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I find it interesting that "member" Linda Bountis is quoted, she is not a member her mother Jean is. So again the information that is put out is incorrect.
Drop any employer based health insurance, dump the union and get back to work.
I really feel sorry for all that members that support the workers and don't deserve to go through all this situation. Unfortunately the arrogant and imposing attitude of the board of directors and the management towards the employees are giving results. I have to say that not the kind of results that they expected. Unions support each other and believe me when I say that the Local 2850 have more funds to stand against the club than they do to stand against the Union. Losing events, not being able to recruit new members, all the bad publicity (because that doesn't has price) and filling the lawyer's pockets are going to leave that place in a condition that you have never thought about not even in your wildest dreams. Wait for your annually report next January and you are going to see the good job on how this situation is being handle. I heard that the Management is planning to keep the lock out as long as possible. Hurrah for the board of directors,keep this war against the Union that they have made their own personal vendetta and all those filthy rich are going to have to declare bankruptcy. Hurrah for the board directors and Hurrah for Jerry Olson and his ability to deal with this issue. Do you want me to say it again? HURRAH
The harassment by the protesters towards the members is over the top. I really don't feel sorry for them anymore. Everyone makes choices in life. Choose a job that offers health benefits somewhere else.
To choose where to work is up to the workers; not up to you. The real harassment hasn't started yet, just wait and see, in one or two months nobody would want to book a party there. All those arrogant people are going to see the big mistake that put all the workers on the street was. The board of directors thought that it was going to be easy to have their personal vendetta against the Union and workers. HURRAH for the Workers.
What this article tells me is that the union has a split in their employee ranks. They call for a "Community Briefing" and the same 10 employees and family members that show up to picket showed up for this meeting. The vast majority of the employees don't even bother to come because they are too embarrassed and want to settle this by voting on the contract offer Castlewood has made. The people that show for these meetings and chant how bad Castlewood members treat them are mostly janitorial and part time employees who have very little if any interaction with the members. The full time workers want to vote so they can get back to work. The union offer that Hueber keeps talking about has never been made at the bargaining table, will be interesting to see what she proposes at today's negotiating secession.
On the issue of health care, it is an option to purchase the family insurance, it is not mandatory. If the spouse has a better option at their place of employment then they have the right to purchase that or they can go onto the open market to purchase a more affordable plan. The employees are not required to purchase any insurance if they don't wish too and there is no penalty for not buying it.
Lastly, if you became a janitor and thought that was the type of job and pay that would provide for a family, you are sadly mistaken. The job of flipping burgers, mopping floors or washing windows was never intended to provide a wage and benefits to raise a family. It is mostly a dead end job and you need to get a better education to move up the food chain. The higher you go up the chain the better the pay and benefits get.
I encourage Castlewood management to hold the line until the union lets the employees vote on the final offer that was made in December.
Who are the full time employees? Steve fritas; the bartender? He has been lying since the beginning to the employees, the management , the members, and the board of directors. Another one would be Jose Lopez in the kitchen, he said to some of the employees that he was going to vote yes on keeping the Union, but that he was going to tell the opposite to the managers so he could be ok with both sides. Does it sound ethical to anyone? Thank to this two people we have this situation right now. Of course we wanted to keep the Union. Another employee that could get special privileges by the managers would be Jaime Tostado in the Valley. That is why they voted against the Union. During past negotiations Jerry Olson seemed to be a strong person but after everything that has happened I really doubt that he can inspire a little respect anymore. To bad for the Managers.
Unite Here locked out employees need some new chants. Maybe we the readers can help, I'll start with these suggestions.
"Castlewood your the best, thank you for the rest"
"Castlewood your out of order, please don't send us back to the boarder"
I encourage Castlewood management to hold the line too. Right now I doubt that they will be able to get new members anymore even if they offer a free membership and a free sandwich included. We will see in a couple of months, they are going to accept the old contract that was signed three years, and probably offering more. I really feel sorry for the arrogance of the board of directors; they just forgot that Unions tend to be very strong, and like in every war the stronger side always win. HURRAH
New chants? what about some like this.
The Union has stated; poor Castlewood is frustrated.
Castlewood and its arrogance won't prevail; the Union will show them with detail.
I really like how it sounds, probably I should be picketing with them and of course I would love to bring new chants; real chants that really describe the country club.
The Union talks about its proposal that has never been presented in a formal bargaining session. At yesterday's meeting, no one, including Ms. Huber nor Mr. Haggerty, mentioned the fact that FORMAL bargaining sessions were scheduled weeks ago for today. (Both individuals knew of today's meeting.) But you make it sound like it is a direct result of yesterdays meeting. NOT SO!!!!
And Mrs.Carranza suggests that the insults and slurs they screech at members during their antics in protest are "JUST CHANTS, they don't mean any disrespect". If one of the CWCC members were to turn those chants around, it would become a major union issue. Mrs. Carranza and Ms. Huber know that, but still they claim it is nothing personal. My A--!
And the number of $12.50/hour plus. If this is an accurate number, which I doubt it is, how is this different than the union quoted $12.50/hour plus tips the locked-out union personnel receive for the same work? I don't get it. This sounds like more disinformation from a union source that you glibly state as fact.
Call me stupid, but if the people who represent the locked-out workers are not completely honest in what they represent to their union members as far as what has really transpired during actual bargaining sessions (not after the lock-out), led trespassers on to private property and invaded private facilities with news media in tow, mislead public officials who are looking only as far as the June primaries, and tell CWCC members they really don't mean what they chant and say during their protest marches and property invasions, how can they ever believe they can repair the damage these tactics have caused.
I guess the union believes CWCC is just another Marriott, Hyatt or Hilton. When this is all over, the union will move on to some other disruptive activity in the name of worker representation, and the CWCC workers will be left to deal with whatever the outcome. Just like unions do with big corporations. In the CWCC case it is not a big corporation. It is a group of individual owners, not an NYSE corporate entity. There is a MAJOR difference!!!!
Lost in the midst of this disdain for lockouts (and it's a legitimate one, thank you, Mr. Haggerty) is the mind of Ms. Huber.
If there is a split within the union, then which side is stronger, the pro-Hubers or anti-Hubers? While I'm very disappointed in the CCC's lockout actions, might Ms. Huber be partially responsible if she did not conduct herself in a most professional manner? I see workers that are worth trusting, but I remain just as suspicious with Ms. Huber as I am with the members who hurt their Club's efforts to work out a deal by saying hurtful things toward the employees. When both sides choose informational substance over egotistical style, then this mess will be cleaned up.
