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Original post made by Mal on Dec 5, 2011

I see that Dublin is getting a new BJ's restaurant at the new target shopping center, if it's anything like the one in Fremont it will be a nice addition, what are we getting, hey how about that new McDonalds they say is coming to the new Safeway shopping center,GREAT, how many is that now in one town 3 soon to be 4 time to chop Ronald off at the knee caps, no more fast food.

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Posted by barb, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Dec 6, 2011 at 8:51 am

I would just be so happy if we could get an Olive Garden in the Tri-Valley area!


Posted by Silly, a resident of Downtown
on Dec 6, 2011 at 9:00 am

What is a BJ?


Posted by member, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Dec 6, 2011 at 9:01 am

I agree that we have enough McD restaurants - I think it will reallty cheapen the new Safeway shopping center. Is this the image we want we people come to our fairgrounds??


Posted by Gary, a resident of Pleasanton Middle School
on Dec 6, 2011 at 9:04 am

Why don't we have Olive Garden, Res Lobster, Sizzler,... the list goes on. Is there some ban in the Tri-Valley for these chain restaurants?


Posted by macd, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 6, 2011 at 9:06 am

We have a McD at the Mall, inside Walmart, Santa Rita at 580, Bernal/Valley - that makes 4 that are already here. PLEASE, anything but MacD at the new Safeway.


Posted by Foodie, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 6, 2011 at 9:52 am

Guess they want to align the food choices with the low-income housing they're going to build there...


Posted by Bill, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Dec 6, 2011 at 10:13 am

BJs is a chain..Check out bjsresturants.com


Posted by Barbara R, a resident of Dublin
on Dec 6, 2011 at 10:35 am

I have contacted the parent company of Olive Garden, Red Lobster, etc many times over the years as I too feel they would be a great addition to the tri-valley area but their response has always been that their demographics don't support opening any of them in this area. Some of you may recall we did have a Red Lobster located across from what is now Sprouts Grocery which closed maybe 15yrs ago. Sadly as much as I have hounded them over the years since, they won't budge.


Posted by Mrs. B, a resident of Mohr Park
on Dec 6, 2011 at 10:46 am

Gosh...I am so happy we do not have any of those facilities. Olive Garden is not real Italian food...its awful! Go to Strizzi's or Frankie,Johnny, and Luigi's for some really great Italian food that will cost you less than Olive Garden. As for BJ's, I know the older teens and the 20 somethings like it to drink and party. Thats about the only use for the place. As for McDonalds.....thats not food, its toxic waste being dumped into the human body. If it was up to me, I would ban most chain resturants and all fast food joints.


Posted by Foodie, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 6, 2011 at 11:05 am

We've taken our kids to the BJs at the Tanforan mall in San Bruno, and it was rather family-friendly... so that's a plus. And the louder the drinkers, the less I have to worry about my kids' screaming. :-)


Posted by Sally, a resident of Country Fair
on Dec 6, 2011 at 11:10 am

I wish we had a stizzler here. Forget McDonald's PLEASE


Posted by Foodie, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 6, 2011 at 11:12 am

All I've seen so far is suggestions for more chain restaurants. What about some locally owned restaurants instead?....
I'd like some more diversity in food options around here, period-- How many Italian places do we have downtown now? And how many sushi places?


Posted by a Neighbor, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 6, 2011 at 12:32 pm

BJ's is great. You will love it. Good place for it to be too.

As far as downtown Pleasanton or the new Safeway - NO more McDonald's, or Italian or Sushi restaurants in town is right. What about a bistro that is California cuisine? Something bright and cheery that does lunch and dinner, not as expensive as Stacey's though. Don't get me wrong, I love Stacey's, but I do not feel right taking the kids in there for a quick meal.




Posted by Joe, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 6, 2011 at 12:50 pm

You people just LOVE these corporate food chains, don't you?

I avoid them all like the plague!


Posted by People Have Weird Taste, a resident of Foothill High School
on Dec 6, 2011 at 3:39 pm

McDonalds, Sizzler, Olive Garden, Red Lobster? Are you <b>serious</b>? Those restaurants are <b>nasty</b>!

How about a Hillstone Group Restaurant such as Houston's/Rutherford Grill/Los Altos Grill type restaurant.


Posted by Proud Plutonian, a resident of Parkside
on Dec 6, 2011 at 3:51 pm

I relish the idea of seeing chain restaurant/fast food places as far as the eye can see. I see them as a measure of how great this country can be. Can't have too many of them in my opinion. Spain has its tapas bars, Britain has its pubs, and France has its hoity-toity cafes. I'll take US of A's good old fashioned Howard Johnsons or Dennys any day of the week.


