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on Sep 5, 2008
The Stoneridge extension to El Charro is critical to off-loading the horrible traffic down Santa Rita that turns left on Valley and then left on Stanley. The traffic at this intersection backs up traffic not only on Santa Rita but also on Valley itself. It is a zoo for people to try to get out of the Safeway parking lot onto Valley.
Much traffic continues down Santa Rita to Stanley past Amador, and takes a left turn there to get eastbound toward Livermore. This adds to the traffic density in this central area of Pleasanton.
Central Pleasanton is increasingly grid-locked because there is nothing to off-load the inevitable cross-valley traffic. The head-in-the-sand approach has been to believe more such traffic won't happen if we erect obstacles to it. But this has not happened. Cross-valley traffic continues to increase, and it cuts through Pleasanton. That's a fact, and the fact won't go away anytime soon.
Instead of loading central Pleasanton with this traffic and continuing to impact a very large number of Pleasanton residents, why not simply extend that sound-walled, divided thoroughfare that the developers were required to build, and we the taxpayers maintain, called Stoneridge Drive. Off load this traffic to a road built for it. Why does such an expensive road exist to service only residences?
This segment of Stoneridge has only limited ingress/egress for residential neighborhoods mostly. The road is not the equivalent of Santa Rita Road and Valley Road. These have commercial as well as residential ingresses/egresses. And there are many. The Stoneridge neighborhoods have other access routes into and out of their neighborhoods if Stoneridge were to get inconvenient during commute hours.
Extending Stoneridge would not be a disproportionate action. Leaving this road blocked off is.
I heard that Mayor Jennifer Hosterman did accept Supervisor Haggerty's offer and the City and County are in negotiations. Nothing happens overnight, especially in Pleasanton.
I'm a bit skeptical of that claim considering that Hosterman has been adamant about the extension being done after other regional improvements are complete (SR84 and I580 work). Do you have any suggestions for how someone else can verify that?
I heard that Mayor Jennifer Hostermann.....
This is called hearsay, but it's election time afterall. Who's to prove that JoeVoter is not an operative of the opposition using this post to spread rumors by hearsay?
Regarding what Hoseterman said in response to Haggerty's offer to pay the cost of extending Stoneridge, as reported in The Independent, she said that Haggerty could give the money to Pleasanton now, the city could put it in a fund to earn interest so that it can be used sometime in the future. Come on. Haggerty isn't stupid. Why would he give the city millions of dollars just to sit in an account for years? What's needed is a project timeline now to get Stoneridge extended along with the STaples Ranch project. How is anyone in Pleasanton going to get to the ice rinks and other retail services? Only choice is to jump onto the overcrowded 580. Yea right!
Pleasanton needs to accept the offer from Scott Haggerty as soon as possible and get this project started. The longer we wait to start these projects the more expensive the get. With additional options for commuters it can only benefit everyone involved. I understand that this will just scratch the surface on our congested roadways but if we do not act we will only be falling behind. This project along with improvements to SR84 and I580 will also help alleviate gridlock. In addition to these improvements the extension of El Charro to Stanley Blvd. would create more routes for people to choose and improve the flow of traffic. It is going to take a collaborative effort between local and state official to obtain the funds needed for such infrastructure improvements.
After JoeVoter wrote, I actually verified his claim by talking to Hosterman directly. She told me she sent an addendum to the Staples Ranch MOU to the county. In it, Pleasanton accepts the money to put into an interest bearing account with an expiration date of 2015, at which time, if the money isn't used, it would revert back to the County. Actually this is quite good. Pleasanton needs to take advantage of this! This extension benefits not only Pleasanton, but also addresses regional traffic issues. With this offer from the County, Pleasanton doesn't have to bear the full cost of making a regional traffic improvement.
Ruth, the idea that Pleasanton residents would need to jump on the freeway to get to another part of Pleasanton always bothered me too! If the extension is not built in a timely manner, you can be sure going around on the freeway will get old really quickly with the majority of residents.
There is no way the county is going to give Pleasanton the money to put into the bank for 7 to 8 years. Haggerty offered the money to get the extension built NOW!
Hosterman's suggestion of taking a check and holding it is essentially what happened with the Vineyard Ave school. Signature was ready to build it and the school board wanted to wait until it was ready.
