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on Mar 28, 2014
So tell me Jeb, when's the City of Pleasanton going to turn off the spigot to Callippe Preserve GOLF COURSE?
"Using drinking water for outdoor watering may not be possible this summer."
I've visited the Callippe Preserve golf course website, and NOWHERE does it state that they use recycled water. Just thought I'd point that out to ya.
So, why don't you be a reporter, pick up the phone, and ask 'em?
If you think we, the residents of Pleasanton, are gonna conserve water while the City's waters a GOLF COURSE all summer long, this resident, for one, says you can flush that idea down the Arroyo of your choice.
To Not a golfer: I am a golfer but nevertheless I absolutely agree with you
Good for Jeb to ask but wondering why the City is silent - I sense some scheming going on
I am with you Not a Golfer. Shut off the water to that stupid golf course. Or watch my yards stay green. I can well afford the high cost of the water so any conservation efforts that I make are done because it's the right thing to do. But it's NOT the right thing to do when this city pisses drinking water all over a golf course!
Take the challenge Jeb. Find out why the city allows this waste of our drinking water. Oh yeah, I forgot that this is the Pleasanton Very Weakly and getting to the facts of a local story might offend someone who is in city management. Not gonna happen.
stop wasting on the golf course for me as well !!!
How can we report neighbors who have watered their lawns EVERYDAY for the past month?
I think our neighbor is trying to increase his water use now so when rationing does occur, and they ask for a 20% cutback later this summer, he can water his lawn on a normal schedule so he won't have to pay a fine.
Just report it...duh...why make it Jeb's problem? Having trouble containing your anger and acting out? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Unfortunately since we are still in voluntary cutbacks, I don't think there is anything anyone can do to selfish people who water every day. I also think some people are clueless as some people water all during very wet winter months.
We have to cut back 20% and the city approves how many new apts to be built.
We have to use less so there is enough water for the new developments!! I don't think so!! I'll still water my lawn and wash my car!
Jade, you're spot on. If they were truly serious about controlling our water supply, NO new building permits with water hookups would be issued until after we've built and filled new reservoirs.
When the mandatory rationing starts, as in the past, they will base your allotment on prior usage stats, which forces people to increase to raise their baseline ahead of the cutback. What you failed to mention, is regardless as to whether you save or how much you save, you will be rewarded with the higher rates for your actions. This is the inevitable result of a combination of poor govt planning and opportunism by the water monopolies. Drink up.
There is a drought. During a drought everyone needs to do what s/he can to conserve water. Yes, it will cost more; yes, there will be those who are clueless; but to deliberately increase water usage to make it easier to cut 20% is unconscionable.
While checking on the water at the golf course, why not check on why the city waters lawn areas during the afternoon when water conservationists advise us to water our lawns early in the morning?
When it costs me nearly 200 bucks to bring myself and a couple of guests onto the course for a round a golf, I expect the fairways and greens to be in excellent shape. Golf is a distinguished game for distinguished people, and I don't think a bunch of small-time homeowners with small-time parcels of land should expect to regulate my golf course's water usage. What? Suddenly all these small-time conservatives want to regulate my golfing activities? Who do they think they are, Barack Obama?
Meadow Dweller, these people have experienced the cutbacks in the past and do not want to get burned again. I do not blame them. During the 70's, our family had to cut back 20% or we had heavy fines. They did not look at your usage, only that you cut back. Our family at the time had no lawns and very little outside watering (maybe none). Trying to cut back 20% for us was very, very difficult because we used very little water. Instead of requiring cutbacks of 20%, they should have a more fair system of allocation based on family and/or property size. There is no reason why a family of 4 at one location should be allocated 50% less water than a neighbor with the same family and property size. Until the water agencies are fair about this, I do not blame those who have conserved water to increase usage so they do not get screwed.
Also, stopping water into the arroyos is a good thing. The arroyos were artificially wet all year from the quarries. When the quarries finished their operations, the arroyos started to dry up. Then the mayor and some council members ordered water to be dumped into the arroyo to preserve the unnatural year round water flow. While it is pretty with water in it, it is unnatural and most of the water that is put into it evaporates.
I concur with Jade and "liberalism is a disease". There is plenty of water to add 3000 new units to the city. Adding about 10% to our current population, this clearly implies that we currently have 10% surplus water. Get out there and wash down your driveway! I did mine a couple of weeks ago. Remember that a crisis is the only way for government to do planning. When children are going thristy and seniors are suffering life threatening kidney failure, then it will be time to investigate new reservoirs, population location adjustments, etc. so that the regional water supplies and the demands on them are in balance. We elected the people that gave us this water shortage, so we need to think carefully next time we mark a spot on our ballots next to another extremist, left-wing candidate. Same comment applies to developer-sponsored candidates.
