Town Square

Post a New Topic

More Wisdom from Michele Bachmann

Original post made by Cindy Cross, Parkside, on Sep 19, 2011

More Wisdom from Michele Bachmann by Cindy Cross
Today Michele Bachmann spoke at a small business in her home town of Waterloo, Iowa. The business, OMJC Signal, a safety equipment manufacturer, opened its doors for Bachmann to answer questions in an informal round-table setting.
During this appearance, Bachmann shared her sentiments about health care and reminisced about the good-ole-days when many Americans purchased their own health insurance, and didn't depend on their employer for insurance.
"When I grew up here in Iowa, we owned our own health insurance. We didn't necessarily have it from our employer," she said. "I think you should be able to own your plan, so your employer doesn't own it - you get to own it, and you buy it with your own tax-free money. You should be able to set aside whatever amount of your income you need to purchase the kind of health care you need for yourself, for your family."
Really? This scenario happened when we were cooking on avocado green range tops, and gas was less than a $1.00. This was so long ago, the very idea Bachmann talks about causes the average American to laugh out loud.
If a person lost their job (and health insurance), they would have the option to get COBRA—which stands for the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985, which is a law passed by the U.S. Congress on a reconciliation basis and signed by President Reagan that mandates an insurance program giving some employees the ability to continue health insurance coverage after leaving employment. It is an insurance option that costs less that private insurance.
Under COBRA, for a family of five (two adults and three children), the average cost is $1,005 per month. Private insurance with Kaiser or Blue Shield is substantially more.
Once again, Bachmann is speaking in platitudes. More rhetoric to those who don't know, don't care, or can't relate to what she's talking about. With insurance covered by employers, the employee is generally paying only 20% of the total cost plus, in many instances, a co-payment at the time of a doctor's appointment.
With her foot in mouth exercise last week with the commentary about a woman who approached her stating that her daughter suffered from mental retardation after the HPV vaccine, Bachmann attempted to back pedal by telling The Associated Press today, "All I was doing is relaying what a woman had said. I relayed what she said. I wasn't attesting to her accuracy. I wasn't attesting to anything."
Her commentary today about insurance is another example of how out of touch Bachmann is, and how she tailors her speeches to attract applause from a small select group who showers her with praise.
Bachmann reminds me of another female candidate out there on stand-by.

Comments (23)

 +   Like this comment
Posted by Mike
a resident of Del Prado
on Sep 20, 2011 at 9:07 am

She is just another illustration as to why women should not try to hold public office. Just always a disaster, Feinstein, Boxer, Palin, Clinton, Whitman, Hostermann, Kallio, etc. Should just forget about it.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Shiela
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 20, 2011 at 10:20 am

Please share with us, Mike, why you think Feinstein, Boxer and Clinton are "disasters." Is it because they have done such an outstanding job in the offices they have held? Is that why in the case of F and B, they continue to get re-elected?

Oh, I get it. You're just a pig who feels threatened by empowered women. Must suck to be you.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 20, 2011 at 1:15 pm

Can we please stop talking about Bachmann? Maybe she will go away.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by jimf01
a resident of another community
on Sep 20, 2011 at 2:19 pm

jimf01 is a registered user.

One thing that Pat and I agree on. But Cindy Cross gets herself in trouble, even when she is working from liberal talking points. Her political analysis, even of a piece of tissue paper like Bachmann, is full of fail it isn't funny.

Cindy, try to pay attention to what is actually going on if you are going to try to be a pundit. After all, it is your boss who emailed me and told me she is looking for bloggers who have strong opinions and can articulate (and defend) those opinions. At the time, I thought it meant she wanted to add more bloggers, but now I understand. She is looking for your replacement.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Margaret
a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Sep 20, 2011 at 2:56 pm

Cindy,

I thought this piece was a very solid follow-up to your piece of last week where you discussed the rabid death-craving disposition of the Republican audience at the debate. Thanks so much, and do keep up the good work!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Mary
a resident of Del Prado
on Sep 21, 2011 at 8:00 am

I don't know about any of you who've had to use COBRA, but we used its coverage from 2001-2003 to the tune of $2100/month for 2 adults and 1 child. Where in the world does Cindy get $1005/month for a family of 5?


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Thomas
a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Sep 21, 2011 at 9:12 am

I agree with Margaret. The image of Ron Paul standing in front of a rabid "Let 'im die!" audience was priceless. Ron Paul, Michele Bachmann, and the rest of the GOP faithful had a lot to be proud of on the night.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Romney rooter !
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 21, 2011 at 3:48 pm

Yes, I have been very PROUD of future President ROMNEY in all the debates ! !
We wouldn't have had to endure all we have, if Romney had been the Repub nominee last time. I sure hope the radicals don't screw up this primary, like they did last time. If they screw it up the primaries this time, they'll be a footnote in the history books.
The incumbent would stay, like they usually do.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Barb
a resident of Avila
on Sep 21, 2011 at 4:02 pm

Either way, whether it's Perry or the shape-shifting unctuous one, Obama has little to worry about.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Independent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 21, 2011 at 6:00 pm

I completely agree with Romney Rooter. If the Repubicans are smart, they will nominate someone who attracts the independent in the middle.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Tanisha
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 21, 2011 at 6:41 pm

Obama's got the middle sewn up. No yucky Mormon boy scout leaders as our president!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Independent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 21, 2011 at 6:58 pm

Tanisha - maybe you should look at the latest polls. Obama is losing the middle very fast and therefore it is increasingly likely that he will be a one-term President. I think this is why he is starting to panic and double-down on his far-left base.

