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Signature gatherers want to impeach President Obama

Original post made on Jun 3, 2010

Two members of the Larouche Party were near the Pleasanton Post Office on Black Avenue today asking voters to sign a petition to impeach President Barrack Obama. Police said they'd received a handful of complaints.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, June 3, 2010, 4:28 PM

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Posted by unclehomerr..
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 3, 2010 at 5:40 pm


Bummer! I was there at 4:50 and they were packing up to go. If I'd known what they were doing, I'd have yelled.. "Stop! Wait!! Lemme sign too!"

unclehomerr..


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Posted by Adolf
a resident of another community
on Jun 3, 2010 at 5:46 pm

I do hope the police were taking down the names of those people who attempted to complain. Isn't it time Pleasanton deputized a group of citizens to monitor the community looking for this type of unacceptable behavior? This kind of anti-Obama speech must not be tolerated.

Obama Uber Alles!


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Posted by Jeff
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 3, 2010 at 5:55 pm

While I personally would rather see Obama behind bars, I wonder how these Larouche members think a Democrat majority congress would ever vote to impeach their messiah. Unfortunately, all three branches of government are aligned against the American people, as designed by the Socialist Democrat party. The chance that Obama would receive impeachment from his fellow Dems is slim to none.


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Posted by m
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 3, 2010 at 5:59 pm

yeah ... that's gonna solve the problem ... This is the same solution to the problem that with took with Nixon, Clinton, Bush and now Obama ... yeah ... instead of looking at the deeper problem let's blame it on a person ... (doesn't matter the party ... remember the ONLY President to get knocked out of office was a very very very conservative Republican) ... this whole line of thinking is STUPID!!!! But, it's no less stupid than our response to all our problems ... it's the environmentalist's fault for the BP oil spill (What?????) ... hey keep it up America ... we're well on the way to being a 3rd world country with this type of social mentality (Oh ... that's right ... we're all college educated ... and WE know what's right ... WRONG!!!)


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 3, 2010 at 6:06 pm

Web Link A recent recruit!

tee hee hee, tee hee hee...


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Posted by m
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 3, 2010 at 6:16 pm

Here's a quote from one of Ann Coulter's bloggers:

"If I had a choice to have a date with Ann Coulter or plug the oil, I'd be buying Ann a taco bell grande with some extra large martguerita's to make our date the best in the land. Who cares about the oil? It's Obama-dink's problem. Me, I want to hang out with the sexiest gal in the world. Harold, Texas"

Okay ... am I missing something here or am I on another planet. Incidentally I could have used Cholo's response and it would have fit just as well to illustrate my point.

????? I am at a loss ???? yeah go ahead and tell me all the ways to save the country ????? They use to call this logic "toothless"!!!!


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Posted by radical
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 3, 2010 at 6:56 pm

TWO WORDS: PRESIDENT BIDEN

THINK PEOPLE, THINK


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 3, 2010 at 7:01 pm

I talked to these clowns. They were complaining that Obama was blocking congress from putting the Glass Steagall act back in force. I don't get it. The Republicans don't want to do that either. They couldn't give me any coherent reason why putting Joe Biden or Sarah Palin for that matter in the President's office would accomplish that.

Strange.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Danbury Park
on Jun 3, 2010 at 7:22 pm

I would have signed it. The man should be put in prison. He is nothing but an incompentent economic terrorist. What a great President.............not!!! Not even 2 years in and he is in the tank.


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Posted by Wow!
a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Jun 3, 2010 at 7:42 pm

I'm betting most of the people who are anti-Obama were pro-Bush. To me that says it all.


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Posted by Hmmmm
a resident of Civic Square
on Jun 3, 2010 at 7:43 pm

Idiots! Seriously, that's how you spend your time? I would tell you to be part of the solution, but obviously you don't have enough of a brain to come up with something.


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Posted by One Word
a resident of Hacienda Gardens
on Jun 3, 2010 at 7:44 pm

One word-RACIST!


