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A new climate action plan from our President, a preview

Original post made by WH advisor on Jun 23, 2013

For the American people & Pleasantonians, please be aware the President will announce a series of executive actions, in the absence of Congressional action on climate change. Global warming, cooling whatever kind of change. We don't want it. It's a crisis. Hope and change: good, climate change: bad

The President has worked on this for 5 1/2 years, so you know it's gonna be good. But in fact, the idea is not new.

Circumventing the Congress, Barack Obama's administration want you to know that "controls on greenhouse gas emissions from power plants would be a major focus" of this new plan. Remember, he already told us about this plan?

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"Coal powered plants, natural gas, you name it, they will have to retrofit operations, that will cost money, they will pass that on to consumers"

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Comments (9)

Posted by liberalism is a disease, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 23, 2013 at 8:47 pm

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

Ironically, plug in vehicle owners will get to feel even more pain ' at the plug'. LOL. Proving once again, there's no free (or permanently subsidized) lunch.
Time to pay up, you self righteous elitists.

By the way, this line was hilarious: "The President has worked on this for 5 1/2 years, so you know it's gonna be good." Thinly veiled sarcasm, that, eh?


Posted by Arnold, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 23, 2013 at 9:42 pm

The president seems to be worried about future generations when it comes to global warming and its consequences. But there are far greater evils to worry about than pollution, rising oceans, droughts, and the like. I refer specifically to tax hikes, which are of far greater consequence. With money you save on taxes, you can buy gas masks, inner tubes, and 24 packs of plastic water bottles. But without money, after the government takes everything beyond the 13% rate I've been paying all these onerous years, we'll be unable to prepare adequately for the tsunami that will coming washing over us. First they came and taxed our cigarettes; next our tanning salons; now they're taking our guns from us; and it's only a matter of time before they take all our money. What then? Will Obama and his people demand our daughters? It's coming, people. Noah only had a flood to deal with. Ever see a global tsunami?


Posted by john, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 23, 2013 at 10:30 pm

Liberalism,

Have you taken a drive in a Tesla? In my book, it doesn't get much better than than that. Nothing self-righteous about owning one for me. It is just a really nice car.

As to the president's plan, I'm guessing he's making some concessions to environmentalists as part of a package that includes approving the new pipeline from Alaska. Now if only we get more nuclear power plants built...


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 24, 2013 at 11:46 am

testa is gonna have to get past this committee: Web Link


Posted by liberalism is a disease, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 24, 2013 at 2:52 pm

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

John, I'm sure you're right about Teslas, but I suspect the price puts that car out of reach for most Californians, even those willing to overpay for a Prius or volt. Hence the elitist reference I made. For some reason, people with the means to overpay to reduce some ill conceived sense of guilt for living on this planet, want everyone else to sacrifice at a disproportionate level to make them fell better about themselves. Makes no sense to those with common sense.


Posted by Some Dude, a resident of Danbury Park
on Jun 24, 2013 at 3:06 pm

liberalism is a disease, I really appreciate the way you call others self-righteous elitists. You, sir, are anything but that. Keep up the righteous work!


Posted by Curious, a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 24, 2013 at 3:46 pm

@LIAD - you might want to re-think your comment about overpriced EV's. Yes, the Tesla is priced a bit high, but what new technology is not priced high. It is pretty simple marketing strategy to price a new technology high and let the early adopter crowd help pay the development costs. As volume increases, costs come down and Tesla will drop the price if demand starts to wane.

The Volt is competitively priced with aggressive leasing programs. Last summer Chevy was offering the Volt at $3000 down and $250/month for 3 years with Onstar and XM Radio included. If that was not good enough and accessible to more than just your elitist crowd, you also received a $9000 tax credit from the Feds and State. You can do the math to see what a screaming deal it is.

The Volt goes 45 miles on a charge that costs about $1.00 at residential rates. It gets 45 MPG if running with the onboard gas generator so visits to the gas station are rare.

You don't have to be an elitist or some eco-warrior tree hugger to want to save money. The Volt uses electricity produced here in the USA using some renewable sources and does not have to rely on foreign based sources of oil. Sounds like a win-win to me.


Posted by liberalism is a disease, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 24, 2013 at 5:02 pm

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

Thanks for confirming what I wrote about over priced EVs. We're it not for the government motors kickbacks that taxpayers have to carry, the Volt would be a bigger failure in sales volume than it already is. When it costs almost $90,000 to build a wind up car that sells for $48000, there's something serioulsy wrong. After all, if it were that great a car, why does it need the govt to prop it up?
The volt is charged with the same dirty electricity the rest of us a paying through the nose for....powered by coal and oil, along with some natural gas. The pollution from this energy production just relocates the smog from our freeways to the neighborhood next to the power plant. It may make some people feel better to move the pollution where they can't see it, but it represents a shell game that only males the naive happy. Out of sight, out of mind.
Footnote: I may be biased since I purchased lots of chevron stock a few years ago, but unless EVs can stand on their own in the free market (without taxpayer subsidies) it's just a pacifier to the weak minded Eco narcissists.


Posted by Angry, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 26, 2013 at 11:11 am

I'm angry that we'll all be paying more for our electricity...we need 'more' as our population swells, yet we 'reduce' our supply. Idiots are controlling our lives. Sickening! John is right, let's build more nuclear power plants. Unfortunately they take a long time. The scary zealots stalled, when we should have been using these recent past years 'building' and 'preparing' for electric car supply/ But the scary zealots only blocked progress, while idiots just followed along. Now here we are without sufficient power, to be held hostage by power companies like pg&e. I'm angry that I have to 'pay the price' and suffer right along with fools, because of green extremists.
Nuclear is the ONLY power source that can provide Unlimited, clean, carbon-free power.


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