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Blatant Disregard for Community Protocols

Original post made by concerned citizen on Mar 15, 2013

In response to David Miller's putting up campaign signs in violation of the suggested protocol-- Yesterday, my husband and I were walking around noon in front of Alisal Elementary school when we saw a truck drive by with large signs advertising David Miller for City Council. Given your blatant disregard for Pleasanton's suggested protocol on something as simple as sign posting, why would anyone trust you in elected office if you're not willing to observe even the simplest of civic protocols? Way to lose votes and public confidence.

Comments (25)

Posted by Patriotism First, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 15, 2013 at 4:24 pm

David is about freedom. He'll save us from poor people, communist bike riders, union thugs and people paid to write such squirrelus posts. To disagree with him makes you a sociolist.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Mar 15, 2013 at 7:34 pm

well now...god save the queen...after all, community standars rule! tee hee


Posted by Sal, a resident of Downtown
on Mar 16, 2013 at 12:56 pm

What do expect from a Tea Party member? The rules don't apply to you when you are fighting public school teachers, investigating the UN takeover of Pleasanton, and wearing a tri-corner hat while sitting in your lawn chair at the fairgrounds. In the last election, Obama won 57% of the vote in Pleasanton to Romney's 40%. This is NOT a "Tea Party Town" no matter how much noise and bluster they make. Democrats are the silent majority in Pleasanton.


Posted by Bob Dennis, a resident of Mariposa Ranch
on Mar 16, 2013 at 11:18 pm

I see nothing wrong with Free Speech and the 1st Amendment. I saw Dave Miller's sign driving around Walnut Grove and Harvest Park. The car obeyed all rules of the road (which is more than some of the parents arriving late, in a hurry, and blocking people's driveways).

I support Dave, he just needs people to know his name and views and he'll get votes. Other candidates who have served on too many City policy groups won't think for themselves. We need to shake things up at City Hall! Dave's Da Man to do that.


Posted by justwondering, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 17, 2013 at 10:41 am

Bob, exactly how many city policy group meetings have you attended? I bet the truth be known zero. Yet, typical tea party, another statement with no facts to back it up.

Lots of citizens have worked tirelessly to try and keep this City great. We don't need someone to shake things up such that we end up with more unwinable lawsuits which is what will happen if we just fight things without concrete specifics as Dave is proposing. All that will do is put more money in attorney's pockets and leave us with no money to fund the amenenties that we all want. Remember, we've already spent $3 million dollars on an unwinable lawsuit that could have funded a lot of different things such as sports fields, the second bridge on Bernal, library services etc.


Posted by To: just wondering, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 17, 2013 at 11:09 am

"Lots of citizens have worked tirelessly to try and keep this City great. We don't need someone to shake things up such that we end up with more unwinable lawsuits which is what will happen if we just fight things without concrete specifics as Dave is proposing"

- what unwinable lawsuits? What is he proposing?

"All that will do is put more money in attorney's pockets and leave us with no money to fund the amenenties that we all want."

- I'm all for more amenities but I have know idea what you're talking about.

"Remember, we've already spent $3 million dollars on an unwinable lawsuit that could have funded a lot of different things such as sports fields, the second bridge on Bernal, library services etc."

- Are you saying that a first time candidate for city council is somehow responsible for what you consider to be poor decisions of past city councils, that cost Pleasanton 3 million dollars "that could have funded a lot of different things such as sports fields, the second bridge on Bernal, library services etc."?

I'm just starting my research of the candidates but I've already concluded that your opinion is very suspect at best. Why don't we focus on finding the best candidate, whomever that might be?


Posted by justwondering, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 17, 2013 at 11:36 am

TJW, I'm saying that the City was sued over not following the state housing laws over the last several years. That cost the City $3million in legal fees that could have been used for positive things for the City instead. When I spoke with Miller yesterday at the Farmer's Market, he said the City should have fought harder and not accepted the housing laws. That says to me more lawsuits that the City can't win and therefore more money to attorneys rather then using the money (our tax dollars) for city amenenities.

