Aggressive Door-to-Door Solicitors? Around Town, posted by Sam, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Jan 15, 2013 at 6:12 pm
Anyone noticed an increase in aggressive door-to-door solicitors recently? It seems that in our Oak Hill neighborhood there have been a lot of solicitors trying to sell magazine subscriptions who just won't take "no" for an answer. I just dealt with one who gruffly stomped off when I told him I couldn't help him. I'm getting rather tired dealing with them. They seem to be coming in from Hayward, Oakland and other nearby areas.
Posted by Pete , a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 15, 2013 at 7:38 pm
"They seem to be coming in from Hayward,Oakland and other nearby areas." Are you kidding me? I'm tired too... magazine solicitors from Atherton, Corte Madera, Yountville, Piedmont, Sausilito, Napa, Tiburon, Orinda, Danville, Woodside, Belvedere, Sonoma, Saratoga, Los Altos Hills and Pleasanton are interupting my afternoon naps.
Posted by Elizabeth, a resident of the Pleasanton Valley neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 12:34 am
I'm with Cholo - don't answer the door. I don't open the door to strangers, period. My little dog barks like a German Shepherd and I just peek out the window until I see that the person has moved on. I don't want to put a "No Soliciting" sign up because I like to buy Girl Scout cookies and other items from the neighborhood kids for their school fundraisers.
Posted by liberalism is a disease, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 10:07 am liberalism is a disease is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Unfortunately, No Soliciting signs don't work. I put one up a few years ago with the assumption that door to door solicitors: a) could actually read; b) comprehend what they are reading; c) obey your request to not be disturbed by unwanted strangers on your property.
Video surveillence might be a good option to screen the trespassers. It also helps homeowners who have had their UPS and Fedex packages stolen from their porch.
Posted by D, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 10:14 am
Be careful not answering the door....sometimes they think no one is home and then they break in. PPD recommends leaving the door closed and telling they through a closed door that you are not interested. We have had dozens of break ins in our neighborhood over the last 12 months.
True: the NO SOLICITING signs don't work. The few times I have opened the door I ask them if they can read and point to the sign
Posted by Steve, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 10:28 am
It may be our Dear Leader's bastion of canvasser spies whose real intention is to gather more data on us. Like whose home, who answers their door, who puts no soliciting signs on their door, and especially who is using surveillance cameras and equipment. They think they need to know these things as prelude to the liberal apocalipse when they come after our constitutionally guaranteed military assault rifles and anti-aircraft missile launchers.
Posted by Steve, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 11:55 am
Our elitits Dear Leader and his family doesn't have to worry about soliciters at the White House, yet he seems to think us common people should have to suffer. Notice the double standard? Instead of giving my tax money to entitlement groups, maybe he could put armed guards at major thoroughfares running into and out of Pleasanton who could check the door to door soliciters from Oakland before they have the chance to frighten all of us good folks in Pleasanton.
Posted by Mike, a resident of the Pleasanton Meadows neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 3:10 pm
We have the same problem in our neighborhood. We get a lot of people outside of Pleasanton, selling magazine and other stuff. They've come knocking on the doors, even at 9:00 PM. I will yell through the doors that we are NOT interested. I believe Pleasanton has an oridiance to have a permit. In the past, I've asked to see the permit to see if the solictors are following the law.
Posted by Mike, a resident of the Highland Oaks neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 4:07 pm
The Internet has rendered both print media and door-to-door solicitation irrelevant, and no one should be required to put up with the inconvenience of having to respond to solicitors knocking at the door.
The city could and should pass an ordinance banning solicitation outright.
Posted by Sam, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Mike wrote: "The city could and should pass an ordinance banning solicitation outright."
I don't really mind solicitations from local community groups such as the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts, or fund raising for local high school sports teams. But I do have problems with these aggressive solicitors hawking magazines who don't appear to be from the local area. In the past I've sometimes helped with a donation depending on my mood, but due to this latest encounter with a very pushy and aggressive solicitor I'm now making it a policy to say a flat "No" to any more of these solicitors from outside our city. I hope that they take their act elsewhere.