Don't know if you are joking or not, but it is unfortunate to hear the bigotry in your statement.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Tanisha
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 21, 2011 at 7:10 pm

Yes, if one looks at polls other than the discredited Rasmussen, Obama is in pretty good shape vs. any Repub contender. Perry is slipping fast as the public gets to know him; Bachmann has already splashed down at the bottom of the trash heap. Romney isn't going anywhere because even the daffy right knows better than to trust him with anything beyond postal delivery inspector. Face it, the right has no plan other than to protect holdings of the rich while slashing away at middle-class salaries. Obama will win with ease, and expect his coattails to be very long indeed.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Mike
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Sep 21, 2011 at 8:29 pm

While I'm confident that the world will continue spinning ether way, the way it's looking, all President Obama has to do is sit back and smile. If the Republican contenders wish to make headway, they'd be well-advised to consider this.

Mike


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Blossom
a resident of Stoneridge Orchards
on Sep 21, 2011 at 9:49 pm

Mike makes an excellent point. Republican candidates should sit back and smile too. C'mon you guys, consider this.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by steve
a resident of Parkside
on Sep 22, 2011 at 9:21 am

Unless you want 4 more years circling the toilet, as we've seen since 2008, then you need to vote for ABO (anyone but obama).
With the economy being the biggest crisis facing us, it's painfully clear that obama and his appointed minions have no clue what to do, other than make the situation worse. What did you expect hiring a community agitator to be the leader of the free world?


 +   Like this comment
Posted by resident vacationing in Italy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 22, 2011 at 12:21 pm

I agree with steve, Obama has no clue. However, neither do any Republican or Tea Party extremists. For that matter, neither does any of us. We are living in the past. We think the politicos actually control our economy. We think the future will be like the past. But the world has changed... forever.

I work for a good old, large American industrial company. We manufacture "things". We are job creators (the latest Republican buzz word - aka propaganda). Unfortunately, very few of these jobs are in the U. S.. Give us lower taxes and we can invest more agressively in low labor cost regions of the world.

It does not stop there. Knowledge workers. My development team consists of two H1-B onshore members and about 3 or 4 offshore members. We can add or subtract highly skilled engineers at will. What are normally high paying skilled jobs are also going offshore.

There seems to be no real solution that is even being talked about, and consequently the standard of living of average Americans appears to have no where to go but down.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Simon
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 22, 2011 at 1:46 pm

Hey Vacationer, I think Adam Smith predicted something quite similar to what you are describing. Capital within a capitalist system overwhelms the very concept of nationhood. Global economies make nations obsolete. Once Capital has its own way, however, and sets the bar ever lower (wages, salaries) with its ghoulish practices, then the fun really starts. Enter Marx, and we're on our way! Some of the smattering of leftist rhetoric on these pages is only a smattering of what's to come.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Mike
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Sep 22, 2011 at 8:06 pm

Resident Vacationing in Italy makes an excellent point.

Mike


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Romney rooter !
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 22, 2011 at 10:05 pm

Tanisha, Mike, et al, MSNBC said poll today, Thur 9/25, shows Romney leads Obama by 7 points, 47 - 40 !! Perry is behind Obama by 2.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Mike
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Sep 22, 2011 at 10:38 pm

Romney Rooter,

Outstanding progress in an ongoing process.

I think Resident on Vacation in Italy's post goes to a deeper level than poll standing, though, by pointing out that no party is capable of altering the larger trends affecting economics and employment, which is certainly a point worth examining, especially since we've got some time before the election.

Mike


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 23, 2011 at 6:43 pm

the only polls matter will come a few weeks before the election...


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Independent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 23, 2011 at 8:42 pm

Republicans, I hope you are listening. I hope you get practical and put forward a candidate that independents like me can embrace. Put somebody through who is electable by the broader population.

This latest poll from MSNBC is telling:

In hypothetical 2012 general election matchups, Romney has a 47 to 40 percent margin over the president, with Obama holding a 44 to 42 percent margin over Perry, which is well within the poll's sampling error.

The poll indicates that the president leads Perry by six points among independent voters, with Romney topping Obama by nine points among independents.

Web Link


Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.

Email:


Post a comment

Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online. Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion. All postings are subject to our TERMS OF USE, and may be deleted if deemed inappropriate by our staff.

We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.

Name: *

Select your neighborhood or school community: *

Comment: *

Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.

*Required Fields

Vote YES on Measures 45, 46, & 47, NO on 48
By Roz Rogoff | 30 comments | 1,943 views

Endorsement thoughts
By Tim Hunt | 2 comments | 1,294 views

Prop 47: not perfect, just preferable.
By Tom Cushing | 2 comments | 582 views