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Posted by Horrible!
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jun 3, 2010 at 7:53 pm

The fact that President Obama's picture has a Hitler looking mustache on it is absolutely disgusting. Hitler killed millions of people and Mr. Obama has not.

I would add to the comment of racist-it is also anti-semitic. I would hope people in this community would be outraged that two women depicted the U.S. president as a horrific murderer.

I wish I had been there so I could have taken the sign and ripped it to shreds. You ladies disgust me.


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Posted by Janna
a resident of Dublin
on Jun 3, 2010 at 7:56 pm

Janna is a registered user.

Obama hasn't gotten a BJ from an intern, what is the rational behind this? Oh, he increased taxes on the wealthy, the biggest no-no there is, apparently. Some people (Larouche party) need to find a hobby since all they seem to have to do is stand outside the post office with images of Obama with a Hitler mustache asking a president 500 days in to be impeached. How could anyone take these nimrods seriously?


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Posted by Clueless
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jun 3, 2010 at 8:35 pm

I love how so many morons here think Obama should be imprisoned. What did he do? Did he break some laws? or are you suggesting that because of the color of his skin? I think the answer is quite obvious.

For the moron who said "Unfortunately, all three branches of government are aligned against the American people", wake up and smell your stinking socks. It's We the People of America, aka American people, who voted Obama and the current congress into office. If you don't like it, LEAVE OUR COUNTRY! Get lost...adios.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 3, 2010 at 8:44 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

The LaRouche Party is ultra-left.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 3, 2010 at 8:44 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

See? Obama isn't socialist because they hate him too!


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Posted by paul
a resident of Danbury Park
on Jun 3, 2010 at 8:51 pm

Janna,

The Larouche folks are ultraleft and not right wing. I voted for him and think he is doing a lousy job to say the least. He has shown himself to be a good speech giver and nothing more. Zero leadership.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 3, 2010 at 9:08 pm

Just consider yourselves lucky that this didn't move into the White House: Web Link

Giving a good speech is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the guy in the video...tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

ps Is he America's all time Mr. Tidy Bowl?


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 3, 2010 at 9:18 pm

Did anyone else here talk to them? They were talking about the Glass Steagall act. They didn't make any sense.


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Jun 3, 2010 at 9:27 pm

To "clueless", the truth of the matter is, Obommer, like Bush, etc.etc., are selected for the job, and it isn't by people. To begin with the elections are a fraud. The voting machines are just part of that. Even bigger is the media. They portray whoever as whatever they are told to by the real rulers of America, the Banksters, you know(or dont know), the same International Bankers that own the Federal Reserve Bank. For most, the media decides who they are going to vote for. After the elections, nobody actually keeps tabs on what the "winners" do. You get all your info from the same media that fooled you into supporting either one puppet or the other. Obommer has done the exact opposite of what he promised he would do, as he was playing his part in the run up to the election. Are you aware of the Exectutive Orders he has signed? Do you even know what an Executive Order is? The media does not publish most of what he does, and for good reason. If the people knew what Obommer and Bush etc. etc. have done behind closed doors, there would be a revolution before tomorrow. Using Executive Orders, a whole string of presidents have created laws that essentially void the Constitution. That is FACTUAL. Any president can now declare Martial law for whatever reason he chooses to, which will suspend ALL of the rights that you think you have, indefinitely. It is all in placed, Congress will be suspended immediately for 6 months and Fema will take charge. You and 99% of Americans are completely clueless to this. GO FIGURE! You doubt what I say? Do you have the guts to find out? NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51. HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20. Have at it, and thers more than that, much more. Our selected criminals in DC have been very busy while most were being entertained by whatever floats your boat. The boat is taking on water real fast. Fema will throw you an anchor.


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Posted by Janna
a resident of Dublin
on Jun 3, 2010 at 9:28 pm

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No one I have ever met on the left would portray our President as Hitler, no matter how disappointed they were in his job performance. Those women are delusional and not democrats nor liberals.


