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Much Ado About Nunez

Uploaded: Feb 3, 2018

There’s been a lively discussion warming (if not lighting) the dark shadows of the local blog cemetery, so I thought I’d add a few thoughts and let it smolder-on here.

The subject, of course, is our government’s latest distraction from actually governing – the Nunez memo, or as conservative columnist Bret Stephens calls it: the Nunez Nothingburger.

Now, in trying to be true to my New Year’s Rez NOT to follow my dog in a headlong dash after every Trumpian squirrel, I have Not studied this particular rodent. Thus, legal training – which has become an issue in those buried comments – will not be brought to bear here.*

Except, that is, for this one legalistic observation, which is learned early-on: you never, Ever decide the case after only hearing the plaintiff’s evidence** – here, that's the Memo standing alone. Even the best claims require a counter-argument, and by all accounts, this is not among the best. The fact that the GOPers on the House Committee are strenuously muzzling their counterparts’ rejoinder memo makes me deeply suspicious of both the motives and the quality of the Nunez note. Public debate lies near the heart of the First Amendment.

Free the Schiff*** Rebuttal!

I do have a few other, related thoughts.

First, there’s an excellent podcast series from Slate called “Slow Burn.” It recounts the play-by-play of the Watergate probe – another slow-motion crisis of our democracy - many details of which I’d forgotten. Without pre-judging the outcome of the Russia investigation, it is remarkable how the actions of the Nixon Administration foreshadow current events. And I have to ask: do innocent people really act this way? “We’ll see.”

More importantly, I worry about the corrosive nature of this Administration’s concerted actions on the institutional respect that democratic processes need to survive. I fear that tactics like the Nunez Memo cynically eat away at our democratic foundations, especially among the disaffected and easily swayed minority that constitutes Trump’s most ardent base. Here’s an OpEd from a resigning FBI Agent in today’s paper. He concludes:

“ … these kinds of attacks by powerful people go beyond mere criticism — they could destroy the institution. Although those critics’ revisionist supporters claim their ire is reserved for institutional leadership and not the rank and file, it is the F.B.I. agent on the street who will be most severely affected as public support for federal law enforcement is sacrificed for partisan gain."

"These political attacks on the bureau must stop. If those critics of the agency persuade the public that the F.B.I. cannot be trusted, they will also have succeeded in making our nation less safe.”

Irony abounds.

As much as our physical and digital infrastructures are being neglected (and they are), our institutions are suffering enduring damage that will require time and effort to repair. The best hopes for that healing will be to bring the Russia meddling probe to a proper conclusion – whatever that may be – and for those who share my concern to turn-out and vote in November.


* That said, when I see some of the obviously mistaken legal proclamations in the comments, I feel a bit like the MD whose patients have supplanted medical training with some breathless, “jaw-dropping” clickbait diagnosis in People mag.

** Okay, that's not completely accurate - sometimes, the plaintiff's evidence is so flimsy that it fails to even state a proper claim, in which case no defense is necessary. Some commentators are arguing that such is precisely the case here, especially with regard to the Russia meddling probe.

*** I just learned yesterday that Rep. Schiff is a Monte Vista High grad, before his later academics at Stanford and Harvard Law. For many reasons, I'd like to hear his point-of-view.

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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 10:21 am

Hey, Tom, you're back!

Look, guys, we now actually have a real lawyer in our little discussion group about the Nunes memo.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 10:27 am

“The fact that the GOPers on the House Committee are strenuously muzzling their counterparts' rejoinder memo makes me deeply suspicious of both the motives and the quality of the Nunez note."

Completely and utterly false. The dem memo's going through the exact same process as the majority. The Dems are throwing all sorts of classified info into their memo and it is being vetted and possibly redacted due to its classification. The Dems will claim it is redacted due to it pointing out republican malfeasance, naturally. In other words they know beforehand and will again use politics to smear the real investigation.

So, given the above, give us all the other examples of why you think the quality of the memo is suspect?

We await breathlessly.


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Posted by Scott Hale, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 11:13 am

Scott Hale is a registered user.

the memo is an political opinion piece. The first released is GOP version. The Dems version will be their opinion. And, yeah, both memos should have been released together. Not a single credible reason why the GOP opinion piece could not be delayed until the Dem version went through the 'process'.

The main thrust of the GOP memo was to attempt to muddy the Mueller investigation. In that regard, total dud. He won't be effected at all. 2nd,maybe, reason was to shine a light on the FISA court and procedures? Again, kind a bust. Congress has not requested an audience with any of the FISA judges. One wonders why?

#FoxClownNews would have you believe this memo is Watergate. It's a fluff piece. Dems will fluff the other way.

And still, conservatives heads are exploding that Mueller is still on the job and still coming. And Trump is very very worried.

Better luck next attempt?

Our Congress. Our President. own it.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 11:22 am

Cushing quoted an FBI agent who said:

“ ... these kinds of attacks by powerful people go beyond mere criticism " they could destroy the institution. Although those critics' revisionist supporters claim their ire is reserved for institutional leadership and not the rank and file, it is the F.B.I. agent on the street who will be most severely affected as public support for federal law enforcement is sacrificed for partisan gain."

So, Cushing obviously sides with what the agent said. Okay. But therein lies the problem: Who polices the police?

