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Hundreds gather for 'TEA Party' on tax day

Original post made on Apr 15, 2009

As people rushed to put their tax filings in the mail by today's deadline at the post office on Black Avenue, hundreds of people were protesting increased taxes across the street at one of several Bay Area "TEA parties." The event is scheduled to go on until 6 this evening.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 3:21 PM

Comments (87)

Posted by Dan, a resident of Birdland
on Apr 15, 2009 at 3:55 pm

Gee, what a diverse group of middle aged people.....yeah right. It's nice to see that self described "hard working" Republicans took the day off. It's nice to see that they pulled their kids out of school and used them as props to advance their right-wing agenda (see the 3rd picture). It's nice to see all the anti-Obama signs when these same tea baggers stood silent when their hero GW Bush ran up the debt over the last 8 years. How low can you go? This event is a total embarrassment to Pleasanton.

Predictably, the Tea Bagger event was also used to promote the anti-parcel tax group. You can always count on Republicans to cheap out when it comes to schools, nothing new.


Posted by Don, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Apr 15, 2009 at 4:04 pm

Dan wrote:

"It's nice to see that they pulled their kids out of school and used them as props to advance their right-wing agenda (see the 3rd picture)"

Must not have any kids, eh Dan? The kids weren't pulled out of school because this week is Spring Break.


Posted by Johnny, a resident of Del Prado
on Apr 15, 2009 at 4:06 pm

I wonder if this would have been done under the Bush administration when taxes were higher for the middle class? Poor Ron Paul, you were co-opted by Fox news. There seems to be a lot of hate at these rallies, though not at the P-town one. Throughout the country there are hundreds, not thousands at each rally. They have President Obama in a Hitler uniform, and are waving NAZI flags. What great patriots. Do your patriotic duty and pay your taxes and if you do not like your elected officials, vote them out of office in 2010.


Posted by Dan, a resident of Birdland
on Apr 15, 2009 at 4:06 pm

Tea Party = Boohoo! We can't get over the fact that Obama won in November!!! Lets throw a tantrum in the park.

Judging by the photos, this looks like just about the least diverse group of people I have ever seen....WHAT A SHOCKER!!!!


Posted by beth, a resident of Foothill Knolls
on Apr 15, 2009 at 4:25 pm

What's with the sombreros?


Posted by Dan, a resident of Birdland
on Apr 15, 2009 at 4:36 pm

It's nice to see the irony of anti-tax Republicans protesting in a park paid for with public tax money.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Apperson Ridge
on Apr 15, 2009 at 4:53 pm

What's with not accepting a gift of love in the form of a free baby blanket?

...member? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?


Posted by Jane, a resident of Amador Estates
on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:01 pm

Had to mail my taxes - looked to me that a Clan rally was being held in the middle of Santa Rita Rd, starving for attention. Robes and hoods were the only things missing.


Posted by LMS, a resident of San Ramon
on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:56 pm

Dan, some of us were protesting during the Bush administration as well. You people need to wake up. Your government is bought and paid for by Wall Street, and Obama is no different than Bush when it comes to irresponsible bailouts. Trillions of dollars in private sector liabilities are being transferred on to the public balance sheet. These toxic assets were created by fraud, greed and extreme leverage. There should be criminal prosecutions of the guilty parties and insolvent banks should be placed into receivership. This is already required by federal law - which is being IGNORED.

I can't believe people are commenting on the racial composition of the protest as if that matters at all. FOCUS ON THE ISSUE AT HAND. THE BAILOUTS ARE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AND IMMORAL. BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES ARE TO BLAME. PLEASE DROP THIS PARTISAN BICKERING AND WAKE UP!!


Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:57 pm

I saw the rally while driving by and even took pictures. There were not that many people there, but they had FOX news reporters and they were loud.

While I do not agree with things Obama is doing even though I voted for him, I am not sure that these folks have the right message in mind.


Posted by Joe, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:59 pm

Seems like all the comments here are hate and anger coming from the liberal left. I didn't know this was a political rally attended by "middle aged ...hard working Republicans", I thought it was a tax protest. Guess I was duped by the right.
Ya, that was a clan rally, Jane, you gotta get out of the Pleasnaton box and take Dan with you. Don't hate, player.


Posted by Alex, a resident of Mission Park
on Apr 15, 2009 at 6:09 pm

I am a lifelong registered Democrat but I am concerned about the increase in irresponsible spending that has lead to out of control taxation. I was there all day it was an exciting energy. There had to be nearly 1500 people there at any given time, probably 5000 over the course of the day.


Posted by Party goer, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 15, 2009 at 6:43 pm

I went to the Tea Party because I wanted to see what it was about. I talked to a number of the people there. A lot of the people I spoke with are just very concerned about taxes and irresponsible government spending. One elderly couple told me that besides paying state and federal taxes where they live, they've voted for bonds to improve the hospitals and schools. But they are being taxed so much, it's hard for them to make ends meet.
Others told me that they object to the way the banking executives walked away from a mess they created with 6 figure paychecks.
Another person told me even though their tea parties are intended to be a family friendly peaceful event, some people spread the rumor that there will be violence and police protection is needed.

I didn't agree with everyone I spoke with, but I never felt as if I was in any danger. Mostly, people just said that they hoped I'd read the information they were distributing and think about what they said.
I probably spoke to at least 30 different people representing a lot of different organizations, and they were all very nice to me even when I told them I voted for and support the president.
One person said that people have the right to assemble and present their viewpoints. I can and do agree with that.
It's not a democracy if you deny freedom of speech to those who disagree with you.
Dan, were you actually at the event?






Posted by Steve, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Apr 15, 2009 at 7:47 pm

It looks like a fantastic event and I'm glad to see so many people turned out for it. I like the fact that people of all political viewpoints could participate. This would not be the case at a moveon.org event or other radical left wing events.