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Posted by Daphne
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 3, 2010 at 9:32 pm

I also spoke to one of these folks. There was a group of four others engaging two men in dialog when I approached. I asked them what they were up to, and when one fellow said that he wanted to impeach "that half-white, fake citizen...", I strolled away.

Make it real, or stay home, idiots.


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Jun 3, 2010 at 9:41 pm

Everybody wants to bitch about this or that. Nobody has a clue as to what needs to be fixed. Two things, if we don't fix two things it is all history for every American. END THE FED(Federal Reserve Bank) and get out of the United Nations. Everything else is absolutely nothing compared to those two monsters. Either WAKE UP or SHUT UP! This is the eleventh hour. If you are wondering why you haven't herd of this from the 6 Oclock news, you are beyond hope, you are not going to figure it out and will only drag down those around you that are waking up.


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Posted by Clueless
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 4, 2010 at 1:56 am

We all live among idiots. Go figure! I had that figured out all the way back in middle school.


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Posted by Nosy Neighbors
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jun 4, 2010 at 6:55 am

Lyndon Larousche is still alive? It MUST be election season again if this nut-job has resurfaced again.

I mean, c'mon L.L., the whole "Impeach Obama" thing is just sooooooo, last week. Cool posters though!


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Posted by Pleasantonian
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 4, 2010 at 6:56 am

I spoke to them. They could not even form a coherent argument. They don't know what an impeachable offense is, or what fascism is. They had no concept of how they were dishonoring the people who died in the Holocaust, the American soldiers who fought in that war, and numerous others by their ridiculous comparison between Obama and Hitler. They tried to compare health care reform to mass genocide.
I take umbrage with the fact that the President of the United States was portrayed in such a disrespectful manner in front of both a post office and a pre-school.
Stacy, LaRouche is not ultra-left. He morphs back and forth but dumped his Marxist leanings in the 70's and picked up some far-right issues along the way.


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Posted by Dark Corners of Town
a resident of Country Fair
on Jun 4, 2010 at 7:49 am

While PW was reporting on this irrelevant and inconsequential event, about one mile away, Meg Whitman was in town for a campaign event complete with Bay Area media. Will there be a PW article on this more relevant and consequential story? Or has PW become irrele....ahh, never mind.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 4, 2010 at 8:03 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Of course it is no "left" that the average person would recognize. They're that sort of "left" where the line between left and right is blurred. That's why I qualified it with the word "ultra".


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 4, 2010 at 8:22 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Web Link


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Posted by emanon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 4, 2010 at 8:30 am

I'm reminded of being downtown last year when some other activists were present. I was standing next to a fellow who turned to me and remarked, "Isn't that a disgrace?"

I replied, "You know, I don't have to agree with them to realize that in many places in the world, they'd be hauled off by the government for doing that. I'm grateful to be reminded how lucky we are to live here."

This was obviously not the reply he expected, but I still believe it.


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Posted by AR
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 4, 2010 at 8:40 am

Ignorant and racist really. Don't even try to tell me they would be doing this if President Obama were white.


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Posted by AR
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 4, 2010 at 8:45 am

Sorry, I meant to say they would not be doing this if he was white (not were). I just don't understand why they were allowed to mock our President in front of a U.S. post office. Ignorant AND disrespectful. This is what they are teaching their children. Shame on them for that!


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Posted by Jeff
a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Jun 4, 2010 at 8:54 am

Yes we "ARE" the people, who voted for these people to run out country...but let's face it...they do what they want! As for Obama, how can 1 guy be expected for fix the mess this country is in after years of mistakes and sticking out noises in other countries messes?
You might not like Obama, but give him credit for being brave enough to even run for the presidency. What a fun job...NOT!


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 4, 2010 at 9:08 am

Stacey is a registered user.

