Park etc.) in terms of its political spectrum, local culture, and higher educational options.

San Francisco is a big city and big cities have more urban problems and issues to contend with, things like higher crime rates, vice offenses, drug abuse, and pervasive homelessness.

Cities like Danville, San Ramon, Walnut Creek, and Orinda are smaller, predominantly upper middle class white Republican enclaves whose residents are comfortable living in a sheltered universe light years away from the real world. Los Altos (on the SF midpeninsula) is similar and shares a commonality with this 'blinders on' mentality and perspective.

The answer is simple...if what goes on in San Francisco truly annoys you, then don't venture there. Just stay in San Ramon/Danville and watch Fox News.

The East Bay and San Francisco are two different worlds. Most San Franciscans could care less what goes on in Contra Costa County and Contra Costans should consider taking the same approach.


Posted by MichaelB, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows,
on Jun 11, 2023 at 11:11 am

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"Cities like Danville, San Ramon, Walnut Creek, and Orinda are smaller, predominantly upper middle class white Republican enclaves whose residents are comfortable living in a sheltered universe light years away from the real world. Los Altos (on the SF midpeninsula) is similar and shares a commonality with this 'blinders on' mentality and perspective."

Someone has their blinders on.

Strange how none of these communities that are "predominantly Republican" do not have someone from that same party representing them in the state legislature.


Posted by Kendra Johnson, a resident of another community,
on Jun 11, 2023 at 12:13 pm

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> "Strange how none of these communities that are "predominantly Republican" do not have someone from that same party representing them in the state legislature."

@Michael B.
That is because the Republican white voters in the more affluent neighborhoods are outnumbered by Democratic working class voters and progressive intellectuals.

The wealthier Contra Costa County cities will always be outvoted by the more populous Democrat-leaning cities like Richmond, Antioch, and Martinez. And the same can be said of Los Altos Republican voters who are outnumbered by Democratic voters from San Jose, Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, and Palo Alto.

As for the San Francisco debacle, East Bay residents haven't had much success in cleaning up Oakland and Emeryville. Why not start improving your own local turf before criticizing other cities for their shortcomings?

East Bay residents couldn't even save the Warriors and Raiders from leaving town and are now waving goodbye to the Oakland A's.

Oh well, just build some more warehouses and public storage units to keep the East Bay as a recognizable entity on the map.

Go Giants and Warriors. Welcome back to the better side of the bay!


Posted by Michael Young, a resident of another community,
on Jun 11, 2023 at 2:09 pm

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• "Strange how none of these communities that are "predominantly Republican" do not have someone from that same party representing them in the state legislature."

@Michael B.
•• "That is because the Republican white voters in the more affluent neighborhoods are outnumbered by Democratic working class voters and progressive intellectuals."

^ Add minority voters and people of color who tend to vote the Democrat ticket because few of them can relate to the wealthy white Republican universe unless they are Clarence Thomas, Dr. Ben Carson, or Herschel Walker.

••• "The East Bay and San Francisco are two different worlds. Most San Franciscans could care less what goes on in Contra Costa County and Contra Costans should consider taking the same approach."

^ The SF Bay Area and midpeninsula have more to offer in terms of interest and higher education than Contra Costa County. It does not take Dick Tracy to establish this premise.

••••"East Bay residents haven't had much success in cleaning up Oakland and Emeryville. Why not start improving your own local turf before criticizing other cities for their shortcomings?"

^ Akin to the pot calling the kettle black as it is always easier to point fingers at others.





Posted by MichaelB, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows,
on Jun 11, 2023 at 2:27 pm

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"That is because the Republican white voters in the more affluent neighborhoods are outnumbered by Democratic working class voters and progressive intellectuals."



Or it is because the original claims made about certain areas being "Republican enclaves" (regardless of race) were simply false and were not in the "real world". The Bay Area is predominantly Democrat, even in the suburbs. "Decline to state" are larger than Republicans.

As of February 10, 2019, Orinda has 14,020 registered voters, with 6,692 (47.7%) registered as Democrats, 3,176 (22.7%) registered as Republicans, and 3,662 (26.1%) decline to state voters.