It's a shame because most of the CCC members are very solid people who didn't ask either side to create a riff. Part of me is convinced the most shafted people in this battle are the members who just want to go about their lives with no ill will toward anyone.
Like "Observer" said;
" The Union has stated; poor Castlewood is frustrated"
" Castlewood and its arrogance won't prevail; the Union will show them with detail"
You just don't get it do you. The gig is over. The more you chant insults at the members the worse it is for you. You have made too many enemies with the members for you to ever come back to work at Castlewood. Keep following the union down the road to nowhere. Tell me, has Ms Huber missed a paycheck like you have for the past 2 months? Just think, if you had voted the union out when you had the chance you would have been at work TODAY. You didn't so now you picket and call the members names. Not a smart move on your part.
I suggest that you take "Observer" and you both go look for a job. Perhaps your friendly union can help you find one.
Unfortunately for "Worker" since he or she works for that place cannot say how the workers really feel. Today is lucky day " Members Unite", I can say whatever I want, nothing is over; I really like when people are so naive.
The important fact is that the members don't want the union workers back? I'm sorry but you are going to see them again. Fortunately there are laws that protect people and employees from arrogant employers that think that can do what ever they want. You my dear member show how naive some rich people can be. You already paid more money to your fellow lawyer in a few hours than the workers do in a whole year to the Union. You are losing events and functions every week; let's see. Did you know about the prom that just got canceled? and there are many more examples. HURRAH for the rich people that have so much money that can throw it away and they don't know it. HURRAH
HURRAH for "Members Unite" and for the board of directors. HURRAH
How much money do you think the club lost on the "prom", come on Observer or is it Ms. Huber get real.
You are the ones that just don't get it. It is not about one single event but many that you already got canceled and there are many more to come. Who would like to be a new member of Castlewood Country Club? It is a beautiful place but besides that it has nothing special to offer but problems; Mr JP or is it Jerry Olson. You already paid to your lawyer about $50k, if the negotiations continue in the same way; he is about to get $50k more which gives the great total of $100k. Now you ask how much money did you lose with the prom? About $15k at least plus all the bad publicity and that for sure has no price. It is the same thing with all the events that you lose. Add all together and tell me if by the end of the summer $200 means nothing plus no new members. Do the math; just think about it. Only because the board of directors and Jerry Olson have a personal vendetta against the Union? Is it worth it?
It's interesting that residents of Dublin have so much interest in an issue taking place in Pleasanton. Why do you care about a country club that you probably never visit? This should be between the club members, their representatives and the union (who supposedly is representing the employees).
At the very beginning of this whole controvery, the employees wanted to vote for what the club proposed (so there would be no loss of work) and the union interfered and wouldn't allow it. In my opinion, they didn't help their union members, they hurt them. Who wants to belong to a union that doesn't listen to your desires and ultimately harms you by doing what they want?
More interesting I should say is that someone that should be more involved in this issue, has not clue of what is going on in their own backyard; am I right? If you think that the Union is hurting the employees by not having a legitimate fight against the club just wait. What makes you think that the Board of directors and the Management aka Jerry Olson are doing something that can really benefit the club (general members who have no clue of what is going on). They lie to you; why don't ask them what is really going on? As I stated before it is only about pride and a personal vendetta against the Union. The last think that Jerry Olson care is if the picketing bother you or not; as long as he makes the employees miserable it is justified. HURRAH for him and for those who believe him. HURRAH
For anyone that thinks a prom is a money maker for the club really does not know anything about the food service business. At a prom is any alcohol sold or any wine purchased? That is were money is made.
For the money that we loosing, how much money are we saving in the non payment of medical premiums for 61 employees?
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I have to go now but please feel free to post your comments and I will answer every single one when I come back. Peace
Let us know how the negoiations went this afternoon. My guess is that you will not be a happy camper.
Note that it is 'Observer' that plays the race card.
I am a employee at castlewood cc and I would like to tell everybody the real situation at the club in regards to the labor dispute. We have heard stories from the left and from the right about the so-called lockout. Here is the truth.----- I supported the Union all the way through the negotiations up until the club gave us there FINAL PROPOSAL back in Dec. of 09'. At that point, I thought it would be in the best interest of both sides to put it to a VOTE.[accepting the club's final offer]. I knew, that at that point, it would simply be --take it or leave it.--I was right. The Club has not moved an inch in 4 months! That's right;4 months and counting. Oh, wait a minute, the Club did move on there proposal. They offered all full time senior employees, a $1.00 an hr. raise across the board! That in itself,---- since I worked full-time,---would have lowered my employee contributions toward medical, from $366.00 a month, to about $206.00 a month. Of course, the Union rejected this offer. The Union ONLY cares about the families with kids. Yes, I admit it would be next to impossible to pay $750.00 a month with Castlewood wages, however, again, it's TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!! These picketers need to get there head out of the sand and WAKE-UP. What on earth would it take for these people to realize the club don't give a damn if we are locked-out for 10 months. These people don't want to come back to work. They are SERIOUSLY hurting our cause to get back to work. All they care about is reduced medical premiums.So do I. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!! I feel sorry for the employees with families. But I strongly feel that if they are required to pay $750.00 a month, just for medical coverage alone; that they should unfortunately work elsewere. Castlewood doesn't pay well enough to be able to afford that kind of premium every month. Castlewood is a great place to work if your single,----NOT IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY!!--- Yes the Club will survive if they continue to pay 100% of ALL employees health care, as they have done for the last 25 yrs. However, they no longer want to pay for the family coverage!! So, again, it's TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT! I have asked our Union president,Wai-Ling Huber,over, and over, and over, to Please,Please,Please let us union employees be allowed to vote on the companies revised final proposal. Everytime she has refused to let us vote!!!!! She has told me,---"we will vote when we get a good contract offer". That my friends will never happen! I am pleading with the Union to PLEASE let me and all my co-workers vote on the clubs revised final proposal one last time.I firmly believe that if we are allowed to vote, MOST of us would be willing to FINALLY accept the club's revised final proposal once and for all!! This lock-out can end quickly and easily if these actions are taken. Anyone would would like to help us, can simply call our Union President Wai-Ling Huber at the local's headquarters at 1-510-893-3181 and ask her to LET US VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!---Thankyou very much.
The cost of happiness, it seems, is higher than either side thought.
But I thought that with Obamacare being implemented the need for all silly arguments over what degree of health care being provided by the CCC would be a moot point by now.