Posted by Kiko, a resident of Val Vista
on Apr 15, 2009 at 8:49 pm

Dan saw the photos so he didn't have to be there to make an accurate judgement of what was going on and Jane was at the Post Office so she got a real good look at the clan rally, why do you people even bother. You're supposed to be so liberal that you would deny other citizens freedom of expression or freedom of assembly.
I was there and it seemed to me that everyone was equally upset with BUSH and the bailouts as they were with OBAMA and the bailouts. ITS ABOUT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY at all government levels, not control of Congress or the White House.
By the way,Dan, I got over Obama the day after the election and I support him although I don't agree with him. You can't say the same for the Dems and Bush, they whined about Gore and the chads for years.


Posted by still laughing, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 15, 2009 at 8:50 pm

I saw a sea of white - why of course, it's a bunch of Republicans protesting....now that they are in the minority they protest - hit the parks and really whoop it up...got to protect their own interests - making money and keeping it all for thyself - good to see their brain washed kids joining them....


Posted by continues to laugh, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 15, 2009 at 8:51 pm

right Kiko, you were all out protesting Bush policies - I recall that fondly...and what dream state did you just awaken from?


Posted by got to stop laughing, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 15, 2009 at 8:54 pm

Steve Moveon.org loves you - come join us! Radicals Unite - just what is a radical Steve? takes one to know one....since you right wingers love to call us lefties radicals you must know something intimately about your own dysfunctional radicalness - rock on brother


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Castlewood
on Apr 15, 2009 at 8:56 pm

Please send you photos of the teabaggers to the FBI. I hear that they plan to check out many of the extremists right wingers that were present. I hear that they are equally as dangerous as extremist Muslim terrorists? Sad...


Posted by Correction, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 15, 2009 at 8:57 pm

Correction: your; extremist.


Posted by Kiko, a resident of Val Vista
on Apr 15, 2009 at 9:07 pm

continue to laugh
I did protest the policies of the Bush administration, the Clinton administration, the Bush administration, etc. etc. etc. I was so against GW that I switched to the Democratic Party after being a lifelong Republican.
Oh, and I just didn't awaken from a "dream state"...I just retired from the Navy after 38 years protecting everyone's right to say and print freely. Hope you have nice dreams.


Posted by Abe, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 15, 2009 at 10:06 pm

Red state-blue state,red court-blue court, red house-blue house,red family-blue family. This thread mirrors the great American divide and a "house divided against itself", well you all know the answer to that one.


Posted by Sandy, a resident of Carriage Gardens
on Apr 15, 2009 at 10:08 pm

What a great group of folks at the protest today! I met Democrats, Republicans & Independents while I was there. All of them think (as well as me) think the government is *OUT* of control with spending.


Posted by Meera, a resident of California Reflections
on Apr 15, 2009 at 10:09 pm

Stopped by on my way to work. Had to have been at least 2000 people there.


Posted by Henry, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Apr 15, 2009 at 10:10 pm

This was an experience I wanted my kids to be a part of. And that is simply a FREEDOM to express in a peaceful manner anything we disagree with about our government.
This administration's spending is going to run our Country's debt beyond what YOU and ME will be able to repay. So who do you think will be paying for it? THIS SPENDING MUST STOP. How will we Bail Out our next generations?


Posted by over here, a resident of Foothill High School
on Apr 15, 2009 at 11:25 pm

I don't live in Ptown anymore, and where I'm stationed (when I'm home) no one really cares about what the government does. Reading the article, it's great to see things like this. Judging by the photos alone, it looks like a GOP rally so thankfully those who were actually there are providing good insight. Personal partisan attacks are useless; please use your time and energy to do something besides complain and our country will be just fine.


Posted by Ghetto Resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:02 am

I was not able to attend the rally because I had to work and I am thankful that I have a job, even though I have taken a cut in pay.

I did find an interesting comment by *still laughing* "got to protect their own interests - making money and keeping it all for thyself"....

if they are making the money on their own, why wouldn't they keep it? They earned it, they keep it, this is what is wrong with our country today - spread the wealth. NO - get off your bum and work for the things you want. I am tired of paying taxes to support lazy people who do not want to work, they want me to work to pay for their medical, their home, their childrens education. Sorry, have my own and I am trying to take care of them! I understand that there are certain circumstances when people need a hand to get back on their feet, but lifers on welfare have got to STOP!! Just my opinion.


Posted by nospam1, a resident of Castlewood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:09 am

nospam1 is a registered user.

This tremendous TeaParty in Pleasanton and all across this country represented TRUE DEMOCRACY IN ACTION...that is from the "ground up" ... and not a "rent-a-mob" that are employed that promote more liberal causes.

BTW: Given that this event in Pleasanton was intended to be bi-partisan, our local Congressman Jerry McNerney was invited to speak. He refused. Boy, that's some representation to your constituency, Mr. McNerney.

If I recall, our esteemed Attorney General, Eric Holder, chastised American citizens for being COWARDS in not confronting real issues. Mr. McNerney...how are you NOT being COWARDLY when you refuse an opportunity to address so many bi-partisan constituents at one time?


Posted by Pam E, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:15 am

I find it intersting that the word "Hundreds" was used to express the number of poeople attending the event....It was catagorized as more like 2,000. I was there, and that was the number I estimated which was later confirmed by another media source.


Posted by Jim Coughlin, a resident of Birdland
on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:15 am

If you want a true TAX REVOLT (and not a bash the democrats/obama rallY) then what you do is you write and/or elect Congressional Representatives to REPEAL the 16th Amendment to the Constitution.

The 16th Amendment - ratified in 1913 - gives Congress the right to tax any source of income without remuneration to the individual states.

This constitutional amendment established the IRS and began taxation at the federal level on all sources of income.

Prior to this amendment, income could only be taxed during time of war and only to pay for an army - and when the war ended the tax had to stop.

Other forms of taxation (property tax, etc) was based on state-by-state.