According to the California Secretary of State, as of February 10, 2019, San Ramon has 41,872 registered voters. Of those, 16,518 (39.4%) are registered Democrats, 8,907 (21.3%) are registered Republicans, and 12,147 (29%) have declined to state a political party.

According to the California Secretary of State, as of February 10, 2019, Walnut Creek has 46,149 registered voters. Of those, 21,391 (46.4%) are registered Democrats, 10,708 (23.2%) are registered Republicans, and 12,147 (26.3%) have declined to state a political party.


Posted by Grant Meeker, a resident of another community,
on Jun 11, 2023 at 2:28 pm

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San Francisco has lost its former allure but then again, the East Bay's primary metropolis, Oakland leaves much to be desired as well. Perhaps best to avoid venturing into either one.


Posted by MichaelB, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows,
on Jun 11, 2023 at 3:09 pm

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"As for the San Francisco debacle, East Bay residents haven't had much success in cleaning up Oakland and Emeryville. Why not start improving your own local turf before criticizing other cities for their shortcomings?"


Some of us would like to. But the "progressive intellectuals" that run these communities will not allow any changes. They will regularly accuse (shout down) those concerned about personal safety who want homeless off the streets, criminals prosecuted, immigration laws enforced, etc. as being "intolerant", "racist", "hurting the less fortunate", etc.


Posted by Michael Austin , a resident of Pleasanton Meadows,
on Jun 11, 2023 at 4:16 pm

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Quotes From John Loillpop Former San Francisco Resident & Writer:

"Liberals believe U.S. Constitution is unconstitutional because it was written by white men.

"Conservative publications and conservative speech should be censored."

"To abort an innocent child in inalienable, whereas execution of convicted killer is cruel."

"Religious faith and belief in God are outdated pagan concepts."

"Rely on government cradle to grave."

"Tax cuts are wrong when returned to people who actually pay taxes. But are perfectly fine when sent to those who paid none."

"Liberals believe that discrimination based on race or gender is wrong. Except when waged against Caucasian men in which case it is mandated by law and called affirmative action."


Posted by Ron Briscoe, a resident of another community,
on Jun 11, 2023 at 5:35 pm

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Speaking as an African American male & political moderate...

> Liberals believe U.S. Constitution is unconstitutional because it was written by white men.
^ Not unconstitutional; just written by white men, many of whom were slaveowners.

> "Conservative publications and conservative speech should be censored."
^ All expressions providing they are not seditious should be allowed.

> "To abort an innocent child in inalienable, whereas execution of convicted killer is cruel."
^ In certain instances (i.e. rape, incest, health of the mother) abortion should be allowed by law.

> As for the execution of convicted murderers, capital punishment should be allowed by law providing there is no question as to the guilt of the convictee. Sometimes mistakes are made...the ultimate responsibility for evidentiary oversights rests not with the police but by the attorneys involved, the jury, and the presiding judge.

> "Religious faith and belief in God are outdated pagan concepts."
^ Not outdated, just unscientific...people are entitled to believe whatever they want to believe. Who are we to judge?

> "Rely on government cradle to grave."
^ This is a recipe for perpetual poverty.

> "Tax cuts are wrong when returned to people who actually pay taxes. But are perfectly fine when sent to those who paid none."
^ SCOTUS Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes once wrote that while it is legal to AVOID paying IRS taxes, it is illegal to EVADE paying them.

> "Liberals believe that discrimination based on race or gender is wrong. Except when waged against Caucasian men in which case it is mandated by law and called affirmative action."
^ The white population in America still outnumbers the individual minority populations but the combined minority population exceeds that of the whites.

That said, imagine the bloodshed and police reaction had 800+ angry blacks stormed the Capitol on January 6th.

The insurrectionists got off easy because they were white MAGA supporters.


Posted by John, a resident of Birdland,
on Jun 12, 2023 at 7:05 am

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Better to avoid Bay Area. Best yet avoid all of California.