...Oh, I get it. The workers want something BETTER than what the chosen one has promised.
Back to the picket lines boys & girls, the rain has stopped.
Haggerty the Horrible sticking his big fat butt in where it doesn't belong again. Vote the turkey out!
The following proposals appear on a flyer distributed by the workers to anyone willing to take one. After reading the proposals, I had some questions and thoughts for both sides, I have listed some of them below the proposals
What is the Difference in Cost between Castlewood Country Club and the Union's Proposal regarding Insurance and Raises ?
UNDER OLD CONTRACT
Monthly cost of Providing Medical to the 39 workers who qualified because they worked at least 80 hours or 16 shifts per month. In 2009 not every worker qualified every month
- Single coverage (avg. # per mo.) 12 workers @ $544.24 cost per wkr. $6,531
- Family coverage (avg. # per mo.) 24 workers @ $922.11 cost per wkr. $22,131
- Total Cost per month $28,662
UNDER UNION PROPOSAL
Monthly cost of providing medical ONLY to the 33 workers who work full time
- Single coverage (worker pays $25) 14 workers Club pays $371.91 $5,206
- Single plus 1 (worker pays $125) 7 workers Club pays $658.84 $4,612
- Full Family (worker pays $225) 12 workers Club pays $990.99 $11,892
- Total Monthly cost $21,710
Additional savings by instituting a longer waiting period for new hires
- # of people hired each year (based on 2008) 8
- # of additional months for each worker to wait before he or she has coverage 4
- Average cost of medical per worker per month $796
- Total savings per year $25,472
- Total savings per month $ 2,123
Total Monthly cost of Union Proposal $19,587 ($21,710 - $2,123)
UNDER CLUB MANAGEMENT'S PROPOSALl
Monthly cost of providing medical ONLY to the 33 workers who work full time
- Single coverage (worker pays $0) 14 workers Club pays $396.91 $5,557
- Single plus 1 (worker pays $366) 7 workers Club pays $436.91 $3,058
- Full Family (worker pays $739) 12 workers Club pays $476.91 $5,723
- Total Monthly cost of medical insurance $14,338
Additional cost by increasing wages for full-time workers by
$1/hour as offered by Club on February 25th, 2010
- Additional wages each month 37 workers, Avg. hours per worker 149.79 = $5,542
- Plus payroll taxes @ 12% =$602
- Total Monthly cost of Club management's Proposal $20,482
*The 33 fulltime workers v. the 37 fulltime workers
4 of the fulltime workers choose to not participate in healthcare
-Why is the Club offering to pay 100% of the cost for single coverage insurance ?
-Why is the Union only offering "worker pays $25" towards the cost of single coverage insurance ?
Both the Union and the Club's proposals re: worker contribution towards the cost of single coverage insurance is unacceptable $125 per month contribution from worker for single coverage sounds more like it. As far as the "Single plus one coverage" and the "Full family coverage", the proposal by the union is exactly that, "a proposal". On a green paper flyer distributed by the workers, two workers state "we are willing to pay more but there is no way we can afford Castlewoods proposal." I believe the workers are ultimately willing to pay more than the current proposal but I know the workers averaging $12.05 per hour wages cannot pay $739 per month for family coverage.
I'm not totally convinced the "additional saving instituted by the longer waiting peroids .." under the Union Proposal will actually play out as suggested. The proposed saving totaled $2,123 per month, just for kicks remove that savings from the union proposal, so lets go with the "pre-savings " monthly amount provided, $21,710. If the14 single workers contribute $100 more, if the 7 single plus 1 workers contribute $75 more and the 12 full family workers contribute$75 more = these additional contributions by workers total $2,825 per month Reduce the $21,710 by $2,825 = $18,825, thats less than the $20,482
club proposal (including $1/hr increase). OK, just for fun, what if club member paid $5 more per month dues (600 members = $3,000) lets reduce the $18,825 by $3000 = $15,825. Thats only $1,487 more than the $14,338 offered to pay for workers coverage.
The workers contribute more, the members kick in approx. $5 bucks each and the Top 2 or 3 management at the club take a 2% annual pay cut and the $1,487 disappears.These are just a few suggestions from a layman, IM SURE THE PROS COULD DO A LOT BETTER, ID LIKE THEM TO RESUME TRYING, I BELIEVE WE CAN WORK THIS OUT, LETS WORK TOGETHER TO BRIDGE THE GAP. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ MY THOUGHTS/SUGGESTIONS.
- Why can't the Club apply the proposed wage increase (totaling over $5,500 per month) to the cost of medical insurance ?
@ CONCERNED: You just don't get it. From what I see, CCC does not want the union back, period. A few G's won't make a difference to most of the members. From what I hear, CCC have found replacements for those union workers. End of story...move on.
What "CONCERNED" and others don't figure into their calculations is that Castlewood also has another 75 non union people that it employees. In fairness Castlewood does not discriminate between the two, they all receive the same pay packages for their comparable jobs in the tri valley area. ALL employees receive the same exact health care benefits regardless of where they are union or non union employees. So when you start to do the figures as CONCERNED did above you need to increase his figures by about 130% in order to come even close to what the real cost is for Castlewood each month.
I understand that the union doesn't care about the non union employees, but they do exist and the Castlewood Board of Directors has stated at open meetings that they are committed to treating each and every employee with respect and paying them a competitive salary with free health care for each
And to think, CA is a 'fire at will' state. So sad the union ever got in CCC....rights for both sides disappear when the (really stupid, out-of-touch)union bosses make victims out of the workers and forever the relationships between the workers and the MEMBERSHIP is gone.
Um Â… while you guys are arguing, can I get a tee time? I have always wanted to play that course!
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Um, davis, I mean wise guy, you will only be able to get a tee time and be able to use the course, when you fork over a minimum of $25,000 dollars for membership. To much for you Mr. Wise Guy. Get a life!
Okay, let's get this straight. A majority of union people voted for Obama. Obama in turn rams through a health care "reform" bill. He promised to add 20 million people to heatlh care, don't the union workers wonder why they are not part of this 20 million. Vote smarter next time.
If the union workers have an issue with healthcare, please contact your President and let him know he has failed you.
somebody tell us how to get Union President Wai-Ling Huber to take a vote!! everybody keeps fighting but if we can't vote it doesn't matter! we really don't know how many workers want to pass or how many don't want to pass the PROPOSAL. she stands in the middle saying she doesnt think the PROPOSAL is good, but she doent work for c.c.c she needs to let us vote so we know what the all the workers think! not just a handful of them.
c.c.c. worker: clearly it's too late for any voting. By enacting a provision that allows the club to outsource more easily, you won't find much work to do even if you were allowed back. Go look for another job.