This would be real TAX revolt - not against a person, political ideology or group - but rather against the actual legistlation that began the problem.

There is also precedent for repealing an unwanted, unjust and/or unnecessary Constitutional Amendment - Prohibition was repealed in the 1930's.

Just my two cents (untaxed).


Posted by Salsa, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:43 am

I went to the rally with my daughter, who is 24, and had a wonderful time. She had the opportunity to hear various speakers and positions that she was not familiar with and able to make her own mind as to what she agreed with or disagreed. This was part of what America is about, FREE SPEECH! We are of hispanic decent and was thrilled to see many races represented there. We don't want Big Gov intruding in ur lives and the out of control power grabbing must stop! There must have been at least 2,000 or so when we went and did not see any Nazis.


Posted by dkl, a resident of Foothill High School
on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:04 am

Beth: The sombreros have a nice wide brim to hang teabags from.

Dan: The person who organized the event had to fork over $2000 to use the "public" park.


Posted by Coach, a resident of Birdland
on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:05 am

I drove by the Tea Party twice and stopped to visit once - about an hour between each - and there had to be over a thousand people there each time. Total for the day had to be in the thousands, not hundreds. I consider myself to be a moderate, independent voter. I heard no hatred, saw only respect. I wasn't trying to count ethnic groups, but certainly saw all three of Pleasanton's major groups represented - Asian, hispanic and caucasian.


Posted by Rae, a resident of Mohr Park
on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:08 am

"I heard no hatred, saw only respect."

I guess you weren't reading the signs, Coach.

I find it interesting that while some continue to characterize the gatherings yesterday as "bi-partisan" and not politically motivated, all the bashing going on was against Democrats in national office. The taxes we just paid were set under the last President, a Republican if you recall. Except for the top 5%, the rest of us wage earners are going to be seeing a tax savings under the new President. That top 5% will pay what they did before our last President gave them, and only them, a tax break.

So tell me again how the protest was "bi-partisan" and not driven by politics. . . .

It's too bad the focus in California wasn't on our state taxes, which continue to be some of the highest in the country, and have just increased again. Now there's something to protest.


Posted by continue to laugh, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:41 am

Kiko

the Navy doesn't protect my freedom - sorry man
and with protest there comes great responsibility - don't want to pay your fair share of taxes - then don't - we have a solution for that, give up your freedom - spend some time in jail
you want me to pay for your military spending but we should all revolt against taxes and live in crummy communities - no thanks

to Ghetto resident - I doubt you live in the Ghetto, but even if you do - your opinions are very indicative of the GOP and the great emphasis you place on individualism - I am happy you work and provide for your family - I do too - everyone should - however there are many who are working multiple jobs and still cannot make it - wake up to the reality that folks on welfare aren't bums and lazy - ignorant comments like that really don't warrant a response but please show some compassion for others - isn't the GOP supposed to be the new compassionate conservative party? true colors are showing my friends...

thank goodness McNerney did not get involved with this...he knows better


Posted by john, a resident of Donlon Elementary School
on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:06 am

interesting point 'continue to laugh' - me too - but maybe not the same thing. Your comment "crummy nieghborhood" interesting. Can you give me some names of crummy nieghborhoods and then please tell me what makes them crummy?
Another pt., why do you think that there is any reponsibility with protesting? Where did that come from?
Going to guess that you're somewhere 14-18 yrs?


Posted by ccc, a resident of Jensen Tract
on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:16 am

I thought this was a ridiculous showing and dangerous at that. Get a life people!!!


Posted by continue to laugh, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:17 am

why would you try and guess my age John? some type of veiled inference?
civic participation including protesting is an act and as such requires some responsibility on the part of those participating unless you believe in the "people as sheep" analogy
"crummy neighborhoods" are those very communities whereby taxes are low and public spaces are minimal - i.e. not Pleasanton
I won't reveal my age here 'cause it's none of you business John - but you are way off...which concerns me in a much broader way about your intuitions and intentions
let's keep on point though, pay the taxes equal to the services we want and demand - or are you so filthy rich you don't need any public services? what about police and fire protection?


Posted by Ghetto Resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:30 am

*Continue To Laugh -

Apprently you did not read all of my post - did you miss this?

"I understand that there are certain circumstances when people need a hand to get back on their feet, but lifers on welfare have got to STOP!"

I pay my fair share in taxes and then some, just wrote two nice checks to the State & Fed's and throwing the "ignorant" card out is really getting old. I stated it was "my opinion" - so back off homey!


Posted by continue to laugh, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:54 am

Ghetto defendant:

"lifers on welfare" what is that exactly - a blissfully ignorant piece of nonsense cooked up by Fox news?

thanks for qualifying your statements - I didn't miss it and at the same time did not feel it allows you to step out of your true intentions

what are your thoughts on corporate welfare - or are you just concerned with the lazy bums?

I am not your homey - please don't offend...

and thanks for paying your taxes yesterday - as you SHOULD


Posted by Always a Democrat, a resident of Bridle Creek
on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:56 am

I am also a lifelong "liberal" democrat who stopped in at the TEA party yesterday. There were thousands and not hundreds definitely-and despite some of the outrageously silly signs "Obama is taking away our civil liberties," (where was she when GW was illegally wiretapping U.S. citizens????) people were extremely respectful and well behaved.
I went out of curiosity after seeing all the folks waving signs on Santa Rita and ended up staying to speak to a number of folks. They are angry yes, but displaying it in a pretty rational way I think. It's hard to remember sometimes but freedom of speech extends both ways.

Perhaps if some of the left leaning bloggers posting here would have made an effort to protest some of GW's first term gaffes we would have been spared the second and more spectacularly awful term.
Food for thought......

Lastly, the article mentions a "A booth with petitions against Pleasanton school parcel tax Measure G and other area initiatives..."