I've heard every excuse in the book as to why we can't or shouldn't build the Stoneridge extension now. This CAN happen if all of the politics are put aside and we wave the normal exhautively slow approval process.
The city is foolish if it dosen't act and act now on Haggerty's offer as it was stated.
Yes, Pleasanton needs to build SDE sooner rather than later, and unless the council commits to doing that - in writing - with a start date, Haggerty will not give the money. The offer was made as a way to get the council off the dime and get started. With his offer, Hosterman can no longer use the old worn-out argument that there is not enough money to pay for it.
Another problem is both mayoral candidates Hosterman and Brozosky stated at the first community debate held a few weeks ago at the senior apartment complex, that neither are in favor of putting SDE through until all other regional improvements are made - and goodness knows when that will be, considering that the Pidgeon Pass expansion of Highway 84 will be fought by the Sierra Club and Ruby Hill residents, that Dublin will not extend Dublin Blvd unless Pleasanton extends Stoneridge - and on and on it goes. As far as council member candidates go, both Sullivan and McGovern are in agreement with Hosterman on SDE: sit and wait. Candidate Howard Neely is so far the only newcomer that I've read to have said that SDE needs to be built now. I haven't heard Pentin's position yet.
SDE has been in the city's plans since 1989 (Stoneridge Drive Specific Plan)and its completion was critical to the development and growth of Hacienda Business Park. Hundreds of Livermore residents who work in Hacienda get to the park every work day via Stanley/Valley/Santa Rita which has led to 2,000 cars per hour during peak am commute periods, (documented by city traffic engineer) causing congestion and safety hazards to school children trying to get to Alisal Elementary, Harvest Park Middle School and Amador Valley High. Parents are afraid to let their kids walk to these schools because of the traffic hazards, and so instead, drive kids to school, adding even more cars to the area.
The council needs to take Haggerty's offer now, get started on the construction of SDE while the Stoneridge East road end from El Charro is being constructed for Staples, and give the majority of residents relief from congestion and improved pedestrian safety. They should not succumb to the pressure imposed by a limited number of residents in the east Stoneridge neighborhood who knew very well when their neighborhood went in in mid '90s that Stoneridge was planned to go through. It may take a full council "regime change" to make SDE happen.
I was under the impression that the Pigeon Pass improvement the Council majority wants to tie to the Stoneridge Drive extension is the one currently being done (ahead of schedule too).
We desperately need the city and the council to layout a gameplan with our neighboring cities so that SDE is built in a way that is a win win for us (while supporting regional plans also) We desperatley need SDE and need it soon, but we need to connect it with Jack London to get maximum benefit so pleasanton residents can drive to livermore and livermore residents can commute to Hacienda bsuiness center. We also should get written commitment/gameplan from regional partners about when Dublin Blvd and other key roadways are built.
In the interim, once we have the emergency connection, let's open SDE up at a minimum for public transit going from Pleasanton to Livermore/beyond and workers commuting to Hacienda. This is a 100% win win. This would take them off other innner city streets, shorten everyone's commute that is stuck trying to get thru Valley Santa Rita/Valley Stanley area and reduce pollution as it may save about 3-5 miles for mnay of these commuters.
Stoneridge is a critical roadway for our local residents and workers and we need access sooner rather than later. I am hopeful our Council and city staff will develop a thoughtful gameplan that opens this up fully to help many within the city by 2010-2011.
Unfortunately, there will be some of the "wrong" people who use it as well (as is done with our roads today)but i am confident we can get creative, and limit the wrong traffic while benefiting the majority of us who need help. Solutions such as traffic metering onto the freeway, creative turn options during commute hours, light metering/speed bumps to slow down traffic/reduce noise in local area, etc. all all potntial ideas.
Please let's get creative and focus on how we can help the majority of the "right people" who this will benefit from SDE vs. saying nothing can be done as there might be some of the "wrong people using the road. Lets focus on what we can do together to create a win win solutions if we try.
it will not be easy but i am confident with leadership we can do it.
Livermore residents AND Pleasanton residents from Ruby Hills would benefit from the Jack London - Stoneridge connection.
Take the offer
Build the Stoneridge estension.
Relieve traffic on Santa Rita/Valley/Stanley
Reap the tax windfall from the Automall and Ice Rink.
Will Stoneridge be re-named I-580jr. or I-580 Bypass??
come 6p, click on this link and then dust off your common sense
(or get a job and take the drive)
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