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The Italians are here

Original post made by Curious, Del Prado, on Aug 23, 2013

They say variety is the spice of life, but that does not seem to be true when it comes to cuisine in downtown Pleasanton. While I applaud the opening of another small business in Pleasanton, providing jobs and tax revenue, I am curious if another Italian restaurant is needed on Main Street.

I wish Mangia Mi much success, but I wish their market research had indicated Pleasanton did not need another Italian place but rather something like First Street Ale House or Sauced in Livermore.

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Posted by Curious
a resident of Del Prado
on Aug 23, 2013 at 3:33 pm

Mangia Mi is the 11th Italian restaurant on Main Street and the 15th Italian place in Pleasanton exclusing pizza-only establishments.


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Posted by liberalism is a disease
a resident of Birdland
on Aug 23, 2013 at 3:40 pm

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

Don't eat here, curious. Or, open your own restaurant serving vegetarian weeds and grass clippings. I'm sure the diners downtown will vote with their wallets where they'd rather eat. There's a good reason these Italian restaurants thrive downtown...most people like Italian food. Otherwise, they would never survive.


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2013 at 6:44 pm

The previous post is a little smart-a**, but fundamentally it's correct. Voting with your wallet is fundamentally correct. When there are too many Italian restaurants downtown, some will close and become something else.

It's a bit like wondering why, on an intersection of two streets with a total of four corners, there are three gas stations. It's because people are buying enough gas to support all three.


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2013 at 6:56 pm

Some goods and services aren't allowed to be driven by the market because of legislation. Taxicabs are a prime example. Long ago many cities, SF included, decided that they would determine how many taxicabs would be allowed on the streets. The idea was that by keeping tabs on taxis, the city could insure that cabs kept to a minimum safety standard and that each cab driver was making enough money to keep his or her cab on the road, thus ensuring that cab rides would be available to the general public.

A good idea in theory, but bad in practice. Now a cab "medallion" or city-issued permit to operate sells for $100K or more. The whole medallion market has spun out of control, to become both wildly profitable and incredibly protected. As a result, cab companies are able to wield their clout and stifle modern-day ride alternatives like Sidecar, Lyft, and Uber.

Taxi rates are also set by law. I can't purchase a medallion and then try to increase my business by offering a discount.

Elsewhere, notably in Portland and Nashville, large politically-connected limo companies have been able to get the city governments to install legal price-fixing for their services, just like they do for cabs. Smaller limo companies offering rates below those set by law have been prosecuted and put out of business, so as not to "unfairly" compete with the established companies.

I do like Italian food, by the way.


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Posted by Steve
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2013 at 11:59 pm

Unfortunately, downtown Pleasanton is increasingly a non-factor for many of us. Virtually all $ we used to spend here are now spent in downtown Livermore. Really a shame, actually.


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Posted by Map
a resident of Del Prado
on Aug 27, 2013 at 6:22 pm

I like Italian food. If Mangia Mia makes it more power to them, would have been nice to have something different like Havana's or a Norms burgers but hey it's not a bank or a massage parlor so I'm happy, as long as they don't hire illegals and avoid paying their taxes I will support them if the food is good.


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Posted by Et tu Caesar
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 27, 2013 at 7:46 pm

(Post removed by Pleasanton Weekly Online staff as irrelevant to this thread.)


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Posted by Don
a resident of Downtown
on Aug 28, 2013 at 11:25 pm

This town needs nightlife...DESPERATELY. Just go over to Livermore and see how they managed to do it. I mean, how many more nail salons, hair salons and restaurants do we need? We need something with a flair like a cool tavern, a southern speak-easy or a lounge bar. Sad when the only place with some history/personality is the Past Time Pool dive...:(


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 13, 2013 at 6:16 pm

The few bucks and dimes/pennies that you report as big money are not a great loss to Pleasanton or much of a benefit to the economy of Livermore.

thank you for puffing...


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