I did see a sign against measure G (in the photos above) under a blue canopy, and a stack of small handouts with a similar message and a website on a table, but I did NOT see any petition against G, nor was I asked to sign one. The PW seems to have gotten that part wrong.


Posted by Kiko, a resident of Val Vista
on Apr 16, 2009 at 12:35 pm

continue to laugh

Man are you stupid.


Posted by continue to laugh, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 12:48 pm

Kiko

as you are now officially the arbiter of all things stupid I thank you for your insightful comments.

back to the issue at hand....same folks protesting tax hikes won't protest corporate welfare...make no sense

oh, but of course it doesn't, as Kiko has pointed out, I'm just stupid


Posted by Ghetto Resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 12:55 pm

*Continue to Laugh*

Wow - "my true intentions", you would know nothing of that, and if you really believe there are not individuals out there who have made welfare a life long benefit, you are sadly mistaken.

If it makes you sleep better at night to make me out to be the bad guy or someone that is politically incorrect because I do not want to continue to support those that do not work, then that is your issue.

I pay taxes with every dollar I make and spend, so to write out an additional check to both Fed and State is getting old. I do know that these times are hard, and those that have paid into the system should use it to get back on their feet, but California has supported too many individuals that need to get off the pot!!!

I do not agree with the bail outs for corporate America either as you suggest!!! I should not pay for mistakes made by mortgage companies who loaned money to those that could not pay it back, and those that took the loans should have to pay for their mistakes as well. When purchasing our home we decided to stick to the 30 yr fixed rate at 5% and not fall into the 1% for 5 years tricks, so there were no suprises - it's called responsibility. Tell me "continue to laugh" who pressured Freddie and Fannie to loosen the qualifactions so that "low income" families could afford to buy homes? Once they loosened the qualifications they bought homes they could not afford!!!! Now, I pay for those mistakes with increased taxes and property values declining because homes have gone into foreclosure.

I don't agree with the bail outs of the Big 3 auto makers either, even though I drive cars from those manufacturers...so I guess the errors in judgement are being paid for by all - doesn't mean I have to like it, does not mean I am ignorant, and does not mean that I should not speak out against it. Because you disagree with my thoughts, you call me ignorant? ***SNORE***

My family works hard, we make our mortgage payments, car payments and are able to purchase food and clothes, and struggle to do the extra's like pay for college (no we are not applying for student loans), so get off your horse and don't assume that because I feel the way I do I watch FOX NEWS or am IGNORANT. I AM TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

Enough time spent on this subject and you!


Posted by Juan Navarro, a resident of Del Prado
on Apr 16, 2009 at 12:59 pm

I attended some of the Tea Party and I can assure you it was attended by Democrats, Republicans and independents. It was in no way an anti-Obama rally, and it was not a Fox News event. Fox News chose to cover these events objectively, whereas NBC and CNN were rather glaring in their bias in labeling them as right-wing extremist events.

Should Californians not be concerned with the fact that we have the highest state taxes in the U. S. and we are in the bottom three in per-pupil spending on education, as well as transportation and infrastructure. Should we not be concerned that California is bankrupt in principle,months away from bankrupt in fact, and the only solution the legislature can come up with is more taxes to support the bloated state government and the welfare state?

I am amazed by some of the comments in this discussion thread, particularly by those that are clearly irrational left-wing loons.

To those who persist in labeling these events as "tea bag parties" rather than "tea parties", please avail yourself of opportunities to get "tea bagged" -- frequently!


Posted by John Adams, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:00 pm

Of course there was a "sea of white." It's the east bay! However, I met some very nice and very intelligent young African American men expressing their opposition to Obama's policies and giving away copies of a documentary entitled "The Obama Deception." They weren't rich, and they weren't Republicans. There were also Latinos, Native Americans and Asians in attendance. Abram Wilson was a featured speaker. Democrats don't have a lock on ethnic diversity.

Some of my liberal friends felt a tad intimidated, but even they survived the event unscathed.


Posted by Joe, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:13 pm

Sorry continue to laugh, but you might just be stupid if you make statements saying that "the navy doesn't protect my freedom-sorry man". Now I'm the one laughing at you.
The good thing about your posts is that they'll probably be gone during the day when spring break is over.
I'm still lauging, I have to go clean my glasses.


Posted by continue to laugh, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:14 pm

Ghetto guy: thanks for checking out - you have made your points ad nauseam...I don't need to point out ignorance it points its self out very clearly - you are too wrapped up into what others are doing or in your view "not doing" so you get all in a huff about taxes or whatever else you perceive as a "wrong to you"...now you blame low income folks for the mortgage meltdown - twisting my words - very sad..corporate welfare is the welfare that the Bushies, Clintons and the rest of the politicians have endorsed as they are all hoodwinked into giving more incentives and "free passes" to the corporate honchos of America - thank goodness Obama has come along to save us from this travesty...

keep up what you are doing - all the personal responsibility arguments you make are the right things to do for you and me as well - but stop focusing on what others are supposedly not doing - how do you know? what makes you an authority on the subject? give us all a break and pay the taxes...you use the services and until you don't you don't have much of an argument no matter how much vile you spit at me personally...


Posted by continue to laugh, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:17 pm

Hi Joe - thanks for writing to me personally, would you like my personal e-mail friend? I'm not on spring break so we can chat any time you want - you must be shirking your work duties...
and stupid is subjective so let loose with your subjectivity
the Navy doesn't protect me - that's my viewpoint - live with it and don't judge unless you are prepared to be judged yourself
do you want to discuss the tax story here or just hang out with me for awhile?


Posted by Joe, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:34 pm

I'm still laughing, I can't stop. You gotta get a writing gig, TV needs you.