Posted by Bud, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 6, 2011 at 8:25 pm

Eating at chain restaurants is like paying 20 to 30 bucks for a plate of TV dinners, since there is all they really serve you. Nuked frozen food. With the exception of the Olive Garden. They receive the meals in a plastic pouch that is thrown into a pot of boiling water. I guess that would be considered cooking more than nuking?


Posted by Proud Plutonian, a resident of Parkside
on Dec 6, 2011 at 9:00 pm

Hey Bud. Go to either Howard Johnsons or Dennys and read the menu. The menu says "HOME COOKED DINNERS." And what if it is frozen first? They thaw it out in order to cook it, and its world famous. Quit being such an elitist. Or go to Round Table. Watch them throw the pizza. Nothing frozen about it!


Posted by Bud, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 7, 2011 at 6:38 am

There are plenty of independent restaurants around town, where they actually cook. I would rather go to a taqueria anytime than step a foot inside a Deny's (that doesn't sound so elitist, does it?). I don't eat out os boxes and frozen pouches at my house, and I certainly will not pay 20x more to eat that stuff in one of those so called restaurants.

To each their own, that is the beauty of this country. You want to go pay to have massive produced assembly line type of food? Go right ahead. I'll go to the ma & pa around the corner and have a taco, thank you.


Posted by No Fast Food for Me, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 7, 2011 at 11:14 am

Eating at deny's is like eating at my aunt Mae's. I feel like I went back to the 50's. Everything is instant. Just mix water and heat it.

Urp!


Posted by Jack, a resident of Downtown
on Dec 7, 2011 at 8:23 pm

I remember once speaking to the owner of a downtown restaurant. He told me everything in his kitchen was made fresh, except for his lasagna... That he bought from Stouffer's. His best selling item? His lasagna! His quote, "The people of Pleasanton love frozen lasagna!"


Posted by Bud, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 8, 2011 at 6:31 am

Jack, your post tells a lot.

That brings to mind relatives who went to Paris and after 2 days they couldn't handle the food and had to find a McDonald's. Some people find comfort in food that they know and are used to.

Paying restaurant prices to eat Stouffer's will never happen on my clock though.

In a restaurant or at home.


Posted by Nasty Tastes, a resident of Foothill High School
on Dec 8, 2011 at 9:53 am

You all have the worst and nastiest taste when it comes to food! McDonalds, Burger King, Jack N the Box, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Black Angus, AppleBees, Chilis, Sizzler, Dennys, IHOP, etc, etc are all gross, disgusting, cheap and sorry excuses for food.

Bouchon, Boulevard, Gary Danko, even Ruth Chris would be better alternatives to the nasty stuff you all have suggested. If you can't suggest something worthwhile, please keep your suggestions to yourself.


Posted by Mort, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 8, 2011 at 11:10 am

I will go out to eat maybe 6 to 10 times a year. I am a firm believer in home cooked meals, from scratch. They do not have to be labor intensive, after all we have full time jobs, so not that much time to spend cooking. It is amazing what people find out when they try and cook. Grilled meats are fast and require no pot scrubbing. Baked potatoes and other root vegetables are as easy as can be. Steamed vegetables are healthy and easy also. I can go on forever, but that would take away from the original post.

Because at our house we actually cook instead of re-heat, we can taste these processed, instant foods they serve at chain restaurants. And I have to say, the taste is not pleasant at all. We stopped going to those places many many moons ago. We'll go to a ma & pa chinese or mexican restaurant, or bbq place on occasion. On a special occasion like an anniversary, I am happy to go to Wente's. A little too rich for my wallet, but the food is good and you know they are using good quality ingredients, and does it taste good.

I'll never forget a post here at the PW a while back. A reader wrote that he ordered a veal dish at a local restaurant, and he got 2 pieces of veal: same exact shape and size. Cooking from cans, jars and frozen processed ingredients is no longer limited to the chains. Some independents are also embracing the trend. The demand is there. Taste buds have evolved in the wrong direction.


Posted by Steve, a resident of Stoneridge
on Dec 8, 2011 at 12:00 pm

We need restaurants in the downtown area that can serve meals to a family of 4 for under $40. We don't need Ruths Chris, we need Asqew Grill. We certainly DON'T need Bouchon. We need Zao Noodles.