Posted by Sam, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Jan 17, 2013 at 10:05 am
Mae wrote: "I would like to hear from the Police Dept on this. I have heard that to try to sell something door to door here in Pleasanton they are supposed to have a permit from the city. Is there any truth to this??"
I called up the Pleasanton Police for information after the incident, and the police operator on the line told me that, "yes", they do need to have a permit from the city and need to show it to you on request. Of course, I have no idea what a real permit is supposed to look like.
The police operator also said that if a solicitor is being overly aggressive or causing troubles then give them a call and they'll send a patrol car out to deal with the person. From my past experience, the Pleasanton Police seem to respond fairly quickly to even low-priority calls so that may be a good idea.
Posted by Steve, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Jan 17, 2013 at 10:53 am
The best response is to go out and buy yourself a half-dozen military assault weapons. Put them prominently on display so that any "soliciter" standing at your front door will be able to see them mounted on your living room wall. This way, you protect yourself and stimulate the economy. More jobs, not less guns!!!
Posted by Claudette , a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 17, 2013 at 11:03 am
Yes, ask for a permit and that either sends them on their way or they pull one out that shows "some other city." Also check the date.
I inform solicitors that the police patrol my neighborhood frequently and pick up people that don't have permits from Pleasanton, when they solicit, so "Get your Permit Updated and come back" that works every time ~ This puts the ball back in their court, and the fear of being picked up by the police. Needless to say they never return.
Posted by Sam, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Jan 17, 2013 at 2:07 pm
Glenn Wohltmann wrote: "Unfortunately, the First Amendment allows for people to go door-to-door. Please see our story that explains."
Excuse me, Glenn, but I read the article that you linked and it only indicates that there is a 1st Amendment (i.e., "free speech) issue with the city enforcing their "no after dark" soliciting rule. But this same article seems to indicate that a a city permit is still required for solicitors. They can't just go out and solicit funds without a permit by claiming that their actions are covered by "free speech", correct?
Anyway, thanks for bringing up the "no after dark" city policy concerning solicitors. The angry solicitor I had to deal with was indeed out after dark (about 6pm). Even if the ability of the city to enforce this provision may be questionable due to "free speech" issues, as a private individual I am free to adopt my own personal "no after dark" solicitation policy with these aggressive out-of-town solicitors.
Posted by Sam, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Jan 17, 2013 at 2:34 pm
Actually, it seems that my question above was answered by a Pleasanton Police press release in March of last year. Yes, Pleasanton does have a permit requirement for solicitors but enforcement of the requirement is hampered by a Supreme Court 1st-Amendment decision. HOWEVER, there is nothing preventing us as private citizens from enforcing our own "no permit - no solicitation" rule to anyone who comes to our doors.
Pleasanton Police press release on solicitors is here:(Web Link)
Posted by Janet Yarbrough, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Jan 18, 2013 at 9:49 am
Three of them were in our court yesterday afternoon. I didn't answer the door. It appears no one on the court answered their door. Called my son in law to have him install a peep hole in the door this weekend.
Posted by Steve, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Jan 18, 2013 at 10:07 am
Magazine sellers exercising their supposed First Amendment rights must take a back seat to my Second Amendment rights to threaten with a double-barrell shotgun, or a military assualt weapon of my choosing, those who dayne walk up my driveway. I totally agreed with Disease. It's unAmerican to put the First Amendment on a pedastule over our most important Second Amendment.
We must impeach King Obama if the Republic is to be protected from the jackbooted ones who, once our military assault weapons are removed, will next try to extend Section Eight housing and the "rights" of union scum to collectively organize for purposes of raising the price of consumer goods.
Posted by Sam, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Jan 18, 2013 at 10:09 am
"liberalism" wrote: "The 2nd amendment will help take care of this 1st amendment intrusion on your privacy on your property. A double barrel shotgun at the front door is way more effective that any No Soliciting sign."