I'm in no way saying that a first time candidate is responsible for past Council decisions. But I'd feel a whole lot better about Miller if he seemed aware of what's taken place and how to avoid past mistakes which I didn't get from him.

Anybody can say they'd fight something and sound good but I'm looking for a candidate with specific ideas not just good rhetoric. I didn't get that from Miller yesterday.


Posted by john, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 17, 2013 at 12:15 pm

"Anybody can say they'd fight something and sound good but I'm looking for a candidate with specific ideas not just good rhetoric. I didn't get that from Miller yesterday."

Yes, exactly. I'm looking for a practical leader, rather than someone who will take an extreme stand that will only end up costing the city more.


Posted by JT, a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Mar 17, 2013 at 4:08 pm

$3million in legal fees will seem like CHUMP change, when Pleasanton's residents are asked to pay bonds and parcel taxes, for the burden of the unmitigated development that is being forced on Pleasanton.
I am ashamed of the we are "victims of the law suite" mantra that our city leaders have taken. I want to see strong leadership that will stand up for Pleasanton. Other communities are pushing back but we are victims.


Posted by anon, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm

@concerned Citizen from Downtown: "In response to David Miller's putting up campaign signs in violation of the suggested protocol-"

Operative word 'SUGGESTED'

Nowhere is it mandatory.


Posted by e, a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Mar 17, 2013 at 7:57 pm

I think we would hope that our community leaders would abide by suggested protocol.


Posted by Pete , a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 17, 2013 at 9:22 pm

Mike Harris, who withdrew from Pleasanton's last council race (2012), received over 6000 votes. Those claiming, that a mail-in ballot election falls within the parameters of a standard participating format... are the ones who are subversive. That is your right...but don't fault Mr. Miller for participating within his capacity to understand what his needs are...to win and represent the City Council...with one vote.


Posted by anon, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 18, 2013 at 9:17 am

It is SUGGESTED your tip service workers 15 %, do you tip all service workers 15%?


Posted by Dave, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 18, 2013 at 11:49 am

It is SUGGESTED that one take off one's muddy boots before tramping across one's neighbor's carpet. That's never stopped me. I can spread my dirt wherever I want.


Posted by durtee boots, a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Mar 18, 2013 at 5:50 pm

if i sign an agreement that i will take off my muddy boots before entering your home, and then i don't, i am a liar. i broke no laws, but my word means nothing. much like mr. miller's.


Posted by Pete, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 18, 2013 at 9:28 pm

Irrespondsible maybe...


Posted by liberalism is a disease, a resident of Birdland
on Mar 19, 2013 at 9:36 am

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

Funny how the leftists posting here all line up to feign outrage over an alleged 'suggested protocol', but if this were the former hippy mayor, they would cry 'free speech', stamp their feet and cry until they get what they want.
Now, because they don't agree with Mr. Miller's positions (as if they've spent time studying them, rather than labelling the man and hurling insults) they want to stifle free speech.

Interesting to see the hypocrisy of the left in action.


Posted by Chemist, a resident of Downtown
on Mar 19, 2013 at 10:10 am

Why are you liberal numb skulls all worried about yard signs? I'm not as concerned about suggested protocols as I am about city council members who are funded by developers and unions and who have no real interest in my interests as a Pleasanton resident and taxpayer. By the way, I put my very own "Vote for David Miller" sign up all by myself. I did not get Dave's approval. I did not get Dave's help. It just seems like mid March is the right time to put up signs for an election that starts the first week of April. Go Dave!


Posted by Truth, a resident of Birdland
on Mar 19, 2013 at 2:27 pm

Dave Miller is a cheater....and a politician. Please read the original thread concerning the signs and you will see his response to the criticisim...he scolded the folks who were expressing their points of view. He thinks about himself and his belief only. If he is elected he has proven he wil not listen to the will of the people, rather, he will do as he sees fit regardless of the people he has been elected to serve. Pleasanton does not need a self serving tool bag like Miller....let's reward hard working candidates who have proven their dedication to this community.