As with all businesses and non-profit organizations, Castlewood needed to reduce health care costs which we all know are skyrocketing. We also know - and most Castlewood union members realized - that employees everywhere are paying a greater share of coverage. The issue should have been resolved in 2008 but the contract was extended for a year. Castlewood budgets for lower operating costs after September of 2009. The union fails to show up for several meetings and fails to react to proposals in a timely manner. September 2009 comes and goes, progress is at a snails pace and health care costs are still too high. Castlewood is forced to put a final offer on the table. Many employees want to vote on the proposal - the union refuses to let that happen. Obviously a "yes" vote ends the matter but even a "no" vote sends a message to management that it needs to rethink the proposal. As it stands now, all management sees (and members too) is a group of pickets for hire - with only one or two "real" employees in sight. Employees, not the union, should decide whether a vote is appropriate. Maybe the proposal isn't that bad and the union knows it.
Funny it has come out in the article above that Castlewood wanted to fire Francisca Carranza for some reason (I assume poor job performance) and now she is the poster child for the union. She represents herself at all of these meetings as a poor sole that is being picked on by the big bad country club yet she may not be the "good" worker she claims to be. Unions at their finest, protect the bad worker at the cost of the good workers.
No, it was not about poor job but what can you know about really working hard, right? rich boy? do you think you can do it better? Did mommy and daddy pay for your education? Not everybody is that lucky. I honestly enjoy reading ignorant comments from people like you. It really makes me appreciate things that really are valuable. Some people open the mouth only because God gave them mouth. The Union is not going anywhere, there was a negotiation a yesterday and club was asking to stop the picketing; they said please. Please stop it; we can not handle it anymore. Pittyful
To Tom; a castlewood employee.
You really should be ashamed of yourself. Do you think that selling your soul to the devil or should I say Castlewood things are going to be better?
There is only space for one placee in hell and fortunately is Castlewood and not the Union.
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Its really sad to see the employees who give money to the Unions and who vote Democrat just get totally screwed. Haggarty, Tancreno (or however you spell his name) and Hosterman ....use your plight for their own political gain and use you as pawns.
The Union takes your money and doesn't allow you to vote and basically forces you out of a job. Meanwhile the non-union workers continue to work and get the exact same package everyone else does. Then you get dimwit "observer" acting all aggressively and making absolutely no point at all over and over...speaking for you in this forum.
I guarantee you! The union will not win this fight and they wont lose this fight either...only the union worker will lose. That is the really sad part of this whole thing.
The Union and Democrats want to keep you dependent on them...that's how they stay in power. They want to keep you ignorant...all the better to manipulate you.
I heard the union begged for a better contract and CCC ask that the union let their members vote on the current proposal.
Sad for the workers that the union can't represent you.
The only real reason to read this blog it to read the ramblings of someone called "Observer". It is hard to imagine that anyone is that far out. It has to be a put on just for entertainment purposes or they are on some really good drugs.
Tell me "Observer", how did the negotiations go yesterday? Did the Union break the backs of those rich and greedy Castlewood members? Didn't think so, they have the staying power that the union employees don't have. Have to remember one thing, Castlewood has the jobs that the people want, the employees have nothing that Castlewood wants. So the big loser is, you got it, the employees until they get the union to let them vote on a contract.
the question was!! is there a way to force a vote to help the real c.c.c workers get back to work! most of us like our jobs and the members. don't need to see more finger pointing! need to find answers!
why can't we vote. Observer can you help us just vote
ccc worker....the answer is fire the Union...take control of your own lives and be the master of your own destiny. Thats the whole idea of being an American...at least it used to be.
I have personally scheduled 3 big work events at CCC. I have taken them away from other union run establishments.
I will continue to point ALL events, customer meetings and other larger events to CCC now that it is NON UNION!
still no answer to the question! tried to get rid of the union didn"t work, why they want to keep it i dont know! won't do to dwell on that. non productive, been in talks almost two years and still not one vote, how much more time do they want to have.
p.s hal the union is still there! but keep bring events to the club the people there didn't do anything wrong and it is a great place to be.
I am really getting a gut full of people coming to the United States, mostly illegally, and then demanding their "rights". The riots going on in Arizona are the latest incidents.
Castlewood should simply fire the employees. In this economy, they would have no trouble hiring new ones.
Hey, Jeb, why don't you do a story an investigative story about how many of these workers are illegal aliens? Then you can do a story about Castlewood's side of the story, to balance all the coverage you have given to the Union and the lefty loon City Council wading in where they don't belong.
What does "a gut full of people coming to the United States, mostly illegally" have to do with the CCC workers? Are you implying they are illegal just because they are mostly Hispanics? Is that your "reasonable suspicion"?
Dear Lets Fire "Fire'm All",
Let's do a test. You call ICE up an beg them to come check it out.
BTW, are you a left-wing loon that wants as many illegals as possible because 80% of them vote in favor of your socialist agenda?
We KNOW that there are illegal workers and can prove it, but for some reason we had to take them back after we fired them. That is also why some employees cannot collect unemployment while they are locked out, they are illegal.
But you are right, that is getting off point. The union should just go away and let the employees that want to come back to work come back. Those that don't like the management team or the members can go work somewhere else. That is what makes America such a great place, you have the freedom to make choices and when you make a bad one you have to live with it. The bad choice is the employees didn't vote the union out when they had the chance. Now live with it!
There is so much misinformation, misleading information, and outright bias in the P.W. articles on this whole contract negotiating issue. Please relegate this kind of stuff to the opinion page. It is not news. If you are so pro-worker, why does the P.W. fail to mention that the Union has failed to allow its members to vote on contracts that Castlewood has put out there. This is the reason for the lockout in the first place. For many months before the lockout, Castlewood had made contract offers that the local workers wanted to vote on. However Ms. Huber in Oakland would not allow the vote. Castlewood did not wish to continue without a contract and wished to reduce their share of escalating medical insurance expenses. Hence the lockout.
Tell you what...why don't you call ICE and ask them to come check out your work place. While you're at it, call Homeland to check you out because you sound like an anti-government extremist/fundamentalist
Seems like "Observer" has quieted a bit....cant stand the heat! I heard one chant "we have the power"....HURRAH! GO TO THE SHOWER!!!!