I'm so sick of downtown Pleasanton catering to the few wealthy people that live here. Our downtown is dying. Livermore is thriving. The word on the street is that young people are welcome in Livermore, and Pleasanton is no fun.

We don't need anymore restaurants with dinners priced over $25/plate. ENOUGH ALREADY!


Posted by Nasty Tastes, a resident of Foothill High School
on Dec 8, 2011 at 12:10 pm

"We need restaurants in the downtown area that can serve meals to a family of 4 for under $40"
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LOL good luck with that! Unless your family likes cheap, nasty food.

I will admit the restaurants on Main Street need to step up the quality of food served for the prices they're asking. Haps is just nasty. Stacey's has gone downhill - used to be pretty good, Baci - good, but way overpriced and the list goes on...


Posted by Aaron, a resident of Harvest Park Middle School
on Dec 8, 2011 at 12:13 pm

The Counter would be a nice addition to the area.


Posted by Steve, a resident of Stoneridge
on Dec 8, 2011 at 12:36 pm

I have eaten once in each downtown restaurant in 7 years. The only restaurant I keep returning to is High Tech Burrito.

I don't care about Baci's, Staci's, Haps, etc. quality because they don't offer anything I want. Where is there a good seafood restaurant? Not a seafood restaurant that could make the Michelin guide, just a good seafood restaurant like Market Broiler in Fremont.

Going out to eat isn't always a special occasion that should require an $80 meal. I go out to 5 Guys in Dublin for far less than $40. I go to On the Border for around $40 and Romano's Macaroni Grill for just over $40. I love Askew Grill in Emeryville and I never spend more than $40 for the family.

Shoot for 5-8 restaurants in downtown Pleasanton that serve $8-$15 meals and you'd see downtown come alive. Right now it caters to our parents.


Posted by Steve, a resident of Stoneridge
on Dec 8, 2011 at 12:39 pm

Also, The Counter looks interesting. Kind of like an organic Fuddruckers, huh?


Posted by Maria, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 8, 2011 at 9:12 pm

"I'm so sick of downtown Pleasanton catering to the few wealthy people that live here. Our downtown is dying. Livermore is thriving. The word on the street is that young people are welcome in Livermore, and Pleasanton is no fun."

Amen to that. Pretty much the only downtown restaurant I like to eat at is is Cafe Main, and sometimes one of the two frozen yogurt places.
I also agree about the lack of culinary diversity downtown-- we lost Casa Madrid to yet ANOTHER Italian restaurant (our... 4th? 5th? in that area of town?)


Posted by Bud, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 9, 2011 at 6:38 am

"I also agree about the lack of culinary diversity downtown-- we lost Casa Madrid to yet ANOTHER Italian restaurant (our... 4th? 5th? in that area of town?)"

And don't forget Claude & Dominique's, the only french restaurant we used to have. Now it is ANOTHER Indian restaurant.

Talk about lack of variety.


Posted by hoops, a resident of Mohr Park
on Dec 11, 2011 at 6:17 pm

Downtown P needs an ice cream parlor like Fentons.I can't believe there is nothing like that downtown.


Posted by Mal, a resident of Del Prado
on Dec 15, 2011 at 12:42 pm

Now that most of us agree that we don't need any more fast food restaurants, why is it that Dublin and Livermore seem to be getting a nice variety of restaurants other than fast food and all we seem to be getting are more hair/nail salons, and massage parlors, oh yeh throw in way too many banks!


Posted by Bud, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 15, 2011 at 1:06 pm

Actually, what we could use more of in Pleasanton is entertainment.
I spend a lot more money at the Bankhead than I do at the Firehouse.


Posted by Mal, a resident of Del Prado
on Dec 15, 2011 at 8:48 pm

Firehouse is really nice, would love to see more things going on there.as for the movies it's a shame we lost our theater, we can blame that one on the Dublin regal theater for taking ours over then shutting it down , had quite a little monopoly there for awhile until the Livermore theater opened! I'm sticking with the vine, nice place, remodeled, very clean


Posted by Bud, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 16, 2011 at 7:06 am

Another good amenity of the Vine is that you can have dinner while watching the movie. It sure beats that popcorn with the fake butter flavor!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Dec 29, 2011 at 8:56 pm

lets try to keep it clean...


Posted by Laura, a resident of Del Prado
on Dec 29, 2011 at 11:13 pm

Not sure anyone will care, but ironically it is Newark, not Fremont that has the BJ's restaurant. Ironic as Newark, the smaller city, has frequently attracted better restaurants and retail than Fremont....


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