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Downtown Pleasanton Hate Speech

Original post made by Mrs. Fields, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Aug 31, 2013

Yesterday I encountered a very disturbing sight in downtown Pleasanton. A man was spouting hateful things, all boiling down to how all of us are going to hell. This was a very disturbing occurrence for me, as I have two small children whom were both scared by this man. I realize that the police cannot ask him to leave (Freedom of Speech protects him), but hypothetically could someone bring speakers and play music over his hate speeches? Pleasanton is my home, and I want to keep it safe and quiet.

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Posted by Right
a resident of Birdland
on Aug 31, 2013 at 2:42 pm

Yes I heard the guy. He was some kind of union troll telling everyone they'd go to hell if they didn't support fast food workers. Our children won't be safe until we do away with unions.


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Posted by Pete
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 31, 2013 at 7:49 pm

"as I have two small children whom were both scared by this man" They were with you...their parent. Why be scared? Maybe explain, Freedom of Speech to the children and then give them a cookie...Mrs. Fields.


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2013 at 10:14 am

If this is the same fellow I'm thinking of, he was at the Farmers' Market on the East side (the Main St side). I went up to him and stood very close and took some pictures. This bothered him a bit but he soon went on with his speech. Not much you can do about him. If your kids are old enough, he provides a good teaching moment concerning the right to free speech.


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Posted by Right
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 1, 2013 at 11:20 am

I think Joe says it well. If you hear someone in the public square voicing an idea, do your best to bother them. You know, stand real close with a menacing posture, photograph them, point fingers at them, let them know that they're being watched -- you know, anything to intimidate them. Our children can learn a lot from this teaching moment.


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Posted by right on!
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 1, 2013 at 11:26 am

Yeah Joe! when someone is exercising their right of free speech, and you don't like what they have to say, you should intimidate them.


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Sep 1, 2013 at 3:27 pm

London's Hyde Park has a nice setup.

FOS is important enough to defend with guns, but there also has to be consideration for the environment. I don't feel FOS gives license to interrupt others who are involved in an activity that a location is set up for unless the speaker is expressing a grievance that is specifically related to that location.

Mike


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2013 at 4:55 pm

You misunderstand, I'm 100% in favor of free speech, but not when I'm not given a choice as to whether I have to listen or not.


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Posted by Right
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 1, 2013 at 8:25 pm

Joe, I guess you can't simply turn and walk away, eh? No, instead you attempt to menace them? Yes, Joe, I'm with you. This country would be a lot better for everyone if every time they didn't like what someone was saying in public they got up into the speaker's grill so as to intimidate them. Yes, doing that and rolling back restrictive gun laws would really turn this country around.


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Posted by right
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2013 at 8:42 pm

It's so true, right. All those times you've protested at those baby killing clinics and not one pro choice advocate has gotten in your face. The first amendment works for everyone, not just you ignorant leftists.


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Posted by Right
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 1, 2013 at 9:36 pm

Ah yes, those high-minded ones who seek to intimidate and frighten women who seek an abortion. And pro-choice folks getting into their faces. How ignorant of them. And gosh, yes, shouldn't we be able to intimidate these women's defenders just like we intimidate the women?

Isn't it about time you begin advocating for more gun ownership?


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2013 at 9:47 pm

"Right," you miss the point. Yes I could have walked away, but I chose not to. Not when some guy's screaming on the corner and denying anybody their own right to simply not listen.

Funny, though, how I've spent more time explaining this to you than I spent up-close looking at that guy yelling.


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Posted by Right
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 1, 2013 at 11:34 pm

What amendment covers the right 'to simply not listen'? So, it must sort of be like 'you have freedom of speech until in infringes on my right to not listen.' That's a good one, Joe. I bet you're a professor of constitutional law, just like our president, yes?


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Posted by Claudette McDermott
a resident of Del Prado
on Sep 2, 2013 at 9:52 am

Claudette McDermott is a registered user.

Mr/Ms Right is very much like the street "Screamer," he's trying to get a rise out of who ever is in yelling distance :)

Pop in a pair of earplugs and ignore the annoying scamp, or find another place to enjoy for the day because yes, the police can not chase this irritating creature from his/her perch, then perhaps he/she will go away.

Taking pictures will only give rise to his/her purpose and make him/her feel like a celebrity.


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