Posted by continue to laugh, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:46 pm

just here to make folks laugh Joe that's my role
and for the rest of you who have loved to hate upon me - my only real intent - originally - was to point out some hypocrisies from this type of protest (although none of you will have any of that!) - you know things like doesn't anyone work anymore - how do you all hang out in a public park and protest during the afternoon? - I could write the long list here - but folks want to write me off as stupid, a child - lots of ageists here, even boring!
so as not to run the risk of further infuriating my fellow citizenry I am checking out...hooray you all cheer!
meanwhile the world still revolves, taxes are good, socialism even better, corporate America wasteful and far too powerful, ignorance aplenty, wars troubling and military spending way out of touch with real priorities like funding our schools (hey, then you wouldn't have to do it!) ... etc etc.
keep living in your insular world that is Pleasanton...

and remember to keep hating....you know the voice of dissent, that of the youth, low income, immigrants, LGBT folks, etc. etc.

you are ALL right and we are ALL wrong...long live dissension - that's what the Navy protect, our right to vehemently disagree with one another! yahoo....


Posted by DoneandDone, a resident of Danville
on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:51 pm

This thread has been one of the funnier ones that I've read on Forum,kids having fun with adults and adults having fun with kids and a few brave souls trying to post serious comments. But like all good things this has come to an end, its time to move on because there are more things to ridicule in the Tri-Valley.


Posted by john, a resident of Donlon Elementary School
on Apr 16, 2009 at 3:21 pm

you misunderstand 'continue to laugh' Its because your views and definitions are black and white (very narrow)
You have accidently fallen into the very catagories you placed others.
Thinking usually attributed to youth. Your definitions are
a bit odd as well - assumed because you haven't gotten around much.
No big deal- :~)


Posted by markymark, a resident of Del Prado
on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:25 pm

continue to laugh,

It's time to take a deep breath... maybe go outside and get away from the PW Online for a while. It'll be okay and might even lower your blood pressure a bit.


Posted by sadly away, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:36 pm

sadly, we were NOT in town for the big bruhaha - I would have loved to attend with all 3 of my totally INDEPENDENT children and husband. We decided to vote the issue and NOT the party.
It sounds like it all went well and was enjoyed by both parties. Such a shame that Mr McNerney wouldn't show up and speak to the people that elected him.

Sure wish I could have attended but was out of town....... it would have added 5 more to the party


Posted by Long-Time P-Towner, a resident of Birdland
on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:43 pm

The Tri-Valley used to be such a nice place. The left-wing kooks from the rest of the Bay Area are infiltrating us. One of them is now the Pleasanton Mayor. The welfare-for-everybody California Legislature has carved Pleasanton up so it gets no voice. Pelosi's puppy is our Congressman. Socialism spreads like a cancer, democracy eventually falls, and liberty is lost. Its very, very sad indeed. I grieve for my children and grand-children.


Posted by What?, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:59 pm

Pleasanton has a mayor? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:06 pm

Hmmmmmmm...I've always thought of the mayor as a very moderate republican! left-wing, WOW...she's even taken a wild bird hostage!


Posted by Get out of the wagon and pull your weight, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:16 pm

All the people who attended the rally yesterday were looking to take part in a process and get things back on track. How pathetic that people are so uneducated to make negative comments about them. It is just like when the inner city community tells their own kids that try to better themselves through education to stop "acting white". How truly sad they are and you are if you criticize anyone for their actions yesterday. If it wasn't for a bunch of "middle age white guys" named,John Adams Samuel Adams Josiah Bartlett Carter Braxton Charles Carroll Samuel Chase Abraham Clark George Clymer William Ellery William Floyd Benjamin Franklin Elbridge Gerry Button Gwinnett
Lyman Hall John Hancock Benjamin Harrison John Hart Joseph Hewes Thomas Heyward, Jr. William Hooper Stephen Hopkins Francis Hopkinson
Samuel Huntington Thomas Jefferson Francis Lightfoot Lee Richard Henry Lee Francis Lewis Philip Livingston Thomas Lynch, Jr. Thomas McKean Arthur Middleton Lewis Morris Robert Morris John Morton
Thomas Nelson, Jr. William Paca Robert Treat Paine John Penn George Read Caesar Rodney George Ross Benjamin Rush Edward Rutledge Roger Sherman James Smith Richard Stockton Thomas Stone George Taylor
Matthew Thornton George Walton William Whipple William Williams
James Wilson John Witherspoon Oliver Wolcott George Wythe Charles Thomson,
we wouldn't have a Constitution. My heritage created this nation. How sad that a group of people are characterized as "a group of white Republicans" as if that is a bad thing. Republicans freed the slaves. Republicans have done wrong, too. How about just stopping the insults and see that a group of Americans were in the heart of Pleasanton fighting for what is right! Get over the racial comments and the demeaning of one another and embrace the culture we are now and help hold on to what has made us great.

The progressives will soon learn when they all get in the wagon and expect the rest of us to pull it uphill, eventually there will be fewer outside of the wagon than in it and those of us pulling it will let go. Good luck with your world view...you will need it then. I'll be sipping my tea.


Posted by WOW, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:19 pm

I once went on an annoyed rant about Al Gore in front a family member that shocked her. After a short delay from her shock, her only follow-up to my comment was, "Wow."

I watched the news during these last 24 hours and well to quote my family, "Wow."

Barack Obama and Janet Napolitano and their "progressive" friends think that you are a "right-wing extremist" if you are a veteran of the Iraq war, are against abortion, or are otherwise in opposition to "a single issue" of this Administration.

Well, fortunately most of the Conservatives I know won't fall under that description because we are at odds with ALL THE POLICIES OF THIS ADMINISTRATION!!!
So listen up, you right-wing thugs out there, Obama and his pals think you are dangerous and that the tax protests you and your friends participated in yesterday are part of an act of revolution!

Hmm. I'm having difficulty with this concept. See, I actually didn't see any reports on said revolutionary violence on my evening news last night. In fact, I only saw about a 15 second blip of coverage of maybe two state events (I'm guessing because there were only two photos). Nevermind coverage of the largest protests of thousands and thousands that actually took place around California and the nation since. Apparently, the protests were not newsworthy enough for the evening news is what I now understand. I mean they had important stories at 5 and 6. I decided to stay up for the later news.