Santa Clara County 2015. Three correctional deputies allegedly beat an inmate to death. During the investigation, LaDoris Cordell, a retired judge of the Superior Court of California, criticizes Sheriff Laurie Smith for circumstances surrounding the death of Michael Tyree. Cordell then heads the Blue Ribbon Commission to become an advocate for improving transparency into charges of police misconduct. In 2016, the three correctional deputies were convicted of second degree murder. The bottom line: Cordell wasn't afraid to speak up and point out serious flaws within the Santa Clara County Jails.

So, what's wrong with "powerful people" standing up to the FBI? Cushing attempts to hide behind the quote of one FBI agent who apparently has an issue with criticism towards the bureau.

Cushing's argument and weak ruse (deflection) has no underbelly to sustain or support his drivel. By the way, after what Comey recently tweeted, you have to question how this clown ever became the director of the FBI.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 11:33 am

@Malcolm Hex

You were going well there for awhile in your last post, but do you think that it would be possible to make it through an entire post without personal attacks against Cushing, Comey, or anyone else? Believe it or not, putting that sort of stuff in your posts doesn't help you in trying to present the appearance of putting forth a rational, well reasoned argument. It just makes it look like you're lashing out emotionally.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 11:45 am

As a follow-up...

"The memo also claims that, before and after Steele was terminated as a source, he kept in touch with the DOJ through then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr. Ohr, who worked closely with Yates then Rosenstein, eventually spoke with the FBI about his communications with Steele. In September 2016, Steele apparently told Ohr he was "'desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president,'" according to the memo. The memo also notes Ohr's wife worked for Fusion GPS to help with the opposition research against Trump, something the memo claims was not disclosed."

-CBS News

So, Ohr spoke to the FBI about Steele, but failed to mention that his wife worked for Fusion GPS. I wonder if Steel knew about the fact that Ohr's wife worked for Fusin GPS? Which begs the question why Ohr stll kept in touch with Steele after Steele was terminated as a source. Shady, shady, shady.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 12:00 pm

Concerning the standards for surveillance warrants such as this FISA warrant, I think that this CNN article makes some points:

"I learned that night that search and surveillance warrants are often issued on information supplied by even the sketchiest of sources. Unlike the street addicts whose testimony often sends criminal defendants to prison for life, the now-notorious Christopher Steele -- a former British intelligence agent -- appears to be, by comparison, a seasoned professional highly adept at gathering reliable information."

"Even assuming all the claims in the Nunes memo are true, the grounds supporting issuance and reissuance of the FISA warrants were easily met. The FISA statute, designed to deal with national security issues, permits the secret court to authorize surveillance of a US person if there is probable cause that the person is an "agent of a foreign power...knowingly engag[ing]... in clandestine intelligence activities.""

"Although the activities might be "spying" for a foreign power, there is no explicit requirement of criminality needed to get a warrant as in a conventional criminal case. The number and suspicious nature of Carter Page's activities and contacts with Russian operatives during the Trump campaign would have caused any reasonable judge to issue a surveillance warrant."
CNN: Web Link
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So I think that part of the problem here is that Malcolm Hex and Resident and others were expecting that there is some higher burden of proof required for an FISA warrant whereas in reality that's not so. Granted, Steele may not have been a 100% reliable source of information, but even the Nunes memo admitted that Steele had a "past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters". That (possibly combined with other information that has not been revealed to us) seems to have been good enough to get over the bar of getting an FISA warrant.


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Posted by Scott Hale, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 12:21 pm

Scott Hale is a registered user.

Hey Hex: Any laws broken? If so, please detail them here and answer why no charges have been filed.

BTW, to the conservatives who keep insisting the Steele doc was the ONLY considered justification for the 4 FISA warrants...you are dead wrong. One piece.

You must also answer why Trump hasn't declassified all the FISA warrants. He can, you know, as president. One wonders.

One also wonders why nobody on the committee has requested an audience with the FISA court (they can, those with clearance). Crickets.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 12:26 pm

@Sam

Lashing out? LOL!. Personal attack against Comey? He's a public figure. I do not know him personally. He's a clown in my opinion - our at least he wasn't until I read his recent tweet.

So, Comey can be critical of the president, but I can't be critical of Comey? LOL!!! Come on, man! Did you actually read Comey's tweet? Let me help:

"All should appreciate the FBI speaking up. I wish more of our leaders would. But take heart: American history shows that, in the long run, WEASELS and LIARS never hold the field, so long as good people stand up. Not a lot of schools or streets named for Joe McCarthy."

Weasels and liars? Did he call my president a weasel and a liar? If not, who was he referring too? Wow! This tantrum coming from the former director of the FBI? Ouch! All I did was call Comey a clown - which he has made himself out to be - in my most humble opinion.

In response to what you mentioned in regard to Cushing... I simply made a statement that what he said did not support his claim based on what I said. Now, if the word "drivel" offends you, I suggest you take a look at words that are synonamous with the word itself: Nonsense, mumbo jumbo, etc.

I simply disagreed with Cushing and claimed what he wrote was nonsense - in my most humble opinion. So what?

I like Cushing's leftist point of view because it differs greatly from mine. And that, my friend, is what makes America Great (Again).

Now, let's get back to that memo, shall we?


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Posted by Cholo , a resident of Livermore,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 12:41 pm

I have a hunch that Devon Nunes would be happier returning to the Azores or playing in a cow pasture.