Posted by Paul Clark, a resident of Danville,
on Jun 12, 2023 at 7:54 am

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All the foregoing comments form a picture of what has, and continues to take place in the Bay Area. Citizens "voting patterns" have taken us to where we are, coupled with the flawed response to the Covid "pandemic," where "government control" appears to have trumped good medical practice. We have lived in Danville for about 50 years now. And while the San Ramon Valley is still relatively safe from the negative effects of what is going on In San Francisco, and the other bayside communities, they are still coming for us. Indeed, the Secular Progressives have succeeded in "running out of other people's money!" SF and Oakland continue to suffer with "homelessness." Go take a drive down San Leandro Street in Oakland to view the nation's largest derelict RV/ auto & tent collection, but notice that when you arrive at the San Leandro City Limit, that it stops cold! And that's because San Leandro's government won't tolerate the "squatters" or their trashy "lifestyle." So it's government's failure to do it's job, that is at the crux of the problem.
Then there's BART, running at well less than 50% of it's pre-pandemic ridership, which is further compromised by on-board and station-based crime. BART says it's loosing $25 million to "fare jumpers," but since the demographics of the violators is "problematic," they want to stop arresting the violators and spend millions they don't have to replace all the fare gates to avoid simply taking the violators into custody. So now BART is looking for $300 million from the State ( which is already broke), to "tide them over" while they try to figure out their "next steps." Mind you, they don't have a plan, they just want more money while they create one, which is to say they just want the money.
We ARE witnessing the death of our large cities! I do not believe the old paradigm of "going to the office every day" will ever return. The question is will our current leaders be equal to the task of finding ways for our cities to survive.


Posted by Errol Grimes, a resident of Danville,
on Jun 12, 2023 at 9:09 am

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@Paul Clark
You brought up some key points. Now let's get down to the bottom of the causal factors...

On the whole, a lack of civic and personal pride permeate the various cities where these social problems have become blatantly rampant.

What is going on in San Francisco and Oakland is no different than the scenarios in Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, and other major U.S. cities.

Constructive big city management has become deterred by woke policies and entitlement philosophies to amend for centuries of alleged racism towards African American citizens. And as a result, we now have no bail policies and premature release of repeat offenders. In the larger metropolitan cities, this progressive policy only leads to more crime.

The homeless flock to these cities because there is no regulation, just sanctuary...another example of progressive oversights.

The bottom line is that things will only get worse because the most of the city and county administrators responsible for managing these larger municipalities simply don't care one way or another despite their lofty ideals and perfunctory lip service.

It is much easier to manage smaller, wealthier, and predominantly white communities like Danville and Los Altos because the residents take pride in their neighborhoods.

In San Francisco, Oakland, and Richmond, civic and personal pride is an oxymoron for the most part.


Posted by Chanelle Templeton, a resident of another community,
on Jun 12, 2023 at 9:33 am

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It is easy for rich white folks to point their fingers at impoverished black people who are still suffering due to economic disparities and pervasive racism.

The proposed $5M reparations to all descendents of African slaves will only partially atone for the societal brutalities and exclusions we have suffered as a people. A formal apology and public holiday is also warranted.

African Americans were only free during the Reconstruction period of 1868-1876. Our freedom ended when white Republicans and Democrats colluded to strip us of our liberty with the Compromise of 1876. As Don Lemon would say, "Google it."

With $5M in hand and combining our fiscal resources, many of us could easily afford to reside in places like Danville or Los Altos.

Instead we are forced to live in the inner city ghettos and projects where crime is often the only viable means of survival.

These conditions justify the progressive policies that are being initiated by some of our more enlightened public officials.


Posted by James Lacy, a resident of Danville,
on Jun 12, 2023 at 10:00 am

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According to some estimates, it will cost over $114 trillion to cover these proposed reparations and if enacted, it would give a whole new meaning to the concept of a debt ceiling.

The United States is currently around $34.5 trillion in debt and adding another $114 trillion in reparations would bring the figure to an astronomical minus $146 trillion.

Only by issuing a massive number of long-term U.S. Treasury Certificates could these reparations be fulfilled and who would buy them?

Inflation would also skyrocket but this development would probably be of minimal concern to the majority of reparation recipients because they now have the money to spend on whatever they want.


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