To those upset that the union will not let it's members vote on the CCC proposal - you should also know that CCC has not shared its proposals with its membership or let its members vote on the lockout or on the Union proposal. This is a battle between the leaderships. Get it?
Remember at CCC you voted for those men on the board of directors to be your voice. Guess you should have thought a little longer about who you voted for...
Nobody has been fired from Castlewood country club. You are the ones that are asking the workers to stop picketing. Why? you can not stand a little bit of heat? It is a shame because there is more of the heat coming and you are going to burn there like in hell.
As for Miss Carranza's picture in the article she was not asked to appear on it and I may add that she is the one person that has have the guts to stand in front of the GM and tell the truth to his face and/ or the board of directors.
She was not fired because of bad job performance, if that was the case do you think the management would have accepted her back to work??
There is this thing called "just cause" Have anyone heard about that?
Educate yourselves in this matter before airing out your opinions PLEASE!!!!
There are only a couple of employees that wanted to vote on a unfair contract. The vast majority of the employees want a fair contract.
As for Lets Fire "Fire'm All"
Poor Creature xenophobic and I say poor because you will see them back. Have you ever been in school? Who owned California before this country stoled this land? Indians. Are you an Indian? May I know to what reservation do you belong so you feel that only you have the right to live here? and even to do any kind of action one needs guts and I really doubt that you know where to find them. Am I right? Don't be ashamed; its ok because things happen. HURRAH for your guts if you find them.
You again are not telling the truth, Castlewood has put out written communication to the members explaining the offer to the union. You are just mad because you are in the minority in your support of the Union. The members voted for a Board of Directors who has the authority to act in the best interest of the club. Within in the Board is the Executive Committee and they are the ONLY members who are authorized to bargain a contract for the club with the Union. Don't believe me; look in the clubs by-laws. You want to help negotiate the contract instead of letting the Board do their job, there cannot be 800 people trying to negotiate a contract, it would never get done. You have become a hindrance to the process.
Indians? Do you mean those from India? What if I told you, Yes, I am indeed an Indian. LOL!
Yes you are right; if you are an Indian it means that you are from India. I just used that term so this xenophobic person could understand what I was talking about. Indeed my friend; the word is Native Americans. Peace
Dear Members Unite: The only way for you to know the truth is to talk with both parties; something that I have done already. I really suggest you try to contact both parties and find out the truth. Then you can say whatever you want.
You have no idea who I have talked to.
I'm just hanging out on this blog so I can be entertained by your rambling comments. When is the union going back to negoiate?
As a former union member, I can tell you that unions are out of step with the times. There was a time that they were a good thing for the workers. A time when there were no state or federal labor laws. No overtime laws. No workers compensation insurance etc. Now all the states and the federal govt. have many laws that protect workers. What have the unions done lately? They have nearly killed the manufacturing of automobiles in the U.S. Look right down the road at NUMI. Thousands of people (in and outside the plant) out of work due to the outrageously high cost of union labor. Toyota is not going to stop producing the cars that were being made in the NUMI plant. They are just going to make them in a plant with lower labor costs. Probably outside the U.S. Unions have driven most manufacturing jobs to other countries that do not have union workers.
Unions have made it almost impossible to for a "union shop" to compete with non union competitors. The unions have done little to level the playing field. Rather than organize the competition, or at least keep the labor costs down so that a unionized business can compete in the largely non union marketplace, they continue to suck the life out of a business until it is dead. Much like a greedy parasite. Then they walk away and say the company was poorly managed!!! When are the unions going to take responsibility for their selfish actions. Castlewood is in a position of being the only Country Club in the East Bay Area that is unionized. Also there are no other restaurants in Pleasanton, Dublin, or Livermore that are unionized. This makes it very hard for them to compete. The additional money spent to support the union benefits has to come from somewhere. It must come from other areas of the operation. For example; buying a lower quality food, less service than other clubs in the area, less money available for capital improvements to the clubs assets.It also means higher costs for outside events (banquets and golf tournaments) that makes the club un competitive with Blackhawk, Crow Canyon, Ruby Hills etc. This has got to stop. The members of Castlewood have paid the price for this union far too long. I hope they never give up the fight.
If you already talked about it with your so called important people you should know it, but you don't even know how to lie. About the entertainment thing, I really feel sorry for you. Because of your lack of knowledge on this topic, it should be educational for you, but what can be expected from a rich boy that mommy and daddy gave everything. I hope you are having fun then.
I really hope that Castlewood never give up the fight too. I would love to see all those filthy rich burning their own property. That won't happen, they already know that the Union already won this fight, they just want to make it look like nothing is happening. HURRAH for the Unions. The Existence of the Unions is justfied by the existence of arrongant employers like this place.
Ex former Union Member:
Is that you Marek? Nice to hear about you.
You didn't say what happened at the negoiations yesterday. Did you bring the big bad rich people to their knees? By reading the article it sounds like Castlewood is attacking and the Union is in full retreat. Hope the union gave you enough money to buy a nice dinner tonight.
Hey CCC member....you are full of crap! The reason we have a BOD is so that the membership doesnt have to get involved with this kind of thing. We pay to have a place to go to relax ... and as a result people get hired and have a place to work. The fact is, that the union is demanding more than what is the "going rate" for their services. The economy is driven by those that pay for goods and services and those that are willing to provide them...go to Cuba, Venezuela or Russia if you dont like it...unfortunately we are moving in that direction too.
As a member, I have never received written communication explaining the full offer to the Union. What I have received are general updates on the status of the negotiations with very limited facts in the form of emails. Most of what I know about the negotiations came from the PW and Union letters.
Your posting also confirms what ccc member from RosePointe stated, that the negotiations are between the leadership. Seems like you are in agreement.
You accuse this member of being a hindrance to the process while at the same time explaining why they are not and cannot be part of the process.
Actually, you are the one who sounds mad.
Hey fred. Watch your mouth. Check the green book regarding conduct unbecoming of a Castlewood member. How can we ALL be part of Members Unite if you are going to talk this way. If you really are a member??
No, I'm not mad because the BOD is doing what they think is best for the club and I happen to agree with their vision, along with the vast majority of the members. You do admit that you have received updates from the BOD, you just want more information. In order to give you FULL disclosure it would mean releasing the entire contract offer which is not the reasonable or prudent thing to do. If wish additional information the GM has an open door policy for all members, all you have to do is stop by and ask your questions.
We all know who CCC Member rosepoint is and if this were a war they would try him for aiding and abetting the enemy.