Amazing...we need the government to impose rationing before we speak to our own neighbor about their water usage? Why don't you grow a set and have a conversation you sheep?!!
Wonder how many people complaining about the lack of water put out barrels to collect water during the current rains. Wonder if automatic watering on city streets is still being done. Wonder why new trees were planted on Stanley Blvd and other areas of Pleasanton recently. It's great to complain about everything, but before you do, make sure you actually know what is going on and you do your part to alleviate the problem other than complain and blame someone or some other entity.
You are spot on about getting burned big time
by doing the right thing and conserving water
only to have the water department then base
your usage on your conservation effort
amount and it reduce it 20%....meanwhile
your ever wasteful neighbor who did nothing
to conserve is just fine since their usage
was always 40% over what they need. Hopefully
the water department has different methods
to apply in this situation..maybe a comparison
to all lots/households of a similar size first (assuming
of course not everyone is wasteful :)
Building apartment buildings now does not send the message of a true water emergency. Who would add thousands of new water customers when who knows if we will get any rain next year or the year after. Very poor leadership in my opinion.
Apartments approved were entitled but not issued building permits. One of the conditions for getting a building permit is to have Zone 7 certify adequate water supply for the application. Further, conditions included using drought tolerate landscaping, low water usage appliances, and plumbing for use of recycled water for irrigation.
What is the definition of 'adequate water supply'? My guess is they could ration us to 50% and still say there is adequate water supply. Or possibly they could say they could add the apartments and water still drips out of the tap so there is adequate water supply.
The new water customers, if in fact there are any, would have used water elsewhere before moving to Pleasanton. So there is less water usage elsewhere.
As a golfer who spent many enjoyable days on rock hard high wind courses in South Texas, I suggest that local golfers could learn to enjoy shooting rounds on a waterless Callippe course. Long high arcing drives that plop down on soft fairways would have to be replaced with low accurately placed irons bouncing in the direction of the green. High lobs off soft grass would have to be replaced by long low running chips. Putting on dry greens will present a new challenge of a soft touch and a more accurate reading of the topography. Some great golfers of old, like Lee Trevino, developed his creative and now "non-standard" game on some of the driest and hardest and windiest courses in the U.S. Our local golfers could actually learn enough to be able to enjoy some tough European courses that are very unlike our soft cushioned carpets. Turn off the water on the golf courses.
Every few years or so, the same thing. Let's build some dams in this state!
Zone 7 and the City of Pleasanton have a responsibility to the people that live within their boarders currently. To say people are using water somewhere else so it has no impact is fairly ignorant and sounds like something someone on the city council would say.
The apartments need to be stopped. As said in a former comment they do not have the building permits and Zone 7 should not approve. When you have to let your landscape deteriorate, there is a lot of cost to renew them.
I know the city council and others want more tax money and our state government is the one that said we had to have all of this new building. Maybe the state legislature can give us a LARGE TAX CREDIT for what we have to give up.
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Correction: I agree that Protest would be much happier if she/he could sit by the window and enjoy the view. Popcorn is always waaaaaay fun to munch on when you have it!
They tell me that I was a Soldier For Freedom in Vietnam ... I'll stop there. I get to drive around Ruby Hills as well as "a bunch of small-time homeowners with small-time parcels of land " AND, I could never afford a small time home or parcel in Pleasanton. I guess that would make me a loser ... and over the years I have picked up huge amounts of litter off the roadways ( Stanley Blvd, I 680, Sunol - Pleasanton Rd etc ) ... I guess such free work makes me a fool. But, I have seen the little rich people in the Smallville and undistinguished parts of Pleasanton, seem to be watering they smaller parcels lawns far less than the distinguished people, or thay distinguished game lawn. I am sooooo glad that I cant afford 200 bucks to play Golf, and I am so glad that I don't live in Ruby Hills or places like that.
Great comments here… but where are our leaders? What solutions do they propose…. desalinization is an expensive option.. but just silence. open up city council.. be transparent…. where are we using recycled water ?
Sir, if you are drinking the recycled water in Livermore, that may explain a lot. There's a good reason it's referred to as non-potable water.
Now you live inDublin? What the hell does your post have to do with the topic? You drinking tonight?
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