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Pleasanton Costco appears headed to crowded November ballot

Uploaded: Jun 23, 2016
There’s quite a tale of two big box stores developing in Dublin and Pleasanton.
A Costco, slated for Johnson Drive in Pleasanton as part of the economic development zone there, now appears headed for the ballot even though the City Council has taken no action on the specific project. It is permitted under the zoning established in the special area.
Opponents, led by Black Tie Transportation owner Bill Wheeler, apparently have qualified an initiative for the Nov. 8 ballot that would prohibit any retail store larger than 50,000 square feet on that site. The Costco, with 24 gasoline pumps planned, could range in size from 160,000 square feet to 200,000.
The traffic studies done for the rezoning indicate weekday vehicle trips of 12,000 with 15,000 or more on a Saturday. Other than the holiday season, with lots of shopper traffic generated by Stoneridge mall across I-680, the weekend traffic will be the lesser factor—it’s the weekday traffic that will be more of an issue at the Stoneridge/I-680 interchange. City traffic studies indicate that, after a full range of improvements, the traffic congestion will not be appreciably worst.
So that will be the issue come November when you can expect a high-spending campaign from both sides. It also adds a potential wedge issue to the City Council and mayoral race. Currently, Mayor Jerry Thorne has no announced opposition, while Councilman Jerry Pentin is running for re-election and Planning Commissioner Herb Ritter has announced he is running.
Incumbent Councilwoman Carla Brown has yet to announce her intentions.
The dynamics in November will be fascinating with the presidential race—barring surprises-- coming down to Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, a load of statewide propositions (many involving money) and then the local council election, initiative plus the school board and the school bond issue that is expected. Just what percentage of local voters will get past the national and statewide races to the local contests will be interesting.
That will contrast with Dublin where IKEA is moving ahead with the planning process on its 390,000-square-foot store at the corner of Hacienda Drive and Interstate 580. An IKEA project was approved in 2004, but IKEA officials are holding a series of community meetings to solicit input on a revised proposal. At a city-sponsored meeting this month, there was no objections raised although there has been a web site opposing IKEA for months.
One of the goals of this process is to get public input to refine plans for a six-acre parcel that could be used for a hotel, restaurants or retailers.
The good news for both Dublin and Pleasanton is once a plan is submitted, there will be an updated traffic study. IKEA, which only has Bay Area locations in Emeryville and East Palo Alto, is a regional shoppers’ magnet way beyond a Costco store (there are at least 10 Costco locations in the Bay Area). It’s weekend impact will be much closer to that of the factory outlet center in Livermore.

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Posted by SHale99, a resident of San Ramon,
on Jun 23, 2016 at 11:46 am

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Highly doubtful a new Costco will cause 'more' traffic region wise. IN fact, should reduce traffic as most who would use this proposed new Costco would be driving LESS. Would be less for me and this would become the Costco I go to. the 12k traffic figure, wasn't that for the entire zone and not just 'a' Costco? Very doubtful a Costco would generate quite that many cars on ave per day. That would be over 24k people, per day maybe? Entire families go for Costco trips. :)
Traffic whine is a nit; SOMETHING would go there and ANYTHING would require car traffic. I suspect will pass with flying colors and the NIMBY's will switch to the next whine and cheese event.


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Posted by Jon, a resident of Valley Trails,
on Jun 24, 2016 at 5:37 pm

I'm glad and stress free living out of state. Bring in Costco, IKEA and whatever else. Let my 2 rental property values keep climbing. Grew up in Pleasanton late 60's to 2010. Planners, developers already ruined the quality of life with all the congestion, competition. Bring in high rise buildings. Let's turn Pleasanton into San Jose ok? I'm laughing all the way to the bank.


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Posted by Michael Austin, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows,
on Jun 24, 2016 at 5:59 pm

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Jon, a resident of Valley Trails:

You are just another anonymous poster.
LOL every time you pay your property tax.