The "coverage" that I saw at 10 PM and 11PM as I scanned five local news channels actually only depicted a handful of these "evil" protestors. They all had the gall to actually dress in red, white, and blue and smile and wave with their children on a couple of street corners! The media never actually showed the thousands of demonstrations I saw earlier in the day on Fox News, all peacefully assembled with signs that said, "Fair Taxes", "Keep the change", and other humorous signs with messages that while obviously in disagreement with Mr. Obama's policies, were still respectful. I was certain the media would show these evil protestors soon...

Nope. Instead, I saw local and national "reporters" (I use that term loosely since all their reporting was peppered with opinions) demean and belittle the protests of hard-working Americans, coming from all political backgrounds, who dared to disagree with this Administration's policies and attended a tax day demonstration. The local news media decided to grant limited coverage of this important event with much the same fairness as the slight of hand and attitude of Marie Antionette, "If I must. Here then is a moment of coverage of your "event". Now, back to what we think is important!"

The document from the Department of Homeland Security was released by a law enforement officer that felt we ought to read just what the Administration thinks of us, and states "Right Wing Extremists" are at risk for creating potential terrorist threats to the nation. If there was so much subversive behavior in those 'right wing extremists' - the very ones responsible for yesterday's protests, and as feared by Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, then I wanted to see some examples from a media sampling of Wednesday's events. Surely this is where it would happen! I was told by my local news outlets that this was a promotion of the RNC and so this must be true and an accurate example of these lunatics that want to take over our country. I even waited on pins and needles to hear about the violent outcries across the country that were predicted by Ms. Napolitano's department. Surely I would see those EVIL Right Wing punks that were high jacking my political stance!!

I saw nothing in last night's mainstream media's so-called coverage. But, I wasn't deterred when instead of terror threats cleverly disguised as a "tea party" I saw ever-more important coverage of the lines at the Post Office of tax filers that are actually down 65% because of electronic filing, and the new Yankee Stadium set to open. No, I knew in spite of those more news-worthy stories, I would at least hear something from these credible news sources to confirm DHS theories. I even went so far as to watch "The View" at long last this morning knowing I would hear something from 3.5 liberals. It was like going Easter egg hunting Monday morning...nothing was there.

If "neo-cons" (oooh, good scary name to call us by you uber clever Liberals!!) are such a violent breeding group, I assume the coverage would have been similar to what typically happens in a bastion of the DNC like Philadelphia, PA and their "protests" (read: riot) over much more critical cultural issues like, "who cares if we actually won the chamionship game and were victorious, let's erupt into violence and destroy our own city!!" Just imagine how that community would react over an actual issue of freedom - you know like changing the fundamentals of our ecomony and culture by pushing a collectivist agend. But, I forgot, that they can have proven themselves trustworthy...er...what?

No, we are the concern of the Obama Administration and require federal surveilance because some of "us" served our nation in our military defending freedom. I see. No, wait...I'm confused again...that annoying logic thing keeps surfacing as I process this information. Wow.

Over the very last eight years I saw much more coverage of riots created by "left-wingers" (may I please refer to them as left-wing extremist nuts or is that in poor taste as a Conservative? I forgot I am one of "those" Christians that Liberals inform me I can't call others names...please forgive me). I cannot believe I didn't see any of the Tea Parties covered for more than a quick,"Oh, yes, this just in by the way, a "protest" (air quotes intended) was held about taxes today, but these uniformed people don't know their state is getting billions!! Moving on to weather...". I guess violence sells and we don't understand how to get attention from the mainstream media like when the Animal Rights activists engage in brutality, or the rock throwers of anti-WTO protests destroy personal property, or ACORN and union demonstrators "demonstrate", or like the Envro Nazis that have engaged in actual terrorism all across the country, even in our own fair Pleasanton in the Hacienda Business Park. Well, I never saw many children, Thomas Jefferson, Betsy Ross or Lady Liberty look-alikes, or the smiling families at those events, and they get news coverage. Well, regardless of my naivate, and lack of understanding of what the REAL professionals deem news-worthy, the Obama administration believes WE are the threat to our national security.

I'm not sure I understand the threat we present when at one of the largest Tea Parties yesterday, specifically the one at the site of the historical landmark The Alamo, not one protestor even disturbed the grass at the monument, but then again, we the evil people with concealed weapons licenses, that incidentally are more likely to be injured during fire-arm practice than actually harm another human being, should always be feared. I mean, we could "snap" at any time and have a loaded gun!! And the bullet fired into someone entering our home to harm our family could hurt someone!

No, we Christian, conservative, pro-child, pro-family, pro-country, pro-Constitution, that actually PAID taxes yesterday for ourself, oh, and for our favorite liberal, were more likely to have taken a paid day off from work (read: JOB) in order to participate in a peaceful assembly yesterday are a threat. Well we are the ONES, the subversive law-abiding, scrary history-reading, curiously respectful to our cities, and disarmingly honest ones raising children with values, yes, that need to be feared!

Apparently, profiling one another by past violent behavior is wrong (you know the silly stuff like actual conviction of terrorism or association in a known terroist group...yada, yada, yada...whatevuh...latte please). You see, the important thing is to profile one another by different political views - I mean the founding fathers didn't really mean endowed by our "Creator", the liberals tell us, so of course our founding fathers didn't mean freedom of speech for the average citizen either. No, that right is reserved for the media "reporters" to judge all of us that pay taxes - Now there is change to believe in!

WOW.



Posted by No thank you., a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:23 pm

Uh....yeah. Pardon us Democrats for skipping this "nonpartisan" event.


