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EBMUD implements new watering restrictions

Original post made on Aug 13, 2014

The San Ramon Valley's primary water provider told its customers Tuesday afternoon to comply with new statewide mandatory watering restrictions, but said it would not issue tickets or fines to users who ignore the recently adopted rules.

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Posted by Daveg
a resident of Birdland
on Aug 13, 2014 at 8:20 am

Daveg is a registered user.

Any wisdom on this? "The San Ramon Valley's primary water provider told its customers Tuesday afternoon to comply with new statewide mandatory watering restrictions, but said it would not issue tickets or fines to users who ignore the recently adopted rules". What?! Why bother? What exactly is the point? Does the District just like to see their name in print?


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Posted by Connie Wilkerson
a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Aug 13, 2014 at 10:15 am

Daveg, Difficult as it may seem to you, researchers have found that many in our midst have a conscience, an inner voice if you will, that we engage on various levels of internal dialogue. (You may stop laughing now.)

It goes something like this. Hmmmmm, people with some expertise are saying that we need to reduce our water consumption. Well, come to think of it, there are probably ways I can reduce my own consumption. Maybe I'll do that, not because of fear of a penalty but just because it's the right thing to do.

There once was a man named Thomas Hobbes who thought conscience was overrated. Instead, he thought heavy-handed, iron-fisted rulership was in order -- a Leviathan, or, if you will, an authoritarian figure who tells everyone what to do and reminds them of how they'll be punished if they don't behave. You, Daveg, seem to fall into the Hobbesian way of thinking, along with all the others who believe fascism is the way to go.


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Posted by Citizen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 13, 2014 at 10:55 am

Truly an Obama moment!! LMAO!


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Posted by U. Tilly Tareyan
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 13, 2014 at 10:58 am

Well, THAT was a literate and refreshing perspective, Connie. Thanks!

I might add that if there are enough Davegs around who ignore the fact that we're all in this together, EBMUD and others will Have to start fining Dave and his fellow Randians -- thus raising the cost of water for All of us. Predictably, he will then complain bitterly about government waste and inefficiency.

He's got it ALL figured-out.


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Posted by mike
a resident of Downtown
on Aug 13, 2014 at 11:40 am

EBMUD just now figured out that It's customers need to comply with the State mandate?
We have cut our water usage by 45% in our home even though we are only required to do so by 25%.
EBMUD has required a 10% cutback and It's customers have come through with a" whopping "10.7% cut?
A perfect example of the water suppliers and the State not working together for sensible water conservation for everyone.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of San Ramon
on Aug 13, 2014 at 1:54 pm

Mike, I am not sure it is a good thing to beat that 25% reduction target by a lot. If this drought continues next year then this years actual might be your starting point to reduce from.

Related to the San Ramon situation. I believe they are trying to work with us rather than punish us into good behavior. At the end of the day I believe that San Ramon will be most effective in what they accomplish.


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Posted by liberalism is a disease
a resident of Birdland
on Aug 13, 2014 at 7:01 pm

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

Citizen, funny post. What we need here is a red line that no one would dare cross...or, I'll, I 'll stamp my feet and complain to the Wookie!


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Posted by Connie Wilkerson
a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Aug 13, 2014 at 7:20 pm

Yes, because we need more authoritarianism in this world. Then some of us won't have to struggle with matters of conscience. Admit it, it's just easier having an authoritarian threaten us with punishment than to actually think matters through and act upon our inner-directed sense of goodness and rationality. Of course, too, there's Fox News, which allows us to reduce every question in the universe to Obama or not. As in: He's making a point I cannot comprehend, so he must be an Obama elitist. Makes everything all that much simpler. As in simple minded.


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Posted by Deport Cholo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 14, 2014 at 8:47 am

The state mandate is a joke. Talk to people in Metro LA and San Diego. They aren't cutting back at all, even though their city governments and water agencies say they are. Do you see any brown lawns down there? Moonbeam Brown is all hot air and BS. They even joke about how NorCal feels all the (water) pain, and SoCal feels all the gain. They have the votes, we get the shaft. It will eventually get to where NorCal landscaping is desert, but SoCal will still have their lush green lawns using water they "appropriated" from NorCal and Colorado.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 14, 2014 at 9:03 am

Not so fast re: the LMAO crack! Have you forgotten "MAO" was once a Chinese COMMUNIST DICTATOR? ...duh

i rest my case...


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Posted by liberalism is a disease
a resident of Birdland
on Aug 14, 2014 at 10:12 am

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

Connie, thanks so much for making us all painfully aware of the burden you must shoulder as the voice of self-righteousness in our city. And your petty, condescending attack on Fox News truly points out your additional burden of a narrow focus possessed by bleeding hearts that think they know better than the rest of the plebes in town. It must be really hard to be you. Maybe your mental condition is a result of dehydration.....try drinking some water and try not to feel guilty doing so.