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Posted by JJ , a resident of Fairlands Elementary School,
on Jun 25, 2016 at 1:13 pm

Thank Tim for giving us the true facts from the SEIR. 12,000 additional vehicles on weekdays; 15,000 additional vehicles (cars and delivery trucks) on weekends at full buildout with Costco as part of the mix in the JDEDZ. I understand 7,000 are attributable to the Costco warehouse. What is uncertain, is if this includes 4,000 vehicles from the gas piece, or if this is an additional 4,000.

You are right on-- it's the weekday traffic at the I-680 interchange would be a huge issue. The City admitted at the April 12 meeting, that Caltrans had not approved modifications to the Interchange. There is no approval; no timeline.

What a mess this could be if approved!


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Posted by D, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood,
on Jun 25, 2016 at 2:05 pm

Obviously both of these stores will increase traffic in the area and regionally. The problem here lies with CALTRANS and the 680/580/Stoneridge interchanges. They have no plan or money to fix these already gridlocked exits and entrances. It's insane to consciously add more traffic without a CALTRANS solution in place. Call me a NIMBY, call it self interest, call it whatever you like! I vote NO!


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Posted by Lisa, a resident of Val Vista,
on Jun 25, 2016 at 2:29 pm

Do we really need 3 Costco's within 8 miles of each other?!? Seems like a lot of bulk shopping! I like Costco but only go maybe one or two times a year. I live in Pleasanton and don't mind driving to one of the two local Costco's. They are so close.


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Posted by Cooter, a resident of Stoneridge,
on Jun 25, 2016 at 4:01 pm

I never knew the gas portion was coming with Costco. I was undecided. Now I am a certain "no". Why??? Well, my friend, who works at Costco, says the average Costco pumps 1,000,000 gallons a month. Gee, that's about like adding 10 gas stations. This also equates to about 4 gas loads a day. So not only will there be an endless line of cars waiting to get gas (polution/traffic), we will have to deal with these huge tankers, to the of about 100+ a month. Again, Costco sells, on average, 1,000,000 gallons a month at their "gas station". Sounds more like a receipt for grid lock, road rage, and pollution. I'll pass.


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Posted by Michael Austin, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows,
on Jun 25, 2016 at 4:47 pm

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Cooter:

Costco gas stations are only 00.16% of the 170,000 gas stations that sell gasoline in the United States.


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Posted by Costco Member, a resident of Amador Estates,
on Jun 26, 2016 at 6:11 am

Cooter, that makes no sense. Regardless of having a Costco here, people are going to get gas from somewhere. In fact if they really wanted to get Costco gas, they will drive to Livermore to get it, causing more air pollution than if it were closer to home.


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Posted by Cooter, a resident of Stoneridge,
on Jun 26, 2016 at 8:54 am

Yes, most of us must buy gas somewhere- but, would you put 10 gas stations in one spot? 30% of all gasoline sold in Pleasanton, now would be in one spot. If approved, Costco would have 24 fueling dispensers. Each servicing 157 cars per day (SEIR). People waiting in line up to 30 minutes with their cars idling. Traffic, congestion, rage, tanker trucks constantly, pollution. More convenient "mom and pop" stations could close.

If this is what you want for our city, you have the right to your own opinion.


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Posted by DKHSK, a resident of Bridle Creek,
on Jul 1, 2016 at 3:56 pm

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Ok, so after waiting a while I finally had a chance to pump gas today at the Safeway station on Bernal near the fairgrounds. I purposely waited because I wanted to see just how long it took to fill up my cars 18 gallon tank, which I think is probably average tank capacity.

Here is the methodology:
1. Drove up to the tank and as soon as I stopped at the tank, I noted the time.
2. Used the debit/credit card instead of going into the store to pay.
3. Pumped until it stopped and then no more.
4. Printed the receipt.
5. got back into my seat and stopped the timer as soon as I drove clear of the pump.

All told, I was at the pump 7 1/2 min.

So, given the time, I was able to calculate the following 60min/7.5min=8 fill-ups per pump per hour.

Given a 10 hour business day that would equate to 80 fill-ups per pump X 24 pumps = 1920 cars per business day, less on weekends.

1920 cars is full capacity. I'm not sure how they came up with the numbers they came up with but I suppose they use different averages.


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