What happens to what is most likely honest, responsible individuals, when they're elected and move to DC? Most of the officials seem to be getting stranger by the minute.

They don't understand how their behavior impacts the lives of so many good Americans and they don't care that American's are harmed by their anti-social behavior. It's understood that trump is more than just a bit coo-coo, but I would never have suspected that so many GOP's are equally nuts!

I believe that Mr. Mueller and his team will eventually tease out what is happening in the White House. It won't be a pretty picture.

I greatly admire Mr. Mueller and his team!






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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 2:05 pm

Scott says: “Hey Hex: Any laws broken? If so, please detail them here and answer why no charges have been filed.“

lol!!!

The most hysterically ignorant thing posted by you since, at least yesterday!

Why don't you point to the laws broken by Trump, which a special council has been unable to find for the last year?!

Words fail. (Slaps forehead)


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 2:34 pm

OK, guys, taking a look at all this from another perspective: Regardless of how the individuals here on this forum think about the Nunes memo, the fact is that most news outlets are reporting the Nunes memo as basically being a dud as far as proving that the FBI and DOJ acted inappropriately and politically in this matter. Yes, Trump solidly believes that the memo shows a smoking gun, and so I'm sure do Fox, Newsmax, and Breitbart. But as for the goal of convincing the greater part of America that there was inappropriate, politically influenced behavior, this whole Nunes memo thing is a bellyflop. It appears to me that Republicans, not Democrats, are the ones who are trying to play politics with government departments and institutions - and that's pretty sad. Just another example of how Trump is dividing and damaging this country.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 3:46 pm

Shorter Sam - ‘the greater liberal media says the memo is a dud, so, it's a dud!'

Sam and Scott are on a roll today.


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Posted by Scott Hale, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 4:43 pm

Scott Hale is a registered user.

SSN1: So, you can't say if the memo points out anything illegal and/or why no charges have been filed. OK, we got you. Crickets.

I get you are confused as to what is going on. Mueller has filed charges to a few already. Some pleaded guilty, some have not. A few are signing their hearts out to avoid serious charges and jail time. A few have said they are not guilty and will go to trial this summer. Investigation continues, is not completed. I hope you are very proud of your party's attempt to throw Mueller under the bus...You know it failed (the memo).

You can gloat and be a ding dong all you want when Mueller submits his final report...if Trump is as clean as you wish him to be. However, I suspect Mueller has a lot he hasn't leaked and Trump will be tarred and feathered appropriately as will a few (or all) of his family and close aides.

I'll be the first to say SSN#1 was right if the investigation finds zero.

Tick, tock. Please try to find other news organizations to regurgitate here. #FoxClownNews isn't enough and it shows with your lack of coherent opinion.

KEEP UP. And try not to avoid the questions put to you. Crickets means you have nothing.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 4:57 pm

@Resident: "Shorter Sam - ‘the greater liberal media says the memo is a dud, so, it's a dud!'"

The whole purpose of Trump getting the Nunes memo released was to try to play things out in the court of public opinion, right? I honestly don't think that that's working. This is a nothing burger. From the excitement that Trump was expressing, I thought that there was going to be much more to the memo than this. I'll bet that you thought so, too.


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Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 5:17 pm

This is my kinda AMERICAN PATRIOT!!! MY KINDA HERO!

Web Link

YUP...VIVA MUELLER!


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Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 5:20 pm

but wait...I forgot to ask if President trump is also a "war hero"...just asking...hahahahahahahahahaha


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Posted by POLOLO MOLOLO, a resident of Livermore,
on Feb 3, 2018 at 5:23 pm

OH MY! Web Link


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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 7:55 am

Some people think that you have to be a lawyer to understand the law.

Some people allow others to think for them.

Some people don't understand that lawyers can only give advice, but not legal opinions.

Some people apparently don't understand that to lie or deceive a federal court judge can have serious consequences.

Some people need to understand 18 U.S.C 1001(a)

The statute spells out this purpose in subsection 18 U.S.C. § 1001(a), which states:

(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully?"

(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device[ , ] a material fact;

(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or

(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331),[10] imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both....

Sam and ex-Hale, do try and keep up.

Report Objectionable Content


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 8:23 am

Sam,

The memo proved everything it needed to: the past administration and current top management in the DoJ/FBI illegally spied on a US citizen.

There is still two other investigations, the Inspector General and the Senate that are also investigating. When combined with this first prong, will be even more devastating to the bureaucracy.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 8:34 am

Keys points from the report:

1.) FBI Used News Articled Sourced By Steele To Corroborate His Dossier
2.) FBI Knew Steele Was Being Paid By DNC, Hillary Clinton, Chose Not To Tell The Court
3.) Without The Steele Dossier, FBI Wouldn't Have Sought the Warrant To Spy On Carter Page
4.) FBI Spied On Trump's Associate For Nearly a Year
5.) FBI Dismissed Steele As a Source Soon After It Secured The Initial FISA Warrant
6.) FBI Did Not Tell The Court It Had Dismissed Steele
7.) DOJ Official's Wife Was Getting Paid By Fusion GPS

See number 1? Illegal because they knew it was based on the dossier.
See number 2 and 6? Illegal
See number 3? That came directly from Andy Mcabe, second in command at the FBI.

Sam - ‘nothingbuger'

Lol!