Id like to extend my apology to the Castlewood employees - you deserve better than this and believe me you are missed. As much as the replacement workers are trying, they can't replace your dedication and work ethic.
Unfortunately, as you can read in the postings, most of the membership has little time or patience for your plight. If you haven't figured it out by now, it's all about them. They don't spend one second of one minute of one hour of one day of the past two months worrying about what this lockout means to you or your family. Bottom line, it's not in their DNA. They need something to rally against and why not make it the UNION. It's such an easy target.
There will be more money spent on the Valley Golf Course improvement plan than what it would cost to reach a health care sharing plan that is fair and equitable. That should speak volumes about priorities.
You're dealing with people that enjoy picking on the little guy - it makes them feel important. As I said when I started this diatribe, you deserve better and I'm one long term member that misses you and can't wait for your return.
Unions breed mediocrity in work performance by defending the incompetent and discouraging those with a better work ethic.
Union leaders do not know how to negotiate, but only know how to dictate. They are bullies, thugs, and represent a legal form of extortion.
Union negotiators are untruthful with those they represent.
Unions, and their puppets in Sacramento, have helped ruin California.
The turmoil at CCC is only the beginning -- The union is using this small group of workers as cannon fodder, so they can leverage any hard won concessions (gained at the CCC locked out worker's expense) for the upcoming contract negotiations with the larger hotels and restaurants. This is how union negotiations work!!! The union simply cannot allow the CCC employees to vote for the current package -- afraid that they will accept it and ruin their bargaining position in upcoming contract negotiations with others.
The CCC union employees should accept the fact that they're being used as pawns by their union, accept the wage offer and return to work; or find another job with better wages and benefits. It'll be Christmas before you know it, and your union business agents will not have missed a single paycheck in the meantime.
Thank you Michael for your kind words.
It is sad to see the agressiveness many of the people who have written some of this blogs are carrying within themselves.
To make the workers a target for all their frustrations and insecurities is bad, to do it anonimously is even worse.
This is the first time that I have entered this blog and I have to admit, it is scary, I can not decide who is worse: CCC, for locking out their employees with no remorse at all for those who loyally have been working there for years and years? Or those who are quickly willing to point fingers without knowing all the facts, these I cannot say who they are, for they are hiding behind a made up name and probably lying about their true place of residence.
This struggle has have many consequences that I am sure neither side thought about, so, who are we (people that do not belong to either party) to have a say on it?
Everyone, Get Real, this country has a constitution, Let the workers fight for their rights and choose who will represents them, and let the club members decide whatever is good for them, after all they are the owners and ultimately the ones that are in touch with the workers in a daily basis, aren't they?
I understand everyone has different opinions but if we look from a distance the workers here are the ones that are left with the short end of the stick.
CCC was good to have provide for their workers all this time.
The Union is great for providing them with help that I believe no one else would offer in this time of need.
Finally even greater are those members who are trying to support the workers even if this mean exposing themselves to the harsh comments of people with little or no respect for those who are trying to resolve this situation instead of adding unsolicited grief.
Try using your time to better your personal lives instead of triyng so hard at ruining the lives of many others.
I had the opportunity to visit the Club premises in the past few days and I noticed the absence of the locked out employees, your floors are really dirty and there is dust everywhere, How much are you paying your temp workers?
I don't remember seeing the Club this dirty before, there are spider webs all over the place not to mention the piles of trash sitting beside the garbage container in the back of the valley house!!
This makes me wonder, how clean is your Kitchen? Are the toilets being sanitized?
In great contrast look at the picket areas....they are very clean!
You should ponder on your decision about the lockout and the image you are projecting to your existing and prospective members.
Perhaps you should try paying union rate salaries to your temps, maybe then they will perform better and not just deliver lots of smiles to you.
The best post on this trail is by SteveP, a resident of the Parkside neighborhood, on Apr 27, 2010 at 8:55 am:
Drop any employer based health insurance, dump the union and get back to work.
Employee service unions: [Web Link]
You are very wrong in your statements. Both clubhouses are as clean as they have ever been in the past and the efforts of the replacement workers should be credited. If the union truly wanted to represent the locked out CCC workers, then they would at least let them vote on the CCC proposal. The union leadership is using the CCC workforce as sacrificial lambs for other union negotiations. I only recognize a few of the regular picketers. Why is it always the same 5-7 faces? Where are the other 60 workers? They don't support the picketing. That is a fact that speaks for itself.
If you visted the club in the past few days it must have been on Tuesday when there was a negoiation session taking place. That makes me assume that you are either a locked out employee or a union representive, therefore the false remarks about how clean the club is. The place has never been cleaner. The temps are making the exact same salaries as the locked out workers but are preforming at a much higher level than the union staff.
Thank you for making my point stronger.
Your answer is a clear statement that you are losing members AND visitors or anyone interested in becoming a member, have you had no vistors besides whoever was there on Tuesday?
Take a walk trough your premises and really inspect them, you will be very disappointed.
As per the negotiations, keep filling the lawer's pockets he is enjoying it.
Poor soul, those locked out employees are indeed needed, along with new management
Castlewood was losing members BEFORE the union was locked out. That is because people can't afford it anymore. Just like the union members, Castlewood members are losing their jobs and healthcare and can't keep up their memberships. That is one of the reasons the club is trying to cut costs. Sorry, but bad times roll downhill.
Observer: Why do you call the members "filthy rich"?
Just a question - if a union member wanted to just go back to work, would they be able to just quit the union and do so?
Do you even have an idea how that place works? All the comments from members that go to the club are negatives about the service. You seem to be the only one enjoying it. About having the same people working there all the time, they work for an agency, they don't work for the club, and they have to be rotated. The club don't pay them; the agency does. Its $12.50 plus at least 6 or 7 dollars to agency per employee. It cost about $18.50 an hour. You are saving a lot money.HURRAH It is very expensive for that place to keep employees from agencies. You probably are one of the managers and want to keep lying to members. The club has to pay at least $18.50 an hour per employee. HURRAH
HURRAH for "Members Unite" and all his lies. HURRAH
It is really a shame how all this naive and arrogant people think. Do you really thing that the Union is about to leave just because the Club think that they can win when in fact they are already losing this battle? Are all of you enjoying the nice music that you get everyday? Better do because the way things are happening you are going to start enjoying it. HURRAH
I honestly give you credit to all members that do not support the Union, how in the hell can you stand all that, you sound very agressive here but don't say it here, act and end the lock out now.