DCoT,

Actually it is good that the PW reported on these folks. It gives sense to the barrage of recent anti-Semitic, anti-federal-reserve, and anti-Obama posts on this site.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Pleasanton Middle School
on Jun 4, 2010 at 9:19 am

Just a bunch of Racist LOSERS at it again!!!! way to teach your kids right from wrong!!! yeah go out there and put a hitler mustache on The President of the United States... Nice.. Where were you when BUSH caused ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS??? Again.. more worthless Republicans with NO COMMON SENSE!!! Obviously your college education did NOTHING FOR YOU!! Racism has NO PLACE in this world yet you just keep on teaching your children all about it!! All you are saying, is you do NOT want a BLACK President!! you have NO CLUE about his work and what he CONTINUES to do for all of us!!! I would NEVER want my child around people like you!!!!!!!!


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Posted by ruth
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 4, 2010 at 9:50 am

It's a shame that those who sign petitions like these.. seek "only" to sign for their own recognition thinking they have done something for a cause that is useless... ignornace and lazyness....

what was worse was the poster of the president colored in like Hitler, that was useless, ... and a rude reminder to those of us whose families were killed by hitler...

the women at this stand were "young" and obviously ignorant and racist... shameful to abuse freedom to gather like that....

if you have an issue, bring it on with intelligence, not a colored in poster of the president as hitler, how foolish -

PLEASE REMOVE YOUR " IRRESPONSIBLE POLITICS " from the intelligent and important matters our country is facing.... WHAT A JOKE!



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Posted by Mary
a resident of Pleasanton Middle School
on Jun 4, 2010 at 9:53 am

Well said Ruth!!!!


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Posted by To Ruth
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 4, 2010 at 10:13 am

Ruth-
While I agree with most of your statements, please do not imply that their age was the reason for their ignorance. That is ridiculous.


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Posted by Julia
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 4, 2010 at 10:37 am

Posted by Mark...and Mark you are absolutely CORRECT. We the People have nothing to say about this matter...I have read you other statements Mark and it truly sounds like you have your ducks in a row. The past 4 at least presidents have the "Manchurian Presidents" all the way.

This is a very said situation, but a real fact of life.

And Cholo, it sometimes appears you have some good input...you would be listened to if you delete that tee hee hee tee hee hee BS. Say it right and put in the link...It appears you do research, so be respected for it and stop acting like a fool.

Thanks for listening, Julia from Alamo


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Posted by Julia
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 4, 2010 at 10:39 am

Hey, I apologize for miss-spelling sad...I dropped in an i in front of the d and the word came out to be said...sorry

Julia


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Posted by steve
a resident of Parkside
on Jun 4, 2010 at 10:40 am

Tell me which part of any protest against the president is racist? It's a conveneint excuse to try to silence the majority that oppose his policies, but it's a lazt weak excuse for not communicating a valid counter point.
Imagine if those women we black; would you raise a fuss about that or say it's racist because Obama is supposedly half white?
Playing the race card is an ignorant way out of having a real discussion about his failed policies.


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Posted by Kemo Sabe
a resident of Golden Eagle
on Jun 4, 2010 at 10:47 am

Committing a felony - impeachable, sex with an intern - priceless. Yes, we have standup politicians.


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Posted by Nosy Neighbors
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jun 4, 2010 at 10:59 am

I'm reminded of a quote.

"Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince."


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Posted by you
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 4, 2010 at 11:05 am

yea, its not the age, its the shameful disposition of ignorance by a generation who have passed on their ideas for a non intelligent quick solution to a problem that was created by a government rather than a president... manchurian, yes... always has been.

Or it's just racism... yes, he is black and white... but no one has really considered him white, only black.

And what's up with the Hitler thing,
how weird is that?

Our community is going to heck with people like this around... please move to the city and start your riot there.
thank you very much.

these girls are just in need to do something for recognition. why not join a church community and help those in need?

put your efforts to something that will grow rather than causing chaos..

shame on you for not thinking this through and shame on those for not being smart enough to do their research about this group.

running on political emotion for those things you will never change.
not good!

change the things you can and be happy with just that.

flying your ego and opinion of something you can never accomplish will do no good, just harm.