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 8:42 am

@Resident: :"FBI Knew Steele Was Being Paid By DNC, Hillary Clinton, Chose Not To Tell The Court"

It's good to keep up with the latest news developments. Actually, this news came out yesterday. Don't know how you missed it because it was reported on many news sites:

"The central argument in the Nunes memo may have just been debunked"

"Officials familiar with the matter told The Washington Post and The New York Times that the DOJ made it clear to the court that information contained in a dossier they submitted as part of a FISA application to surveil Page was politically motivated...."

Business Insider: Web Link
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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 8:50 am

@Malcolm Hex : "Some people apparently don't understand that to lie or deceive a federal court judge can have serious consequences."

No lies, no deception. You and Resident both need to read the Business Insider article that I just posted. Or if you don't like Business Insider you can find the story on any of a number of other news sites (except for Breitbart, of course). The federal court judge was made fully aware of the nature and source of the information for the FISA application.





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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 9:16 am

@Malcolm Hex and Resident

Oh, guys, and as I stated awhile ago, since Nunes never actually saw and read the FISA application, it would have been smarter for him to have passed the responsibility for writing the memo to someone who did (Trey Gowdy), because Nunes was setting himself up for a potential embarrassment if some information later came out which undermined the memo. Here's my previous post copied below. Pretty prescient of me huh? So here we are with Nunes with egg on his face because he wrote that memo without having read the FISA application, because if he had read the application then he would have known that the judge was fully aware of the source and nature of the Information.

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@Resident :"Trey Gowdy was responsible for that task."

Then Trey Gowdy, the person who was most informed about the matter, should have written the memo. The story gets weirder and weirder. I certainly would never have agreed to author such a memo if I didn't personally read the FISA applications and have first-hand knowledge about all the relevant facts. Doing that would be risky and be setting myself up for a possible personal embarrasssment if it were later revealed that there was information in those FISA applications which undermined my memo. I would tell the person who actually did read the FISA applications that he is the appropriate author of any such memo.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 9:18 am

Sam,

Ahhhh, so it may have been POLITICALLY motivated?!

Isn't that what I've been saying all along??

Lol, do you pay any attention to detail?!

So the court approved a document based on politics instead of law breaking.

Good to know Sam and welcome to the club.

Lol!


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 9:48 am

@Resident :"Ahhhh, so it may have been POLITICALLY motivated?! Isn't that what I've been saying all along??“

LOL! You're funny, Resident. No, a short time ago you were implying that it WAS politically motivated. So now you've backed down to saying that it “may" have been politically motivated. Well, yeah, you “may" be stuffing your pants with chipmunks right now for all I know.


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Posted by Scott Hale, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 9:54 am

Scott Hale is a registered user.

I wonder how many 'think' that the judges (more than one; there were 4 applications) believe if each judge was walked through the dossier was paid for by the DNC if that fact alone would have caused the judge(s) to say no?

Before the 'defend Trump at all costs' crowd respond; note the dossier was just one part of the application(s). Perhaps, just the first application. The extensions were based on what the taps/etc had already produced. FACT.

Nunes, Trump lackey, memo was/is clearly 'motivated' to attempt to end Mueller's investigation. Perhaps one person can use the memo and that is Page and his lawyers to try and protect him. Pretty sure, tho, they have a ton on Page beyond the dossier.

Mueller is still coming. And Trump continues to worry. Why would an innocent person worry?


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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 10:02 am

No sitting judge would ever sign a warrant if he knew the information given to him was false or deceptive.

You are saying that the judge knowingly signed a warrant because he knew the information in the dossier was false? LOL!!!!!

We already know information in that dossier was false. Your logic is remarkable.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 10:19 am

@Malcolm Hex :"You are saying that the judge knowingly signed a warrant because he knew the information in the dossier was false?"

No, the FISA court granted the application even though they knew that some of the information in it was politically motivated - as was openly admitted by those submitting the application. I think that the thing that you and Resident are having a hard time coming to grips with is the fact that the bar for getting a an FISA surveillance application approved by the court is not very high. That's just the way things are. Now you may think that the bar should be set higher and maybe or not I would agree with you, but that's a separate subject. For now the bar is set where it is and while there is evidence that some of the information within the FISA application was politically motivated (as was openly admitted), there is no evidence that the application itself was politically motivated. Bottom line: one big, fat nothing burger.


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Posted by Blues Brother, a resident of Danville,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 10:19 am

Blues Brother is a registered user.

It must be exhausting trying to work so hard, to defend a president and a party hack who so lack any redeeming features. So let's take a time-out to give those stalwarts a breather in the Big Game ... /cut to a bit of levity from SNL:

"Weekend Update" co-anchor Colin Jost said:

"This memo came from 40-year-old virgin Devin Nunes, who is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. I've got to say, I don't really trust this guy to untangle a vast conspiracy. I wouldn't really trust him to untangle a pair of headphones. ... At this point, if you actually want to get my attention, the bar is set at ‘Porn star spanks president with magazine.'

"Also, this is a four-page memo that just cherry-picks information from a FISA document that's like 50 or 60 pages long. It's like when you see a blurb for ‘Transformers 5,' and it says, ‘It blew my mind,' when the full quote is, ‘It blew my mind that God allowed this.'"

Co-anchor, Michael Che, continued: “First of all, you know damn well Donald Trump didn't read this memo. It's four pages long. And the only time Donald Trump reads four pages in a row is when he's ordering breakfast."