The sooner the better for you because the Union is not about to leave. HURRAH
To business woman:
Filthy rich don't apply to everybody. It is not good or acceptable to classify or catalog people by its race, religion, sex, social status, etc,,,,,. If you know what the word means, just check how xenophobic, arrogant, and uncompassionate some people in this blog sound. Please, if this shirt fits you; feel free to wear it. HURRAH for those who enjoy using it. HURRAH
Do you even have an idea how that place works? All the comments from members that go to the club are negatives about the service. You seem to be the only one enjoying it. About having the same people working there all the time, they work for an agency, they don't work for the club, and they have to be rotated. The club don't pay them; the agency does. Its $12.50 plus at least 6 or 7 dollars to agency per employee. It cost about $18.50 an hour. You are saving a lot money.HURRAH It is very expensive for that place to keep employees from agencies. You probably are one of the managers and want to keep lying to members. The club has to pay at least $18.50 an hour per employee. HURRAH For the board of directors or should I say board of destroyers? Because they are about to sink Castlewood. HURRAH
HURRAH for the BOARD OF DESTROYERS. HURRAH
Observer is a shill for the union. Nobody could be that stupid in their comments -- it's the only explanation.
Observer are you a c.c.c worker? or are you just a angry person who has a problem with people that have money. if you need a hand out dont hide behind the union just ask! some of us might fill sorry for you and just give you some, than you can stop calling people names and go back to work!
Arroyo, you're right "Observer" has to be a union shill but you have to agree the entertainment value of "Observers" ramblings is priceless. :-)
I am a union shill but that doesn't make me wrong. HURRAH
Let me guess, the HURRAH comes from Observer who I believe is also the president of the Union. Am I right, Observer?
The truth is not bad but it hurts, am I right? You only show how frustrated you are with all the nice music that you are getting everyday. Do you want me to chant a little bit too?
The Union has stated; Castlewood is frustrated
About my rambling if it is priceless; let me see. What could I say about how your ignorance, arrogance and how naive you are; it entertain many people too. You haven't answer one single comment that I have made, why? Don't you have arguments or the mouse ate your tongue? I have more fun seen that the only way you can answer is trying to offend, and I say trying because even that; you do it wrong. HURRAH for your inteligence and creative. Poor creature. HURRAH
"mouse ate your tongue?" You are kidding me right!!
You can't debate someone that doesn't have the mental capacity to debate. HURRAH
It is pretty clear that Observer has very little mental capacity. HURRAH
You just made my point. What can I say? HURRAH
Not even one single argument; poor souls. HURRAH
I heard that last Friday you have a nice BBQ and also that some music too. Did you enjoy it? Just answer it; is that difficult?
By the way:
POOR CASTLEWOOD IS FRUSTRATED; THE UNION HAS STATED. HURRAH
The best part is that you think that insulting is debating. Who is retarded? To be honest; I envy you. Why you can have beautiful music everyday and nobody else can? I really envy you because I know that you won't stop listen it; what can I say? HURRAH
As a member of CCC I would like a resolution to this lockout. However, I would also like the union to understand fair market value for their services. Our board has done their homework and presented a fair offer. Union management won't even let the members cast a vote. Until the time that occurs, there really isn't any negotiations. Observer - yes FHS canceled their Prom and it did cost us some money. However, as usual, we took the high road and refunded all their money and didn't charge the contractual cancellation fee. We understand. The funny thing is, FHS doesn't see the need to withdraw their golf team from playing their practice rounds and home league matches at our course. Must be because we don't charge them a dime to use our facility. That has me laughing because they obviously set a monetary limit on their support of the union. As usual, it's all about the money. I am, however, happy they don't punish the kids and we will continue to welcome them.
This lockout will end one day. I only hope the damage the union is causing by their mean-spirited chants and disruptions can be forgiven by our membership. I have no problem with the union members standing up for what they believe and the employment package they feel they deserve. We are not "Rich and rude". We simply feel we can't and won't overpay for services. The union feels differently. Look at our offer. Cast a vote, either yes or no. Make a counter offer. Or, find a better job elsewhere where they pay the rates and benefits you feel you deserve. I think you will be hard pressed to find something better in today's market. If you can, then bring it to our BOD and use it in a civil negotiation process. Your tactics are the cause of what little support you have remaining within the CCC membership. So, let's get on with serious negotiations and get everyone back to work as this only hurts everyone.
This has been going on too long. Offer a final contact and say take it or leave it. The union representative won't let the workers vote. Oakland School District just enforced a contract. It's time for Castlewood to do the same. If the same workers can find better pay and benefits then they should take that job. In the meantime, stop calling people rich and rude. And Observer - using the term "retarded" is very derogative and shows how inconsiderate you are.
Unite Here 2850 is busy with Homewood Suites in Oakland.
To Observor of Dublin
Your union dribble has no value and is not constructive in these times of negotiations. First off, try and make sense of your writing, it is somewhat of a challenge. At first it was a little humorous but now it has lost any value from the few of us that have a sense of humor. Look up a quote from Chris Farley down by the river and follow his instructions. You and your drum, noise making union buddies are digging one deep hole and believe me the people that did have compassion are losing it quickly.
To Observer of Dublin Here's something for you to look into! Mayacama, a private golf club located in the hills of Santa Rosa is hiring! Currently they have the following job openings:
Houseman - 35 Hours
Housekeeper - 30-35 Hours (Seasonal)
Massage Therapist - On Call
Men's Locker Room Attendant -20- 24 Hours
Now you can get away from the rich, rude people of C.C.C. and move to the country.
If they are to rich and rude at that country club you can work at a winery doing what you can there!
That's what I'm talking about; now you are debating. Thank you good lord that this people can think now. HURRAH
What I can't understand is that you say that I'm not considerate. I say this because I'm making statements that attack a privileged class but when someone has been writing xenophobic comments to people that for circumstances in life have not been that lucky; you don't mention that. It is not only wrong, it is terrible, and you cannot even notice it. If you think that what I'm saying is out of the line you should check the other comments that are racists and make fun of the situation that underprivileged people (speaking monetary) is suffering.
I have never mentioned that because someone is rich; that person has to be bad. The same way that I condemn how mean and uncompassionate people think; I can tell all of you that I really feel sorry that everybody has to pay the price of the decisions that the board of directors had taken. Many people don't deserve this situation; employees and members.
The funniest part is these people if you can call them people are mad because all the noise that the picketing is causing but nobody is worried that there are kids that don't have any food on the table right now and some other people are about to lose their houses. If you think that everybody has to sell their soul to the devil AKA Castlewood accepting an unfair contract, not everybody is like you; rich people that you already forgot what is good and what is wrong.