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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 4, 2010 at 11:40 am

tee hee hee, tee hee hee...lots of readers check out what I post...tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

G.B. Shaw on said that the best thing to do with adice is to pass it on!

PING!


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 4, 2010 at 11:41 am

Correction: once said; advice


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Posted by ME...
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jun 4, 2010 at 12:51 pm

People do you really think that Obama gives a flying ... about us... the only thing he cares about is his own agenda. He so set on his personal agenda that he isn't even concerned about the oil, it's just a distraction from his master plan to become a socialist country... People do not realize that every decisions he makes is going to effect are country for generations.. Doesn't matter witch side of the fence your on you have got to see the reality of the future that is being left for the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren to clean up this mess were in. I didn't even vote for Bush but I cant tell you I am sick and tired of not having a president in charge that can't MAN-UP and take care of this country.... We look weaker everyday, prime for a take over........ It's happening from every stage front, just look around.. By the way,I am a AMERICAN ... I am tired of being called a racist... I am automatically a racist becasue I'm white.. I don't think so and I'm tried of being called one just becasue I question the president... Isn't that are job and American citizens...


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Posted by Disgusted
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 4, 2010 at 1:14 pm

Anyone who thinks that Obama should be in prison, is an idiot. And calling him a terrorist? You need to get your definitions and facts straight. So far, this President has been the only one with balls to rebuild this country after Bush and others destroyed it. If you think that Obama doesn't deserve to be where his now, then get the hell of our country and take the women (not ladies) from the Post Office with you!!


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Posted by ME..
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jun 4, 2010 at 2:00 pm

Exactly my point, you are how you are and I am who I am, and it's becasue this is a amazing country that we both can write and say what we feel. We should have the right to say and feel what we want too, with out being called crazy,ignorant and racist. This page asks for COMMENTS... That's what they are and everyone has a right to them....
Before you tell people my way or leave the country, Remember your own words, you may fight and be passionate about the president now, but both future and past presidents deserve that same respect. And people need to be willing to support them the same as you support the current president.. Every president needs to MAN UP to the job, or don't run for it.... I question the president... Isn't that are job and American citizens... Were would we all be tomorrow if we all agreed on everything and there was nothing worth feeling for...


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Posted by Fiddle de-do-da
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 4, 2010 at 5:58 pm

Rome is burning (oil spill) and Pleasantonians and Americans are playing the fiddle. You all should take a bow


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Posted by Big Poppa
a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 4, 2010 at 9:20 pm

So criticizing Barry you are now a racist? I seem to remember seeing photos of Bush being portrayed as Hitler and there were movies made about his assassination. I don't like Barry because he is BAD for the US. All you have to do is look in her background and you will discover who he was raised by (father a communist), and who he associated with in his adult life and you will see the real Barry.

The sooner he's gone the better.


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Posted by Hey Big Poppa
a resident of Canyon Creek
on Jun 4, 2010 at 10:16 pm

Hey Big Poppa-

You need to read an autobiography of President Obama. He met his father only twice. How you can think his father had much of an influence on him, is beyond me (except showing him what he shouldn't be). Stop watching Fox news.


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Posted by Hey Big Poppa
a resident of Canyon Creek
on Jun 4, 2010 at 10:16 pm

Sorry, I should have written Fox "news"


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Posted by thank you...
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Jun 4, 2010 at 10:17 pm

Thank you Disgusted. You said what I was thinking.


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Posted by A teachable moment
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 4, 2010 at 10:43 pm


It's great that we live in a country where we have the right to say and believe what we want, but then be prepared for the reaction to the character you show. If that is how you want to be viewed by your community, that's your prerogative.