/back to the booth, and the Beleaguered. Take it away, fellas.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 10:24 am

Sam,

You painted yourself in a corner and now you want to focus on a word I used?

You're beclowning yourself in front of our very eyes.

If you posted the article to prove my usage of a word then you could have said so, but you didn't. You posted it to throw shade on Nunes and you played right into what he and others (me) have been saying all along: this has been a political investigation all along.

Keep beclowning yourself.

Lol!


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 10:28 am

Sam,

How do you know about any evidence? Nobody has seen the underlying intelligence that formed the basis of the memo but the HSPIC.

Projecting much?


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 10:57 am

@Resident

You're flailing away and I don't even understand your latest post. Bottom line is that the Nunes memo is a flop. Even a writer over at the conservative National Review thinks that the Nunes memo is a big setback for Trump:

“The Big Flaw in the Memo"

“It may have just confirmed a key New York Times scoop"

“Well, if the newly released Nunes memo is correct, House Republicans and the Trump administration just confirmed the Times' scoop. In the process, they blew up their core argument against the investigation. The investigation isn't the fruit of the poisonous dossier (though the dossier did play a role) ; it existed before the dossier."
The National Review: Web Link
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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 12:30 pm

Sam,

Lol!

Talking about flailing.

The point is and has always been: you can't open up a criminal investigation (read Mueller), based on politics.

You just commited the fumble that we've all know about since the beginning.

Lol.


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Posted by Scott Hale, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 1:54 pm

Scott Hale is a registered user.

>>>Nobody has seen the underlying intelligence that formed the basis of the >>>memo but the HSPIC.

Not true. Two on the committee have. But not your Boy Nunnes. Rest of the committee have NOT seen the applications or intelligence. FACT.

do keep up.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 2:20 pm

Hey Scott.... Hello! Dossier dude, dossier. We know that the dossier was BS - just like your BS.

Stop avoiding the truth.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 4:13 pm

Mmmmmmm.... Not a Trump fan but I've got to hand it to him: He makes the world's best best nothing-burgers. (*munch*, *munch*).


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 6:17 pm

Interesting take on what might be happening. Plausible but so deep it boggles the mind:Web Link

Thomas Wictor has been more right, then wrong about other issues.

Not endorsing his opinion but it has me thinking...


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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 4, 2018 at 7:57 pm

The House Intelligence Committee memo about 2016 surveillance abuses, released Friday, lays out grave evidence that the FBI wasn't fully forthcoming with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court as it sought an order to wiretap former Trump adviser Carter Page. It's possible the FBI's lack of candor was even worse than the memo describes.

- Wall Street Journal


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 8:02 am

Nothing burger:

“In the wake of the Great Nothing Burger of 2018 " as some have been calling the Nunes memo " Republican political strategist Rick Wilson skewered the GOP for pushing the memo so hard when there wasn't much of substance in it. He tweeted that the memo had gone off like a “fart in a hurricane" " in couplet form, no less:"

“Nunes and his little friends
Vowed to bring the pain
But Devin's memo whiffed today
Like a fart in a hurricane"

““The first rule of politics is always: underpromise, overdeliver," Wilson told host Katy Tur on MSNBC Live Friday. “They turned this into something where they'd had people believing that today you would see Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Jim Comey, Susan Rice marched off in handcuffs, and instead you've got people laughing at Devin Nunes like he's Tommy Wiseau."

“This is an absurdity, this thing is the weakest sauce I could have imagined, in fact it's comical how bad it is," he added."
MediaLite : Web Link
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Posted by Tom Cushing, a resident of Danville,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 8:23 am

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I am sorry to say, 41 comments-in, that the Nunez memo has served one of its two purposes. It was never meant to be a quality piece of advocacy - the facts simply aren't there (except to the desperate and easily swayed, as I wrote above). But it was yet another masterful bit of distraction that dominated the news cycles for several days - at a accumulating cost to our institutions (which also serves an important purpose if you obsessively fear the outcome of the Russia-meddling probe, as DiJiTs obviously does). Just another brick removed from the house of democracy.

There's also the opportunity cost of what might actually have been done with that energy to move the nation forward. Another hidden cost to America.

Whether the memo serves its other purpose of providing pretext, however thoroughly flimsy, to further roil the Russia investigation waters remains to be seen. A president who will vulgarly claim such pretext of 'bias' in a federal judge's hispanic surname, or laughably in a decades-old country club fees dispute doesn't need anything of actual merit on the facts - obviously, almost any stupid excuse will do.

It's time to insulate Mr. Mueller from at-will firing and let him complete his work, but I am concerned that the GOP Congress is invertebrate. Their donors need to tell them it's time to find a spine - donors, after all, are not needed in an autocracy.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 8:38 am

Tom,

You never go into any detail WHY the memo is a big nothing burger. None of the commenters here do.

Just some prose to fling out instead of a point-by-point takedown of the memo.

You're lack of detail speaks volumes.


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Posted by Tom Cushing, a resident of Danville,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 8:57 am

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There are literally hundreds of articles out there that explain why the Nunez memo is crap. They are available in the still-free and still-credible press outside your credulous tribal village walls. I will not further dignify the distraction by prolonging the stupid debate - it's unnecessary and it damages democracy.