Posted by Yes Thank You, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:30 pm

Hey No thank you,
When you have something intelligent to say, feel free to revisit this forum.
XOXOX


Posted by Sorry you couldn't be there, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:34 pm

Dear No Thank You,

It is too bad you weren't there, you would have been in great company!
Everyone who is concerned about the direction this country is heading in was welcomed...everyone. One of the organizers is a Democrat. This was not a partisan event and you shouldn't be so dismissive of us that took the time to care.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:32 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

WOW,

Andreas San Diego is not an Enviro-Nazi. He's an animal rights extremist and a vegan. If caught, he'll be tried probably as a domestic terrorist due to changes in law since Sept. 11 and will be stripped of rights in due process that he's entitled to as a citizen. Just for comparison, San Diego didn't actually injure anyone while someone like Charles Manson and that whole creepy family kept their rights.


Posted by Against Measure G, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:34 pm

Does anyone know the website against Measure G (the parcel tax)? I realize not everyone is against it - so please be polite. Thanks.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:36 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Against,

Check out Web Link


Posted by WOW, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:37 pm

Stacey,
I think that was my point in citing the Animal Rights activists just earlier in my sentence. Thanks for checking though. :)


Posted by Against Measure G, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:38 pm

Thanks, Stacey. That is what I was looking for.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:40 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

WOW,

No checking needed. I knew Andreas personally. He was a co-worker. No, I have no idea as to his whereabouts.


Posted by Wow, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:53 pm

Stacey,
I read your comments often (as the registered user) and always enjoy your humor and honesty...I wouldn't have asked if you knew where Mr. San Diego was anyway - It's always good to have friends who will help you "bury the body", well, so to speak. There are civil injustices everywhere with the most egregious being those that are made in an effort to correct another. I'll pray for your friend – at least he committed his "crime" during early hours when no one would get hurt. I can't say that for others that want to criminally make a point…
You are a good friend to Andreas


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:57 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Wow,

I was never a friend of his. I was a co-worker.


Posted by Pat, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:09 pm

I was delight to see so many individuals who understand what we are facing today. We have in the white house a far left of center group of people determined to change America in a way most of us who voted never intended.

We wanted a change from the Bush- Paulson bailout - Instead we got much much more of the same. McCain would not have been a lot better - but we wanted Obama to be what he said he would be - a uniter and a person who would control the budget and stop the "earmarks". Unfortunately - he lied to those who voted for him. Most of us had no idea he would continue the Bush bailout of the rich with money going to special interest groups we did not support like ACORN and other political action groups not representing the majority of Americans who need jobs and the small businesses that produce jobs.


Posted by Jenny, a resident of Foothill High School
on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:03 am

Um, I'm an eighteen year old senior, who is both black and white. I was also at the Tea Party. Believe me, some people my age, and younger, and angry as we've ever been.

My parents can hardly pay for my college now. I already can't go to my first college of choice because of all this. I just paid about $3-$4 extra dollars for a video game. Oh, and my socialist teachers are telling me that I can't talk about God because it's offensive.

I have lost all enthusiasm about going into the "real world." I'm sick of this administration, and of people near my age voting for it. I'm also sick of seeing some of the most hard-working people pay an unspeakable amount of money for taxes, and then seeing my lazy teachers, who just put on a movie and call it "teaching", benefit from it.

I've gotten a part-time job at minimum wage, by some miracle, just because I doubt that I'll be able to get a good job, even after college. And, even if I do, why even try to make a lot of money? It'll just be taken away to pay for everyone's houses and abortions.

Anyway, feel free to blast me. :) In the end, I have thousands upon thousands who feel the same way.


Posted by Larry, a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:08 am

There were not even close to 2,000 people there, certainly not at any one time. I live 2 blocks from AVCP, and there were never more than 250 people there during the several times I wandered over (I have a photo that encompasses just about the entire crowd during one of the peak times, which I printed out and counted heads on: 219, including a generous count for those obscured by signage and other people.) Same signs throughout the day, and no major traffic flows, so it's not like we were seeing a big changeover in the attendees over time.

I know what the park and surrounding streets look like when there are "thousands" of people there (swim meet, anyone?) and this was not it. The crowd fit handily in the area behind the Gingerbread building.


Posted by Cali, a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Apr 17, 2009 at 9:45 am

The protest was awesome... I was very impressed with not only the people that turned up but the support from the passing cars...

I am a registered independent and this group was not comprised of right wing nutcases as the media has suggested in fact in speaking with people there, MANY had voted for Obama not believing he would be the socialist that he is. They feel duped and they are SCARED.

I was very happy to see that all generations were represented; there were college kids, highschool kids, young adults, seniors, etc all gathered together to fight against the move towards huge government, socialism, and the bottom feeders in the whitehouse.


Posted by Justin, a resident of Avila
on Apr 17, 2009 at 9:49 am

The crowd was got huge around 4 pm...while the speakers were there everyone congregated down inside the park where the stage was, at other times people gathered on the street.

Not sure why people are trying to downplay the crowd, I guess they must be bitter or something because Barry the Manchild is a joke and they can't admit it.


Posted by Justin, a resident of Avila
on Apr 17, 2009 at 10:06 am

Someone who is too cowardly to tell his name said he saw a 'sea of white'.

You are a liar and a racist sir. I was there with 3 of my friends and we are all of asian decent. There were african americans, east indians and asians in the crowd. What we didn't see were slackers.


Posted by john, a resident of Donlon Elementary School
on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:07 pm

actually Justin, Janes comments before that even funnier.
Can't take these "kids" serious. Got to be a chain
yank. Too plain dumb to be otherwise.


Posted by Larry, a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 17, 2009 at 1:23 pm

Justin - don't know what you mean by "downplay the crowd"; I was just surprised by the pleasantonteaparty web site reporting the size of the crowd as "over 3,000" when photos on their site and KSFO show it couldn't be anywhere near that.

