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Letter: Vote 'yes' on Prop. 8
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on Oct 4, 2008
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posted Friday, October 3, 2008, 12:00 AM
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Posted by PToWN94566
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on Oct 13, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Leave you kids alone- then home school them! What I find so hilarious is no one has yet answered my questions as to how marriage has been destroyed. And further more, I find it comical that no one has been able to read between the lines when people say "I support equal rights but not gay marriage." All fake.
AA- you should read up homosexuality and see that it was around before Christianity was ever formed. Plus MANY species of mammals engage in gay behavior, but I'm guessing you and others think we came from one man and one women. Also, way to be an adult and base your thoughts off a 3 year old who saw two women kissing on tv. Really now??? You honestly think your 3 year old comprehends complex relationship issues that adults take on? What are you all scared of? That gay people will get married and sneak in your house during the night and place the gay curse on your kids? And let me ask you this AA, do you believe we'll go to hell (we meaning gay or lesbian people)? And are you words suggesting you are a bigot? Since "It's normal for a man and woman to fall in love, get married and raise a family. It's not normal to do it any other way and instinctively we all know that to be true." Or are you saying that it's all in my head (Possibily a disease) and I can't possibily love another man the same way you love your husband because it's not what my instincts tell me? These are valid questions of mine because a lot of the words I've read on here basically tell me that I should not like myself for being gay, that it's wrong to be gay and goes against being a human, and that being gay destorys that family life.
Tolerance and respect for people of all kinds, of all colors, of all sexualities, of all genders,of all ethnicities etc should ALWAYS be taught in school. Some of the words I have read on here for people in support of Prop 8 passing, have underlying messages that suggests hatred and supports unequal rights- if that's the case then there will be another civil rights case at some point in my life, seeing that I am 27 and I have a feeling a good portion a of people on here a bit older. No one is asking you to partake in gay marriages so may be you should get over and realize that gay people at their wedding probably don't want you there.
Here are some interesting ideas taken from an article by Scott Bidstrup: Web Link
Marriage is an institution between one man and one woman. Well, that's the most often heard argument, one even codified in a recently passed U.S. federal law. Yet it is easily the weakest. Who says what marriage is and by whom it is to be defined? The married? The marriable? Isn't that kind of like allowing a banker to decide who is going to own the money in stored in his vaults? It seems to me that justice demands that if the straight community cannot show a compelling reason to deny the institution of marriage to gay people, it shouldn't be denied. And such simple, nebulous declarations, with no real moral argument behind them, are hardly compelling reasons. They're really more like an expression of prejudice than any kind of a real argument. The concept of not denying people their rights unless you can show a compelling reason to deny them is the very basis of the American ideal of human rights.
Same-sex couples aren't the optimum environment in which to raise children. That's an interesting one, in light of who society does allow to get married and bring children into their marriage. Check it out: murderers, convicted felons of all sorts, even known child molesters are all allowed to freely marry and procreate, and do so every day, with hardly a second thought, much less a protest, by these same critics. So if children are truly the priority here, why is this allowed? The fact is that many gay couples raise children, adopted and occasionally their own from failed attempts at heterosexual marriages. Lots and lots of scientific studies have shown that the outcomes of the children raised in the homes of gay and lesbian couples are just as good as those of straight couples. The differences have been shown again and again to be insignificant. Psychologists tell us that what makes the difference is the love and commitment of the parents, not their gender. The studies are very clear about that. And gay people are as capable of loving children as fully as anyone else.
Same-sex marriage would threaten the institution of marriage. Well, that one's contradictory right on the face of it. Threaten marriage? By allowing people to marry? That doesn't sound very logical to me. If you allow gay people to marry each other, you no longer encourage them to marry people to whom they feel little attraction, with whom they most often cannot relate adequately sexually, bringing innocent children into already critically stressed marriages. By allowing gay marriage, you would reduce the number of opposite-sex marriages that end up in the divorce courts. If it is the stability of the institution of heterosexual marriage that worries you, then consider that no one would require you or anyone else to participate in a gay marriage. You would still have freedom of choice, of choosing which kind of marriage to participate in -- something more than what you have now. And speaking of divorce -- to argue that the institution of marriage is worth preserving at the cost of requiring involuntary participants to remain in it is a better argument for reforming divorce laws than proscribing gay marriage.
Marriage is traditionally a heterosexual institution. This is morally the weakest argument. Slavery was also a traditional institution, based on traditions that went back to the very beginnings of human history - further back, even, than marriage as we know it. But by the 19th century, humanity had generally recognized the evils of that institution, and has since made a serious effort to abolish it. Why not recognize the truth -- that there is no moral ground on which to support the tradition of marriage as a strictly heterosexual institution, and remove the restriction?
VOTE NO ON PROP 8