The delay of the Schiff rebuttal was another masterful piece of cynical distraction - kept the whole thing front-and-center for a few more days. Marvel at the spectacle, but for gawdsake do not be taken-in by it. Then again, to a drowning man who desperately wants it to all be true, well - any flimsy straw will provide temporary comfort.

Read the Schiff rebuttal memo. Chances are my views will be in there.


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Posted by Doug Miller, a resident of Country Fair,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 9:04 am

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Well done Mr. Cushing. Keep on keeping on. And here is to the next Trump "outrage"which will likely break out sometime this month and cause Mr. Cushing to go off on yet another tangent. As will others on the left who are desperate to overturn the 2016 election. The face of the current Democrat party was clearly on display at the State of the Union address last week. Nothing to offer but conspiracy theories and hate for conservatives.

Clearly this Democrat strategy is working. For Republicans.

The Democrat party is broke and fundraising is well below that of Republicans. And while people like Mr. Cushing continue to push "Russia, Russia, Russia", The Obama legacy is being swept into the dustbin of history. This fall voters will remember those “crumbs" in their paychecks all year and appropriately reward Democrats.


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Posted by Scott Hale, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 9:41 am

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And yet GOP congress'person' after person announces their retirement.

Mid-terms are coming.

Mueller is coming.

What will the Dems and GOP do? One party will certainly lose big time.....

Such entertainment watching the liberals and the conservative out ding dong themselves here.


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Posted by Jerry, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 11:13 am

I love all the noise in DC! All this just for money... Trump have to pay back the Russians and selling out the RNC is easy. All he needs to do is sign anything the RNC can push through congress. Everything is white noise to pay Putin and the wealthy people funding them. But most importantly for you folks to fight each other for a bunch of nonsense, it's exactly what the Russian needs to push oil back up to $120 and getting rid of agency protecting Americans. Just an FYI... FBI and NSA can monitor anyone for no apparent reason, it's called the Patriot Act.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 12:11 pm

@Resident: "You never go into any detail WHY the memo is a big nothing burger. None of the commenters here do."

It's a nothing burger because the Nunes memo failed to make the case that there is a deep-state conspiracy in the FBI and DOJ against Trump. And I think that we've pretty much beaten to death here the subject of why the memo failed to meet its burden of proof.

(P.S.: BTW, I looked up this "Thomas Wictor" that you mentioned in regards to his thoughts on all of this. Even you must realize that this guy has some pretty deep - and self-admitted! - psychological problems. )


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Posted by Scott Hale, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 1:51 pm

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Sam: do you ever consider you are yelling at the mountain? and it doesn't move, no matter what?

Midterms will make the mountain move....one hopes....

Otherwise, Mueller is coming and conservatives are very worried.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 2:25 pm

@Scott Hale :"Sam: do you ever consider you are yelling at the mountain?"

Yeah, but it's all in good fun and I love pointing out logical inconsistencies, fallacies, etc.. Besides, I occasionally learn interesting things in the rough and tumbles such as about this looney “Thomas Wictor" guy who is apparently some guru for some in the alt-right.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 3:21 pm

Shorter Sam - “the doc is a nothingburger because the media says so."

That's the extent of your analysis.

Great job Sam...great job.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 5, 2018 at 5:23 pm

@Resident

Resident, given the fact that you think very highly of this "Thomas Wictor" guy, would it raise my stature in your eyes if I said that I have depression, anxiety, and uncontrollable rage and that I think that the squirrels in my backyard are plotting a revolt against me?


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Posted by Tom Cushing, a resident of Danville,
on Feb 6, 2018 at 7:02 am

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Same Bret Stephens, my new favorite conservative: Web Link

"Democrats Are the New Republicans. Fiscal responsibility: Check. The Russian government is not to be trusted: Check. Moral character counts in politics: Check. Law enforcement demands our highest respect: Check.

For me as a conservative, the experience is just head-snapping.

Suddenly we're supposed to believe that Carter Page - a man who charitably can be described as Vladimir Putin's useful idiot - is a martyr to American civil liberties.

Suddenly we're supposed to think that people like Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, and the F.B.I. director, Christopher Wray - both of whom were appointed by Trump - are anti-Trump villains.

Suddenly we're supposed to think that an election that Trump won was stolen from him."


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Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore,
on Feb 10, 2018 at 4:23 pm

Carter Page is way coo-coo. Should he ever morph into something that even remotely resembles something like this, you best HIGH TAIL IT!

Web Link

If you wanna give the prez a chill, send him the above!!!




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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 16, 2018 at 12:33 pm

Well, well, well.

Hey Cushing, looks like that "Noose" you mentioned regarding President Trump just deteriorated. Where is the collusion now,
bro?

NO AMERICAN INVOLVEMENT.

Web Link


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Posted by Tom Cushing, a resident of Danville,
on Feb 16, 2018 at 1:46 pm

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All I see is Mueller doing his job.

Harder to call Russian meddling "a hoax" based on these claims, per statements that it has been going on in serious and organized ways since at least 2013. It also appears that the president was incredibly naive to state repeatedly that he believed his friend Putin's denials that such a meddling offensive was/is ongoing.

But there's sweet-nothing in those indictments that exonerates Anyone in the Administration, of Anything during the campaign.

Is premature elation a regular problem? And how do we know you're not a Russian bot, hmmmm?