As I drove by you ladies, my son couldn't believe you had drawn on our president's face. At ten, even he knows more about respect. You helped instigate a good conversation about respecting authority whether you agree with them or not. I'm not worried about the poor role model you are, to me and my son, you looked like the fool and your poor character was on display for all to see.


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Posted by Ranting aside
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 4, 2010 at 11:21 pm

It should be noted that regardless of our opinions on the matter,
in many countries people would not have the right to speak their minds in public without grave consequences!
I am not a fan of Obama AT ALL, but he is our president and that position is one that should be respected. I would not express myself in such a negative manner in front of my kids, but they do know my feelings.
There was a person in front of the Dublin post office holding an impeach Obama sign also. He was black, a man, and in his 40's, so I think we can say this is not a racist or sexist matter.


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Posted by Big Poppa
a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 4, 2010 at 11:41 pm

@ Hey Big Poppa,

Just beacuse he meet his father twice doesn't mean that he was not influnced by him. Obama read his father's economic papers that not only influnced him it helped forged his (Barry)identity. How else do you explain that Barry and his dad have the same socialist ideals.


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Posted by WTF
a resident of Canyon Meadows
on Jun 4, 2010 at 11:51 pm

Come on - Big Poppa - can you please learn English. "Just because he meet his father..." "


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Jun 5, 2010 at 1:24 am

A lot of people are taking advantage of or hiding behind the "race card" and or the "anti-semitic card" factor, sometimes to the point it is criminal. If one used that trump card to their advantage knowing that is was not true, would that make him/her guilty of being the racist?

I found the falling on the web the other day and I agree with it:

"When the government of any nation forgets its people and, instead, focuses on defending and promoting the interests of powerful corporations, you no longer have a Democracy. Instead, you have a Plutocracy, where the wealthy elite control the political process and use laws to further enrich themselves at the expense of the public.
It's an accurate description of what's happening in America today: The public is no longer represented by the Senate, the FDA, the USDA or the EPA. Instead, each of these governmental bodies (legislative for the Senate, executive for the other departments) is now operating in the interests of corporations. Campaign finance reform, of course, is impossible under such circumstances, since no corporate-controlled Senate will ever vote to cut itself off from corporate money. Thus, the only outcome of the situation is a further erosion of the integrity of U.S. legislative processes to the point where the public is impoverished, the nation is bankrupt, and the corporations run the government." Web Link


If you don't see that Obommer, like Bush, is promoting a hidden agenda that does not serve the best interest of this countries citizens , you are not paying attention. It is not all that hidden either. You have to go deeper than what you see on TV or read in the paper though, if you want to find any truth. It takes some effort and it will cut into your entertainment time. While Americans are being entertained, we are losing our country.

If you want a very interesting and knowledgable read, go to the link that I provided. To be honest, you really need to learn about the subject (fluoride) and how it is adversely effecting yor health. It also demonstrates the power of the corporations to determine government policy which increases their proffits but poisons us(especially children) and the environment. Since it's been going on for 70 years and crossing back and forth both political party lines, it adds to the proof that all of the presidents and/or Congress in that time period have been promoting an agenda that is not in our best interest. If it's broke you fix it. It's broke and they doing nothing about it. As far as they are concerned, it isn't broke then. As far as they are concerned, our concerns do not matter.

A good example:
Most of Europe has passed laws that ban fluoride supplementation to their drinking water. These people have done their research. The State of California on the other hand, in 1995 mandated that fluoride be added to the drinking water in the state.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 5, 2010 at 8:59 am

Stacey is a registered user.

C'mon mark, admit it. You're a LaRouchie.

BTW, Livermore does not fluoridate their water.


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Posted by Bunjo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 5, 2010 at 9:41 am

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Godwin's Law yet.

From Wikipedia: Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's law of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990 which has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."[3][2]

Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread reductio ad Hitlerum form. The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.

Basically once you start bringing Hitler into the debate you have lost all credibility which these women did.