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Posted by Steve
a resident of Stoneridge
on Aug 14, 2014 at 5:32 pm

Connie -

I almost spit my coffee all over my copy of "Atlas Shrugged". Authoritarianism cannot arise from Objectivism nor Libertarianism. It arises from centralized control of our lives by the government.

When the right complains about "big government," it is this "centralized control" that they are complaining about. When the left boasts about how well the government can run things (i.e. healthcare), it's authoritarianism they're boasting about. To have Authoritarianism, you need to give up some control over yourself to an authority.

By the way, I just found a definition for Dictator. Who does this sound like:

"an absolute ruler- they generally have an authoritarian stance on leadership, and will bypass all offices and systems to push through the legislation they wish to."

Can anyone remember the Affordable Care Act? How about the Deferred Action For Childhood Arrivals (DACA) Initiative? Hint: he's got a pen and a phone and he'll do whatever is necessary to get the job done.


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Posted by Connie Wilkerson
a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Aug 14, 2014 at 6:50 pm

Steve, I'd figure even an old coot like yourself would know better than to appeal to a second-rate novelist for his political categories.

My above response was to the right-winger(s) -- probably yourself with another moniker(?) -- who expressed a desire for government to act more punitively re. water usage. (You seem not to have grasped much of what people have written, as your insertion here makes no sense at all.)

As for arguing with you about objectivism and libertarianism, on other threads I have schooled you too many times on these matters already, each time rather than engage me you opt to simply scurry away.

As it stands, I reckon engaging an Ayn Rand ideologue who possesses no argumentative skills as something akin to debating a plate of scrambled eggs. I've tried in the past, but there is no sense continuing to do so as it will only produce the same result.

As you return to a read of Ayn Rand, try to remember that she was writing fiction. FICTION. Appealing to objectivism only puts icing on the turd. Deferring to a second-rate novelist as an authority on political concepts is something I would think only an authoritarian like yourself might do.


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Posted by Fredo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 15, 2014 at 8:27 am

Connie,
Me thinks you are a left-wing loon. Quack! Now can we get back to the issue of the post?


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Posted by Connie Wilkerson
a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Aug 15, 2014 at 9:11 am

Loons don't quack. And it's 'methinks', not 'me thinks'. I doubt you know what the 'issue of the post' is. And you wonder why I don't engage you and the rest of your silly monikers?


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Posted by Tom Hagen
a resident of another community
on Aug 15, 2014 at 10:24 am

Hey, Fredo can handle things. He's smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... he's smart and he wants respect!

Perhaps the PW could invite him to go fishing?


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Posted by Steve
a resident of Stoneridge
on Aug 15, 2014 at 11:08 am

I await your schooling Connie. Please teach me how philosophies that distrust and actively oppose government intrusiveness could possibly lead to authoritarianism.

Perhaps I misread what you were espousing. I assumed you were connecting the right with authoritarianism (since you included Fox News in your rant about more government intrusion). I'm sure that you realize that it would be a left-leaning media source (there are many to select from) that would encourage the use of government power to enforce water regulations.


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Aug 15, 2014 at 1:27 pm

Changing gears from John Galt... My neighbor used the same line on me the other day, (from Paul in San Ramon) "If this drought continues next year then this years actual might be your starting point to reduce from". At what point will people understand if there is another year of drought that something (a percentage reduction) of nothing (no water) is still nothing...


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Posted by Truth
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 16, 2014 at 12:35 pm

Hilarious...these are the new mandatory rules....but if you don't follow them there is no problem. This brought to you buy the same libatards that give losers welfare without drug testing.....I hate this state government!


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Posted by Connie Wilkerson
a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Aug 16, 2014 at 12:48 pm

May I respectfully request cattle prods and, only in extreme cases, some water boarding?

Oh, and NO welfare for loser druggies. They can get money to support their habit some other way. I'd rather see them rob a pharmacy than have to support their habit with my spouse's hard-earned tax dollar.

@Steve. Yes, you do tend to misread quite a bit. I'm sorry, I cannot help you.


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Posted by daniel ormonde
a resident of Jensen Tract
on Aug 16, 2014 at 3:35 pm

there is a legitimate reason for water usage reduction. just go to lake comanche and you will see the result of
the the drought. its now a mudhole. friends have been going there for twenty years and have never witnessed
the current condition. thats just one of many indicators. its not an OBAMA thing. he did not create the seven
billion human beings on this planet who are burning through resources faster than we could ever hope to replace.
pleasanton is not an island unto itself. the sense of entitlement is off the hook. where does common sense come into play?


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Posted by Steve
a resident of Stoneridge
on Aug 19, 2014 at 10:45 am

If our reservoirs are so dry, why is Pyramid reservoir so full? Are we continuing to pump the same flow to the south, even when our reservoirs are running dry?


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 19, 2014 at 11:56 am

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