Like someone mentioned before money in the hand of dumb people is poison and you got infected pretty bad. I really feel pity for you; l you deserve. HURRAH for this privileged class and all the noise that is about to come. I won't lie to you; I'm glad about that because you deserve it. HURRAH
HURRAH for all that is about to come to you; rich people. HURRAH
Losing compassion? I am fairly certain it is already lost! I am at the point where I don't care how long this goes on as long as we never let the union back into our club. The tactics and nonsense this union uses is a prime example of why unions have such a bad reputation. It isn't about fair and reasonable wages and benefits with them. They have a sense of entitlement to higher wages and benefits. They need to get a clue about market value and the fact unions are putting companies out of business. There have been many bay area companies close due to unreasonable union demands which causes businesses to try and survive with unfair disadvantages. Do they really care about the company which provides them the job in the first place? This isn't 1920 and the union has served it's usefulness. The state and federal employment laws provide plenty of protection for employees. There is no need for the unions any more. We should keep our resolve and have employees who want to work at the club at fair wages and benefits. Let's get rid of the union nonsense.
No, you cannot lose something that never had in the first place so it is going to be very difficult for you to understand if not impossible. The existence of the Unions are justified by arrogant employers like Castlewood or should I say losserwood. Rich people that think that can do whatever they want; so naive. The board of directors didn't ask for your opinion to do the lock out and certainly when a pack of losers act in certain way; they will do the same every single time that an issue pops out. If the lock out ends; they won't ask for your opinion either. HURRAH for you board of directors and its ineptitude because you won't get rid of the Union you like it or not. HURRAH
The Union is not going anywhere so you are going to deal with it from now on. HURRAH for Castlewood and its Oligarchy. (a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few ). HURRAH. Do you think that they care about your opinion? If you believe it, I don't know if I should feel pity about you or feel glad because you are about to learn a lesson; my naive friend. HURRAH for you.
The difference between Caslewood and the Union is that the employees won't vote for an unfair contract; nobody wants to vote for it except for a few bad apples. Some bad apples that they should be described as cowards with a pathetic attitude because selling their soul to the devil won't fix anything. People that is not willing to fight or to stand for something; there is no word to describe them. On the contrary Castlewood and its Plutocracy (rule by the wealthy, or power provided by wealth) keep lying to the general members so they don't have a clue of what is going on in their own backyard two months later. HURRAH for your Plutocracy. HURRAH
"Some bad apples that they should be described as cowards with a pathetic attitude because selling their soul to the devil won't fix anything."
So members of your union are insulted by you if they simply want to go back to work and feed their family? They are the victims who are really screwed by the union. I think your insults toward them are unwarranted.
First of all, I don't belong to the Union and nobody is screwed by them. When they voted no to the Union; they showed why I mentioned that name. They voted no to healthcare insurance for families. How do call that? If for you that doesn't mean anything; then probably the shirt fits you too. The truth is not bad but it hurts so don't feel bad if if bothers you. If you are a member the first thing that you should do is to find out why your club is lying to you and even more important how can you believe everything. If you are a worker you should know that what I said is true; and last but no less if you belong to the Union you should adopt a stronger position to finish to this situation once and for all.
The truth is not bad but it hurts; not to many people can handle it. HURRAH for those who can deal with it.
Observer, How would you know employees won't vote for an unfair contract?
they've never gotten a chance to vote on any contract!
because you're beloved union leader won't let them, so who's lying now?
If you're not a part of the union why are you even in this?
don't stick you nose where it doesn,t belong!
i am a worker of C.C.C. and like it there and respect the members, they who are very caring, I also belong to the union but after watching what there doing, can,t see how anyone would back them.
Two men are walking in the woods and they come across a big black bear. Man 1 says let's run for safty, man 2 says we can't outrun a bear. No says man 1 but I can out run you.
Unite Here i'm sure you are big and powerful with lots of political influence, community support and endless pots of money, etc. So Castlewood can not our run you, but I think Castlewood Country Club can out last Francisca, Carlos, Gabriel and the other 6 workers that support you on the line. Good luck winning this war with those troops at the frontline.
I think this Friday is "pay day" at Castlewood Country Club, oh that's right you don't work there anymore.
Observer, oh powerful one, the truth sayer of all, the leader of the disenfranchised.
You are a BIG fat liar and a blowhard who thinks anyone that has even a little success in their lives is required to "spread their wealth" with those too lazy to better themselves. Get over it.
Master, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, that has to be the best reply I've read for Observer
it's to bad he or she can't get it through their head they need to take a hike!
The best part is that these filthy rich people already forgot what was the topic here. It is not me but I don't blame them; since I'm saying the truth it is hurting; am I right? Poor souls. I really hope that you keep enjoy the music everyday and by the way: Happy Mother's Day if you know what I mean. I really going to enjoy it. We can all make comments about your holiday next Monday. I envy you guys; only Losserwood is going to have all the fun. HURRAH for your holiday and all that is about to come. HURRAH
Thanks Good Lord for trying to help these creatures to think again; it is getting boring to see that these poor souls say an insult (MASTER, although to be honest with you I'll call you LOSER) and another LOSER (Rich people that already forgot what is important in life) think that it is the best reply that someone has ever said to me. I feel pity for you. HURRAH for your best reply. HURRAH
Castlewood is not going anywhere so you are going to deal with it from now on. HURRAH for the Union and its Oligarchy. (a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few ). HURRAH. Do you think that they care about your opinion? If you believe it, I don't know if I should feel pity about you or feel glad because you are about to learn a lesson; my naive friend. HURRAH for you.
P.S. What do you have against Obamacare?
Observer, why don't you answer any of these questions, all you do is call people names and write HURRAH! these are fairly simple questions a smart person shouldn't have any trouble with!
start with are you a c.c.c. worker?
If you're not a part of the union why are you even in this?
how would you know employees won't vote for an unfair contract?
they've never gotten a chance to vote on any contract!
Observer is just a pot stirrer and his/her opinions mean nothing at all. They are, however, entertaining. From the misguided, unintelligible, rambling diatribes he or she posts, I can only assume they are a naive person. I do wish he/she could at least learn to spell, as well as use at least basic english grammar. It would really make it much easier to read and understand the ramblings. I wonder if we will ever hear from him/her again once the union tumbles. I think not.
As day 70 turns into day 71, how is that protest going? Did the city council resolution-thing help?
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