I was at the post office and saw this set up with the Hitler posters and even though I am politically conservative I thought it was ridiculous. When I was leaving the post office I saw a man yelling at them and decided to go over and have a "intelligent debate" with them. Here is how it played out. I use the term:

Me: Hi, first of all let me tell you I believe in free speech and whether I agree or disagree with you I firmly believe you have the right to express your opinions and that if people disagree they can debate it with you rationally and they don't have to yell.

woman # 1: thank you for that

Me: Let me tell you that I am conservative politically AND I am Jewish which is very rare as most Jews are liberal. With that being said I probably agree with some of the stuff you are saying about Obama's policies, but to depict him as Hitler is an insult to the 6 million Jews that were killed by him.

woman # 1: Obama is worse then Hitler and he is going to kill more then 6 million people if he's allowed to continue (I should also add that at this point she is already starting to raise her voice to me).

Me: You've got to be kidding me. I don't care what Obama does he's never going to march millions of people into ovens.

woman # 1: It may not be ovens, but it may as well be Obama is a Facist...

Me: (I interupt her) Facist, can you even tell me the definition of a Facist?

woman #1: We all know what Facist's are (obviously she didn't)

Me: Listen all I'm telling you is you would get your message across better if all you did was NOT depict Obama as Hitler. It doesn't do your organization any good. Jews certainly aren't going to like it.

woman #2: Plenty of Jews are on our side and I am Jewish. A matter of fact my Great Grandmother was in a camp during the holocaust.

Me: Well I'm assuming she's not alive and she would be spinning in her grave if she could see what you're doing. Again all I'm saying is I probably agree with you on some of your points, but you're never going to get it across this way. You just look like lunatics and you're just as bad as the lunies on the other side, like Code Pink.

woman #1 - listen if you don't agree with us then we don't need you here.

Me: see that's what I mean you are just as bad as the other side. You cannot have an intelligent debate on anything and it's either your way or the highway.

I then proceeded to leave. I wanted to call some people and create a counter protest, but didn't have time. I can assure you I will if I ever see them again.

By the way I used the term woman above loosely. I should have said girls because that's what they were. I could tell from talking with them they knew nothing about the real issues and were doing this for the attention. I'm not saying this as some old codger, I'm only 45. It was so obvious that if they were to debate me they would not have a prayer.

Let's not forget that Bush was portrayed as Hitler and when that was happening there were plenty of liberals who condemned that portrayal as well. I've seen a lot of these types of people on tv, but never come face to face with people who have this twisted logic and it was a real eye opener.


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Posted by Change The Balance Of Power
a resident of Country Fair
on Jun 5, 2010 at 11:12 am

The solution to neutralizing Obama's policies is on election day in November 2010. If we replace enough Democrats with Republicans, Libertarians, and TEA Party candidates, then Obama becomes relataively powerless for the last 2 years of his first (and only) term.
The people with a sign have an obvious First Amendment right to express their views. However, impeaching Obama would not occur with the Democrat controlled Congress that we have now, and then we would just end up with Joe Biden.
The opponents of the people with the sign resort to what is the typical left-wing tactic of attacking the person rather than discussing the ideas. Left-wingers: If you disagree with someone's ideas, discuss the ideas; don't malign the speaker.
Also, don't "play the race card" anymore. It's not working. People who disagree with Obama's policies do so based on principles, not based on the color of anyone's skin.


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Posted by scooder
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Jun 5, 2010 at 12:36 pm

I can't believe how this city is being turned inside out by idiots, both afield and on this comment thread. Greed and self-servitude seems to have become mainstream, as well as the collective and selective short-attention span. And now Pleasanton is infected.

Where was all the grumbling when the country began getting flushed down the crapper under Bush and his greedy cronies in Congress?

Yeah - these folks aren't at all racist. Not at all.


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Posted by Big Mama
a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 5, 2010 at 1:19 pm

Okay, If you want honesty I admit that I do not like Obama because he is a black Liberal Democrat. One the other hand I love JC Watts because he is a black Conservative Republican.