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 16, 2018 at 6:04 pm

Don't know why Malcolm Hex seems to think that this latest development in an ongoing investigation is good news for the Trump administration.

By the way, why was former Trump National Security Advisor Flynn taking the 5th and lying to the FBI about the nature of his Russian meetings? I've never gotten an answer from a Trump supporter in response to that question. For some reason, they all want to change the subject instead. Gee, I wonder why?.......


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Posted by Big Mike, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 17, 2018 at 2:21 am

Don't know why Sam seems to think that this latest development in an ongoing investigation is not good news for the Trump administration.

By the way, why was former Trump National Security Advisor Flynn taking the 5th and lying to the FBI about the nature of his Russian meetings? Well gee Nostradamus, you have all the answers buddy, why don't you tell us? After all, you and your minions told everyone since day one that Trump colluded with the Russians. Oh, nevermind, you were wrong. Just like you were wrong when you said the new tax plan would never go through.

Poor you.




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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 17, 2018 at 7:11 am

@Big Mike :"Don't know why Sam seems to think that this latest development in an ongoing investigation is not good news for the Trump administration."

Because it puts to a lie Trump's and Trump supporters' incessant claim that the Russia investigation was all one big “nothing burger".

You're welcome.


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Posted by Tom Cushing, a PleasantonWeekly.com blogger,
on Feb 17, 2018 at 10:32 am

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BM - you were doing pretty well 'til the last sentence - although pro-tip: the 'LOL!!!!' is nothing but a derisive label, and will discourage many folks from reading further.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 18, 2018 at 9:05 am

So “Big Mike" had a response but went off-track? What a shame. How about giving it another try, “Big Mike"? Would like to see someone try to give a rational and well reasoned defense of Trump's “hoax" comments now that Russian tampering in the election has been officially exposed.


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Posted by Big Mike, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 18, 2018 at 9:55 am

Hi Sam, Why don't you try and stay on track instead of attempting to deflect? Remember: NO COLLUSION. Your liberal mindset apparently can't handle reality, much less actual fact.

As for Cushing... You came back with with, "All I see is Mueller doing his job." That's right, he did his job. Mueller cleared Trump of collusion. It appears that Cushing is a walking pile of contradictions.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 18, 2018 at 10:29 am

@Big Mike :"Remember: NO COLLUSION."

Oh, I'm sorry, Mike. I didn't know that the Mueller investigation was completed.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 18, 2018 at 11:05 am

A headline that says it all:

“Trump blames everyone but Russia"
CNN: Web Link

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Posted by Big Mike, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 18, 2018 at 11:27 am

Hey Sam, great news source from where you get your information from - CNN. Yeah, the same company that recently sucked up to North Korea, and sent that idiot from 60 Minutes to journal a puff piece on that corrupt regime.

Sam, I know you suffer from PTSD (President Trump Saves Democrates). President Trump is attempting to save you from yourself.

Help him help you. Don't run away from the truth. Instead, embrace it!

And remember... NO COLLUSION.


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Posted by Big Mike, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 18, 2018 at 11:27 am

Hey Sam, great news source from where you get your information from - CNN. Yeah, the same company that recently sucked up to North Korea, and sent that idiot from 60 Minutes to journal a puff piece on that corrupt regime.

Sam, I know you suffer from PTSD (President Trump Saves Democrates). President Trump is attempting to save you from yourself.

Help him help you. Don't run away from the truth. Instead, embrace it!

And remember... NO COLLUSION.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 7:48 am

Regarding the most recent indictment:

“...much of the information Mueller published on Friday about the agency's efforts to influence the election had already been published last October " in an article by a Russian business magazine, RBC."

Quote from one of the bloggers must read sources, The Washington Post. Web Link

Soak the significance of the quote above...You just cannot make this stuff up.

Have any of you noticed how quiet the networks have been on the collusion narrative?

I have...



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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 8:17 am

@Resident :"Have any of you noticed how quiet the networks have been on the collusion narrative?"

Nope.

Recent news headlines:

“Schiff: 'Of course' Russian indictment doesn't clear Trump campaign of collusion"

“Trump Overreaches to Claim Indictment Proves 'No Collusion'"

“The case alleging Russian collusion is not closed"

“Trump continues to deny Russian collusion"

“Mueller Still Investigating Possible Collusion, Source Says"

“Donald Trump Tweets “No Collusion!" But Acknowledges Meddling After Blockbuster Indictments In Mueller Probe"

“Trump's Claim Mueller Found 'NO COLLUSION' Is Literal Nonsense"

“The Contours of a Potential Collusion Case Are Beginning to Emerge"


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 8:43 am

Sam,

Schiff on Obama: “Obama response was insufficient".

Started in 2014 and Obama did NOTHING.

Keep up the quotes, this is fun when compared to ACTIONS, or lackthereof...


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 9:52 am

@Resident

Why indeed? :

“Michael Flynn Pleads The Fifth And Refuses To Cooperate With Senate Russia Probe"

Trump Quote : “If you are not guilty of a crime, what do you need immunity for? The mob takes the Fifth Amendment. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"


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Posted by Whatzat Smell?, a resident of San Ramon,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 9:53 am

It's the bottom of the barrel, that's what. Web Link

Incumbent ranks 44/44 among Presidents, per all poli sci scholars (and 40/44 among Republican scholars - just ahead of the impeached Andrew Johnson). Whew!

