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Is there some Indian family panhandling scam going on?

Original post made by PaulS on Aug 3, 2013

I had trouble finding a grocery item and had to drive to two Safeways and the Walmart in Pleasanton. At each outdoor mall, I was surprised to see a different Indian (or Pakistani) family of four begging for handouts close to the main entry intersection.

What are the odds that you would have three identical groups, appearing as husband, wife with two children, holding up similar cardboard signs panhandling at the same time in Pleasanton? This is very peculiar.

Has anyone else noticed these groups?

Comments (20)

Posted by Art, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 3, 2013 at 7:08 am

What's peculiar, in my view, is how someone in the 21st century can get so exercised by a family of four begging for food.

We still have a long way to go if we are ever to have a society free of the kinds of hatred so frequently exemplified on the PW site.


Posted by Ernesto, a resident of Jensen Tract
on Aug 3, 2013 at 7:28 am

I've seen it both in Dublin and San Ramon, too. If Art chooses to get scammed, that's his right, but it looks like a scheme of some sort.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 3, 2013 at 12:31 pm

How come it important to know if the panhandlers are Indian or Pakistani? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...just asking...BUSTED!


Posted by Sam, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 3, 2013 at 12:39 pm

I see the folks asking for donations for charities outside Lucky, Raley's, etc. The charities themselves are legitimate; however, nationally only 17% of the money donated actually makes it to the charity. The other 83% goes to pay the person collecting the donations, administrative fees, etc.

If you want to donate to a charity, and want most of your money to actually make it there, you should donate directly. Cash, checks, credit, whatever, they'll take it all.


Posted by Callcutta???, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 3, 2013 at 3:49 pm

Genuine charities are one thing, but begging like Calcutta or Delhi is something else. Where's their 'sponsor'???? We do still 'require' 'sponsors'. . . don't we ? ? ? For a century sponsors had to be 'responsible' for immigrants. Who changed that??? I hope they are not unemployed.


Posted by anon, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 3, 2013 at 5:54 pm

@calcutta??? Why do you assume they are illegal. I see a caucasian family of 3 coming out of parking lot at walmart doing the same thing, i see a single white male on the corner at valley/santa rita...no one comments about them.


Posted by Mary, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 4, 2013 at 10:42 am

I think Sam's suggestion is right on. It makes me incredibly sad to see children being used as props in these situations. Making donations through reputable charities is in my opinion the right way to go so there might be help for these struggling families but not encouraging the begging, especially when children are used as props. If the need is that desperate, let one parent go to a park with the kids while the other asks for handouts. Having kids as props my increase profits, but it's unfair to the children involved.


Posted by Remembering, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 4, 2013 at 3:02 pm

anon,can't you read? Why did you jump to conclusions? Illegals were not mentioned, and are not the topic. For a century LEGAL immigrants had to have a US SPONSOR, 'responsible' for the immigrants they sponsored. IF and when the immigrant had difficulties their sponsor filled the gap.(sometimes they were relatives). Most did not need to impose on their sponsors because immigrants of past wanted to immediately learn English and assimilate, BE American, not expecting handouts. It's a concept not used as much these days, pride and integrity.
Congressional whoxxx in recent decades have allowed LEGALs without sponsors AND illegals to step up in the goodie lines for a long list of freebies.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 4, 2013 at 3:19 pm

If "freebies" are indeed "freebies", what's the problem if folks accept a "freebies"?

What exactly is a freebie and who qualifies for freebies?


Posted by Remembering, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 4, 2013 at 4:31 pm

Cholo, I know you're on the receiving end yourself, and also like PUBLIC unions living off taxpayers. Those are all freebies. By definition, A freebie is something that took many hard working taxpayer hours and dollars to provide.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 4, 2013 at 5:05 pm

Union workers pay taxes. What exactly have you provided...details please.

What do you mean by "PUBLIC"? Please explain what you mean by "is".

thank you kindly...


Posted by Smiley Face, a resident of Castlewood
on Aug 5, 2013 at 10:20 am

The guy who holds a cardboard sign with his 2 kids at Walmart looks Caucasian to me. I guess poverty does not discriminate...where the heck are his "sponsors"??? LOL!


Posted by Remembering, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 5, 2013 at 11:24 am

The author's title and subject of article was "different Indian (or Pakistani)"........implying immigrants. So I made IMMIGRANT topics. We all know union loving, public taker Cholo throws drags in questions and topics diverting from author's subject.
Educated people who know about and care about our laws of a few short years ago, are aware of the law and requirement of SPONSORS for any and all immigrants... to not burden taxpayers residing in US.
All having to do with 'responsibility'. Somehow I've been made responsible for any breeder, ready to drop, which means I suddenly have to provide her hospital, housing, food, their education, then explain to my one and only that I can't help her through school like I had planned. I'm made responsible for the irresponsible. Sponsors (not me) should be their fallback. Actually, it is the pope who should be responsible. He visits the poorest country (catholic of course). Next poorest Mexico, no surprise there, catholic. He is cruel to expect poor to continue breeding to save his church and starve the children of already starving families. With world food shortages, such irresponsibility is disgusting. There should be free condoms everywhere and included with all foreign aid.
I very much believe in sponsors for all. stop expecting responsible US taxpayers to care for all irresponsible everywhere, including here.


Posted by Smiley Face, a resident of Castlewood
on Aug 5, 2013 at 12:18 pm

@ Remembering - there are Americans of Indian and Pakistani descent in this country so who is to say that they are immigrants? Or did I miss that on their cardboard sign?

How about we look at this as extending a helping hand to the needy and simply helping a fellow human being? Always be grateful that you have the ability to help the less fortunate.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 5, 2013 at 4:22 pm

I say REACH FOR THE PEACH!

IF THE PEACH IS FREE, WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED, TAKE MY ADVICE AND

REACH FOR THE PEACH!

i rest my case...


Posted by Remembering, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 5, 2013 at 7:18 pm

Smiley, nice if 'you have the ability to help the less fortunate'. Precisely my point. Life is not constant, WE have moments of difficulties in our families also, but make wise decisions and adjustments, & quietly provide for self...he purpose of "sponsors".
When taxpayers are MADE responsible for others, it is unfair to the taxpayer to adjust their own private lives, because the government makes us provide 'programs; for others who didn't make adjustments.
Rather than me thru government, newcomers, regardless of status, should have 'sponsors'. Personal choice, personal responsibility.


Posted by Art, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 6, 2013 at 7:25 am

The hatred continues....

Who knows whether they are immigrants? Who knows whether they have a sponsor (lots of laughs, that one)? Who knows what their story is, why they include their children when begging?

Funny thing - actually not so funny - is that none of you has stopped by and asked any of these questions. Instead, while running full-speed past these folks who are a threat to your comfort zone (bubble world), you pause only a summon up reasons to bash them.

Shameful. They are better than you.


Posted by trending_down, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 6, 2013 at 11:34 am

Wondering if your demand for accountability and responsibility extends to your corporate overlords, the likely 'sponsors' of these folks.

Yeah. Didn't think so.


Posted by For an Example of what happens, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 11, 2013 at 11:19 am

For an example of what happens when you do not have an effective immigration policy look at the native Americans!
The new "immigrants" (who also have no interest in learning our customs or language) will treat us no better.
And why are we still calling them "Indians" when that was a mistake made by Chistofer Columbus?


Posted by Tonto, a resident of Apperson Ridge
on Aug 11, 2013 at 12:53 pm

What do you mean "we," kemosabe?


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