Name one city, state, or Country that is led by a black Liberal that is successful.


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Jun 5, 2010 at 2:31 pm

Bunjo, have you ever considered that Godwins Law may be more propaganda and designed to suppress free speech. There is much more Nazism, Communism, Socialism, Facism, the "isms" at play than people know of or are willing to admit. Did you know that after World War II, the US put some of the Nazis directly into the CIA? Germany may have lost the war, the Nazis did not. If not for American Corporations, Hitler would not have risen to power like he did. Same corporations made the German war machine what is was also. Standard Oil was an essential part of that. Prescott Bush(George W Bush grandfather) had a big part in financing Hitler and he also benefitted from the labor of prisoners held in concentration camps in Poland. Call them what you want, but the "Nazis" are alive and well. Info is everywhere on the internet.Web Link


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Posted by lyndalu
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jun 5, 2010 at 8:10 pm

First, let me say that I'm no fan of President Obama. Now, for these ugly bitter ladies who have nothing better to do with their time than collect a few signatures from some Pleasanton residents (which accomplishes nothing) - GET A LIFE! If you're that bored, volunteer your time at a charity.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 6, 2010 at 12:26 pm

There are lots of nasty folks in town with friends in low places.


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Posted by Lisa
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 6, 2010 at 2:49 pm

Sounds like a lynch mob to me.
I am deeply sickened by the hitler moustache.
I can only attribute that to stupidity.
The underlying motivation here seems to be racist. Perhaps that moustache should have been worn by those who were protesting.


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Posted by Give me a break!
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 6, 2010 at 3:03 pm

Lisa, were you offecnded by the posters of Bush portraying him with a Hitler mustache and swastikas? I doubt it.

Whatever the agenda of these Lyndon laRouche followers, they are protected by the Constitution. And for Janna, Scooder, and a host of others out there, Lyndon LaRouche followers are leftists; they are not Bush supporters. Racists? Maybe, but it's not against the law to dislike people of different races.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 6, 2010 at 11:00 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

To quote another frequent poster....

Mark, you're BUSTED.


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Posted by Lisa
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 6, 2010 at 11:45 pm

Give me a break
"Racists? Maybe, but it's not against the law to dislike people of different races. "

FYI
I am offended by hitler and his moustache, swastikas and racism in any context.
What you do or do not doubt is irrelevant.
Your comments speak to your character.


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Posted by Jared S. Fogle
a resident of Dublin
on Jun 7, 2010 at 3:29 pm

The fat girl with the nasty belly in the white should stop eating fast food and do some sit ups.


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Posted by m
a resident of Beratlis Place
on Jun 7, 2010 at 5:00 pm

eeh eeh eet, eeh eeh eet...


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Posted by Milan
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2010 at 5:42 pm

I'm a moderate republican, and I don't agree with all of Obama's politics, but I believe he is our nation's leaders and deserves some respect, considering the insane odds he's beat to be where he is now. He serves as an inspiration to me, and things like calling for his impeachment, especially in a predominantly white upper class community like Pleasanton are blatantly racist, but not your average "I'm an ignorant and prejudiced fool" racism, more like "Deep down I'm racist, but I cover my racism with a cloak of patriotism." Things like this are sickening. These people need to read real news (the economist, Cnn) and start acting and thinking rationally. This is an outrage.

email me if you'd like

trivedim96@gmail.com


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Posted by Bunjo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2010 at 6:16 pm

To: mark, a resident of another community, on Jun 5, 2010 at 2:31 pm. You obviously took the concept of Goodwin's Law a) to seriously and b) too literally so let me simplify it.

What it basically says is that what Hitler did was so vile, disgusting and the worst thing a human being could ever do. Therefore if in any debate a person describes someone as being like Hitler, they have lost the argument to their absurdity.


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Posted by Lisa
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2010 at 10:41 pm

Well put, Milan.
And thank-you, Bunjo.


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