According to the timestamps on my camera, I was there at 1:15, 2:15, 4:50, and 5:30. I suppose it's possible 2,700 people snuck in and back out of the park between 2:15 and 4:50, but unlikely. At 2:15, there were about 150 people around the stage and about 50 on Santa Rita; about the same at 4:50. At 5:30, most people were around the stage, listening to Melson; I would guess around 200 or so.


Posted by Einstein, a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:48 pm

Einstein is a registered user.

Stopped by yesterday and it was nice to see people freely expressing their viewpoints regardless of their political affliation. Met with Democrats, Independents, and Republicans who were all concerned with the direction of the US and the level of debt being leveled on all taxpayers. Official police estimate was 3,500. My friend from Michigan watched on TV and said it was nice not to see cars being burned.


Posted by Sore Losers, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2009 at 4:55 pm

The point is the Tea Party in Pleasanton as well as all of those around the nation were a success!

I can't believe people want to downplay this.

My only additional observation/question is, why are the Obama supporters so upset? They got what they wanted and they should be thrilled that we are plumeting toward a nation of social programs. I mean, I get it, the government is so capable of handling all the programs they have already, why shouldn't we give them more!! You nay-sayers want to ruin this country and you are quickly getting your wish! I think you all should have your own rally and volunteer all of your paychecks to the government and have them provide for all of your needs, since you are incapable of taking care of yourself and the government can do such a better job in your opinion. Go Liberals!! Woo-hoo progressives!!

Thank you for ruining the country that my grandfathers, father, and cousin have all sacrificed for. Yay for you.


Posted by Einstein, a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:55 pm

Sore Loser,

The reason they are so upset is that 100 days into this thing Usama is already being protested and in their heart of hearts they know it is the wrong course otherwise why complain so loudly. I mean really! increasing the scale and scope of the war in Afganistan, tax doggers in cabinet, inappropriate touching of the queen, apologizing for the US, bowing to the Saudi king, being lectured by China on fiscal responsibility, offering $900,000,000 to Hamas to rebuild Gaza after Israel destroyed it, doing nothing other than "I'm telling!" to the UN after North Korea launches a missle over Japan, telling Mexico the drug problem and violence in mexico is our fault, now he is in Trinidad kissing up to Hugo and Fidel's little brother while they torture there own people.

At the end of the day we will be safe from terrorists because how could the terrorists do anymore damage to the US than its own President.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 18, 2009 at 10:34 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Dan wrote: "You can always count on Republicans to cheap out when it comes to schools, nothing new. "

Hey! Forgot to point out... It's the Democrat-controlled State Assembly that's "cheaping out" on education.


Posted by Sore Losers, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 18, 2009 at 11:47 pm

Einstein,

WELL STATED!

Honestly, I think there is enough blame to go around, but what I fail to understand is that a liberal's first comment to a conservative who is complaining about spending is, "Well, did you complain when W was President??" They act as though it wasn't ever wrong to spend the money. So they agree that President Bush did the right thing? No, they claim it was wrong. So, then, in what rabbit hole do they think that doing what GW did times 10 is better? HUH??? I am so lost how they think this works. They are working within a logic vaccum.

I have so had it with this snotty attitude that progressives choose to tell me how to live my life. I want "progressives" to start practicing what they preach...

1. Turn over your entire paycheck to the government since you think they should take care of everyone (no whining about your standard of living possibly going down...everyone should be equal...right?)

2. Take all the locks off of your doors and windows and allow anyone to enter (there should be no borders since no one is "illegal", right??). Oh, and you can't have a gun for protection, either!

3. Cancel your healthcare and sign up for Medicare.

4. Quit your job and join the Peace Corp or other public service that in your opinion is so under financed and let your job go to someone who wants to earn a living and keep their money.

5. Since there are not enough resources per student in the public school system, give each parent that wants it one half of the cost the public school spends per child. The district can keep the other half to put towards the kids that are left. You'll have more resources to put toward the kids that are left and the "crazy" other parents can take thier kids wherever they want with their half of the money.

6. Keep telling yourself that global warming, or since people are "onto" the lie and since it has been colder than usual we should now call it "global climate change" (to cover warming AND cooling...just in case!), exists and feel free to invest all of your money that is left into energy saving programs and don't second guess yourself when this weather pattern cycle repeats itself in 40 years.

7. Worship all the things that are created (people, trees, earth, whatever) and ignore the Creator and all he has done and continue to believe that YOU are in control of your life. Good luck with that.

Now, go ahead and implement all these things and enjoy your life. Looks SO GREAT when you finally see it on paper, doesn't it?!!

Anyway, it really doesn't matter, because everyone now knows that Obama was "more of the same" of the liberals in Congress with the 27% approval rating and they get it now. Anyone that voted for B.O. is now humbled and in EXACTLY 1295 days we get to vote again. It is just a bummer that we're going to go so far down in four years that it will take about 8 years to recover back to where we were in 2008. We should see improvements by approx 2015 thanks to responsible conservatives (notice I DID not say Republicans). Conservatives are to liberals like parents with money are to teenagers. The teenager is impulsive, narrow minded, lacks judgement and reasoning skills and make decisions that harm themselves and those around them and the parents have to come in and clean it up. Don't worry liberals, I paid my taxes on Wednesday so you and your family with no work ethic will continue to get your money.

Good luck with sleeping at night!




Posted by fact checker, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 19, 2009 at 8:28 am

The Democratically controlled legislature is being held hostage by the need for a 2/3rds majority to pass the budget. I think CA is only one of a hand full of states that require that.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 19, 2009 at 8:54 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Yes, that's true we're one of the few states requiring the 2/3rd majority, but how would switching to a simple majority change the way California funds (or doesn't fund) education? I'm not seeing a link.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 19, 2009 at 8:59 am

Stacey is a registered user.

With a 2/3rds requirement our State has not shown that it is able to control spending. A simple majority will only make that worse.


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