Posted by Dave is a good candidate, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 19, 2013 at 4:14 pm

"Dave Miller is a cheater....and a politician. Please read the original thread concerning the signs and you will see his response to the criticisim...he scolded the folks who were expressing their points of view."

- according to Truth, who seems to have his own agenda.

Dave Miller is a Pleasanton resident, parent of school age children, and someone that has challenged the city regarding their finances, employee contracts, and unfunded pension liabilities. I applaud him for his efforts in bringing attention to these very important topics. And I suspect there are certain groups that are attacking him for doing so.

In a time when special interest groups, and special interest money, seem to rule the roost when promoting candidates for both state & local government (and getting them elected) it is beyond refreshing to see a Pleasanton citizen come forward just because he believes Pleasanton can be even better.

Dave doesn't have any ties to either public employee unions or developers that I'm aware of and for me that is important. It's very difficult to find good candidates, that are often ridiculed and bashed by opposing forces with money, and that's what's happening here, to subject themselves and their family to this level of scrutiny. How many other candidates have been a target on the PW forum?

I'm not telling anyone who to vote for. I do hope whomever people cast their ballot towards doesn't owe their campaign contributors remuneration of any kind, or any other form of back-end compensation. Hopefully people will look past the glossy fliers and well funded endorsements, ignore the attacks that are already coming from the special interests, and choose a candidate that puts Pleasanton first.


Posted by excuseme, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 19, 2013 at 6:01 pm

Dave is a member of the tea party--isn't that a special interest group of the Republican Party?

Have the candidates filed disclosures on their finances? What is the basis for your statement "special interest money"? Is not his emails asking fellow tea partiers for donations to his campaign a use of special interest money?

Have any of the unions come out in support of a candidate? You infer that one of the candidates is backed by the unions. . .facts please!

I have seen emails authored by both Miller and his wife attacking other candidates on innuendos and rumors--are you saying that's ok but not ok for comments on the PW forum? How does that make sense?

You are making a lot of statements can you back them up with facts or is this the typical tea party mantra of lots of rhetoric but no facts to support the statements? Please advise.


Posted by Mr. Geeneyuss, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 19, 2013 at 6:02 pm

I hear David Miller used to pull the wings off butterflies...you know, on the internet so it HAD to be true, right?

sheesh!


Posted by Jaclyn M., a resident of Deer Oaks/Twelve Oaks
on Mar 19, 2013 at 6:06 pm

Have had our Miller signs up in our front yard and in front of our business for 2 weeks only to have to replace them three times due to vandalism.

Classy move on behalf of the whiners in Pleasanton, real classy.


Posted by Patriotism First, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 19, 2013 at 9:09 pm

I've always found Dave Miller to be a really classey guy, not like the whiners and losers who are in tandam with unions and other liberals and the developers and the sickoes who think being fruity is jkay. And no, I am not posting as Jaclyn M, Mr. Geenyus, chemist (bartender), anon, liberalism is a disease, Steve, and Bob Dennis. Those are other people, other then myself. Honest. I am not the only supporter of Tea Party Freedom on hear.


Posted by To: excuse me, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 19, 2013 at 9:16 pm

"Dave is a member of the tea party--isn't that a special interest group of the Republican Party?"

I consider it a grass roots group that's fiscally conservative. I'm not even sure the republicans would agree with your statement. While I'm not a member I do support their core values. I'm also aware that some hate what the tea party stands for (or have been told to do so) and want to marginalize their efforts every chance they get. I've just read a statement from a union supporter that says, "we need to marginalize the tea-party".

"Have any of the unions come out in support of a candidate?"

Not yet, but that doesn't mean anything. I did see Tom Pico's name as an endorsement. That scares me. I voted for the guy, an accountant - CPA, neighbor, and he let us all down. Tom Pico and Jennifer Hosterman might be the two people most responsible for the 200 million dollars of unfunded pension & healthcare liability that the Pleasanton taxpayers owe to employees for work that's already been performed.

I'm looking for a council member that represents the best interests of the guy that works all day and doesn't have the time or energy to check on the people that are suppose to be working for the people.


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