Oh, but they're elites, of course, which means two things: they know whereof they speak alot better than you do, and you won't see them on the Daily Caller.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 10:12 am

Sam, you might want to read this article before you say too much. If Flynn is allowed to reverse his plea, and Brady vs Maryland comes into play, say good bye to this part of the case. In FACT, it will be Mr. Mueller who may find himself in hot water.

Web Link


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 10:42 am

@Whazat

Absolutely no doubt in my mind that Trump will go down in history as one of the worst if not the worst President in US history. According to a recent poll, about half those polled think that Trump is mentally unstable.

@Malcolm Hex

If you had a clear and convincing argument for why Mueller may find himself in trouble for doing his job, you would have simply stated it rather than asking me to read an article in some right-wing publication.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 11:11 am

Well, it's obvious you know nothing about Brady vs Maryland. Read up and educate yourself. Oh, by the way, the Brady vs Maryland case can be found everywhere on the web, including Wikipedia.

Just remember this, if your mind will allow it, the prosecution must turn over all evidence that might exonerate the defendant (exculpatory evidence) to the defense.

In Flynn's case, if he is allowed to reverse his plea, the government case against him could be in big trouble - as mentioned above.


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Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 12:00 pm

@Malcolm Hex

So maybe Flynn shouldn't have pled guilty to lying to the FBI? Doesn't he know whether he lied to the FBI or not? You're playing with a very weak hand and you know it.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex, a resident of another community,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 12:28 pm

Read the article. It may set your ignorance free.

And remember this: The law requires no credentials to understand it. It does however require credentials to practice it.

X


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 12:30 pm

Flynn wasn't lying because he didn't know he was being interviewed for a crime. In addition, the 302's that the FBI used to document his lying will be proven to be altered and this is a big no-no.

Flynn will withdrawl his pleading after he reviews the exculpatory evidence Mueller withheld and has to share via a judges recent ruling. Coupled with Mueller requesting a delay in sentencing, and this will end with Flynn being exonerated.

Malcolm is right, Sam again, is wrong.

You know next to nothing about what's happening and It's going to be so much fun rubbing this in your face.

Keep up with your useless quotes.


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Posted by Tom Cushing, a resident of Danville,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 2:32 pm

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As this Vox article implies, the most ardent acolytes of DiJiTs should not be blamed for desperately clutching their steady stream of miss-information as if it offered hope of deliverance - that is, unless they are voluntary foxbots.

Web Link

Malcolm: tread carefully. I have invested time and energy over multiple emails answering your Qs about the limits of posting tolerance. I didn't have to. If you continue to ignore that good, easy advice, I will cut my losses.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 3:14 pm

Nice try Tom ( and Vox ).

It is against the law for foreign citizens to spend money to influence US elections or to engage in political activities without "registering". But oddly enough, none of the 13 Russians are indicted for these crimes.

Instead, they are being charged with mostly "conspiracy to defraud the United States". Basically, they are being charged with crimes similar in nature to defrauding the gov out of medicare benefits. Beyond that, they're also minor charges such as bank fraud.

The left has been spectacularly wrong about this whole Russia collusion/obstruction debacle. 

BTW, what ever happened to Schiff's letter? LOL!

And Vox as a news source? You've got to be kidding me.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 3:28 pm

And another tidbit: the 13 Russians started this waaaay back in 2024 and spent the majority of the money before Trump announced his plans to run.

They also supported Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein.

Yep, some BIG collusion there.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 3:29 pm

2024 = 2014

Where was Obama?


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Posted by Tom Cushing, a resident of Danville,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 3:32 pm

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Vox is quite good in my experience of it. Your evidence-free derision does nothing to dispel (or improve) that impression. It may, however, contribute to the impression that you're one of those voluntary foxbots. You can be thankful for your anonymous solitude.

It is way too soon to draw Any conclusions from the Mueller probe. Your constant chest-thumping and vastly premature glee contain much more than a whiff of desperation. And we'll all just have to wait. I trust Mueller will get it right - in his good time and on his terms.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 4:03 pm

Interesting that you defend Vox, yet not refute the facts of the latest Mueller indictment and, by extension, the facts currently surrounding Flynn.

“Evidence free"?

Hardly. I've noticed your complete silence on the WAPO article I posted earlier today. There's evidence right there from your own side, no less.

Mueller will have his results, but they won't be what you expect, I can assure you.

Remember the name: Horowitz.





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Posted by Resident, a resident of Laguna Oaks,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 4:14 pm

Now why would a Democrat senator warn Mueller not to release his report before the election later this year? Web Link

Care to comment why, Tom?


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Posted by Tom Cushing, a resident of Danville,
on Feb 19, 2018 at 4:32 pm

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I'm under no duty to respond to anything, especially that which comes wrapped in Such certainty about an outcome that is Utterly unknown to anyone here. It's boring, and the chest-thumping only reflects on the willfully incomplete understanding of the thumper.

As to Senator Casey, I cannot imagine caring less about what he thinks. You'll have to accept his explanation ... or ask him. Do I ask you what Nunes thinks? Scratch that - it would be an empty Q - Nunes doesn't think.

I believe the Republican Mueller will be done when he decides he's done, on the merits - I'll accept those in any direction they lead. He is the only one among us who knows, and he's proceeding methodically, as he should. Time to give it a rest.


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